Brimir Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 - A few Market weapons are being retired: Gorgon, Dual Ether Daggers, Boar, and Machete. You have 7 days to get them before they go into the retirement! From the patch notches. Of all weapon on that list, only the Gorgon is somewhat viable(though Soma...). The rest are sub-par and even broken in the case of the Machete. Dual Ether Daggers are a lot worse than Dual Ether and Boar is fun but impotent. Why not just fix these rather than tuck them away into oblivion? Also; why the Gorgon? Such a recognizable and iconic weapon (TEH Grineer weapon)... Anyone agree with me? Disagree? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KriLL3 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I got mixed feelings, imo WF already has too many weapons (I'm not against adding more interesting/unique ones) and a lot of them are too samy, the Gorgon is the only weapon in that selection that is interesting I agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cabadath5 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Is there actually any official statement regarding as to why they are being retired or if we are going to see them ever again? Because if their plan is to just delete every "old" weapon instead of making it viable then.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silraed Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 (edited) The only reason I have been able to come up with for removing them is that they may do what they did with the Snipetron. Remove them from the game and then re-add them as clan weapons with stats that are more competitive with the newer weapons. Saying that, I don't like that they are being removed. Even if they are intending on revamping them as clan weapons. Edited October 10, 2013 by Silraed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Draxxon Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 This is exactly the kind of thing Scott needs to be posting about in his new blog section. We need transparency on stuff like this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AscendantWyvern Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I have the darkest feeling this will turn out like the Vulkar. Everything gets replaced with an even weaker weapon, and then when people suddenly want the old weapon back, we have an event for Gorgon Wraith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azour Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 (edited) Because they're lazy and running out of time thats why. Bad decisions they made are slowly starting to keep up with them and instead of trying to fix those decisions they are getting rid of them. They really need to sit down and have a good talk without jokes and such. This is getting seriously bad for the game. Edited October 10, 2013 by azour Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brimir Posted October 10, 2013 Author Share Posted October 10, 2013 I can sorta understand the reasoning behind the "crappy" weapons - nobody except new players would ever use those. But the freaking Gorgon? It is the most iconic weapon in the game! Looking back at the concept art livestream; each Grineer concept art that featured a little Grineer figure for scale made sure that said Grineer was carrying the Gorgon! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadAimbot Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 DE wants harder to get weapons to be better, so they removed some weapons that were too easy to get. It doesn't matter since those weapons were never going to be good. And it's not like they could just buff the weapons while making them more difficult to obtain, because then people would complain that their favorite weapons aren't good, and they'd have to make every weapon good. We can't have that, or else those hardcore players won't be satisfied they're better than everyone else because they have a stronger gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarlockk Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Why take away Gorgon!!! Better take away Grakata Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ketec Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 lol... so all this talk about "fixing and balancing" existign weapons... is basically removing them.Leaving less and less weapons to the market, more for plat and hard to reach rank requirements + heavy RNG and grind.They are pushing cash shop more and more. Getting greedy there i see.With all this hard to reach content, iv foudn myself play less and less - from 4-5h day to a roughly 1h/day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KriLL3 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Ketec: don't be absurd man, removing 3 mediocre weapons with way too many similar ones already in the pool and one interesting weapon from the game doesn't mean DE are trying to force us to buy platinum, none of the weapons require platinum to acquire and the only weapons you can only get for real money is the Skana Prime and Lato Prime with both are sub-par at best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dreamwalk3r Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I think Gorgon will be put into clantech, it's really very iconic. Boar is highly unlikely to dissapear too, seeing as we have Boar Prime now. Ethers and machete are low-tier and can probably dissapear forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignaesia Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I have a feeling they will become boss drops rather than outright retired Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatpig84 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 (edited) lol... so all this talk about "fixing and balancing" existign weapons... is basically removing them. Leaving less and less weapons to the market, more for plat and hard to reach rank requirements + heavy RNG and grind. They are pushing cash shop more and more. Getting greedy there i see. With all this hard to reach content, iv foudn myself play less and less - from 4-5h day to a roughly 1h/day. What are you smoking ? Soma rank 3 Gorgon rank 3 Dual Ether rank 0 Ether Daggers rank 0 For the Gorgon's case it is even more insulting that the Soma outperforms it by a good margin. Dual Ether is a straight win against Ether daggers. Edited October 10, 2013 by fatpig84 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froh Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I think. I may be wrong. That they're planning to remove them from the market, and then, add them to missions/factions rewards. So that new players can access it. This is especially strange since they're selling Desert Cameo for the Gorgon too. So a complete retirement from the game is weird. At least, let's hope new players can access them regularly with events. So they don't lose the ranking points, or the collector aspect of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ignaesia Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I think. I may be wrong. That they're planning to remove them from the market, and then, add them to missions/factions rewards. So that new players can access it. This is especially strange since they're selling Desert Cameo for the Gorgon too. So a complete retirement from the game is weird. At least, let's hope new players can access them regularly with events. So they don't lose the ranking points, or the collector aspect of the game. Boss drops would make sense. I can imagine Kril dropped the gorgon for instance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fatpig84 Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Boss drops would make sense. I can imagine Kril dropped the gorgon for instance The thing is, if they can kill Lech Kril, most of the time they are sporting something heftier and more powerful than the Gorgon, so that means it is again a "mastery xp" only weapon. Unless they get a serious buff, I don't see any use for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brimir Posted October 10, 2013 Author Share Posted October 10, 2013 I think. I may be wrong. That they're planning to remove them from the market, and then, add them to missions/factions rewards. So that new players can access it. This is especially strange since they're selling Desert Cameo for the Gorgon too. So a complete retirement from the game is weird. At least, let's hope new players can access them regularly with events. So they don't lose the ranking points, or the collector aspect of the game. Speaking of which, can't you get the Gorgon blueprint as login reward as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froh Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I don't really know. The thing is we can't really complain about gorgon not being powerful enough since the Armor 2.0 update isn't out yet. At this point only they can really begin to balance the various weapons/frames accordingly. Before that this is a huge waste of time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czarok Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I'm 90% sure they'll be added back somehow, because even though they're underpowered, that's a hefty chunk of mastery that will be unobtainable for new players. Regardless, I will be stocking up on bps is they actually do get completely removed, I'll have whatever I want from trading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arlayn Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 The patch notes state they are being retired? where is this topic that says retiring them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BadAimbot Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 (edited) The patch notes state they are being retired? where is this topic that says retiring them? The patch notes state they are being retired? where is this topic that says retiring them? Edited October 10, 2013 by BadAimbot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Froh Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Read them again :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wertron Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 With my past and current interest in the game, none of those weapons really interested me..Gorgon - Looks so ugly in my eyes.. those antennas at the muzzle? da fuq?Dual Ether Daggers - Looks great, but prefer Dual Ether (Swords).. Sad to see these Daggers go away.. IMO they just need some tweaks to make them appealing compared to Dual Ether (Swords).Boar - The other Shotguns is simply better and appeals to me more.. I don't really like a Shotgun being full auto.Machete - Never even considered making this weapon.. It's just so damn ugly (IMO) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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