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#21 fatpig84

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 01:23 PM

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If given the current rate of level 40 = old level 100

Level 59 enemies current = level 147

 

My ignis can actually work what is equaled to level 147 Grineer dudes in the old system.

This is a very good change. 

 

 

Prior to this, I don't even use my Ignis outside of corpus or light infested above old level 90s.


Edited by fatpig84, 26 November 2013 - 01:23 PM.


#22 honeybadger

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 01:29 PM

Synapse can't do red crits now, do you really tested it? It's useless now


Who the hek cares if my numbers are red? It obliterates Corpus.

#23 Archistopheles

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 01:41 PM

The new damage system is amazing. If you don't like it, you're just doing it wrong.

 

That may sound generalistic and condecending, but it's true. The system's complexity has added 3x more depth to the game.



#24 PsychedelicSnake

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 01:42 PM

Who the hek cares if my numbers are red? It obliterates Corpus.

This. Damage is damage. Who cares what colour it is?



#25 Laecerelius

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 01:59 PM

Who the hek cares if my numbers are red? It obliterates Corpus.

 

Slap a poison mod on it and now it obliterates Grineer with Corrosive damage and you can also put a fire mod on it to help with the light armored Grineer.  I might actually have to make a Synapse at some point now.



#26 CycloneKnight

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 02:18 PM

Synapse is one of the best guns... being able to get magnetic AND corrosive AND heat damage, all at once.

other than that:

http://warframe.wiki...ype_Multipliers

https://forums.warfr...-being-updated/

 

These should help you with your guns, top tier guns are more or less still top tier, just gotta mod them correctly.

 

Wait.  Magnetic, corrosive, AND heat?  How do you pull that one off?



#27 TunaMayo

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 02:34 PM

You are just not adjusting to the system.

Compliment your weapons appropriately to destroy certain factions.

Ogris - add more blast or add corrosive damage to destroy grineer. Easily modded with heat for infested or electric for cirpus as blast is fairly well rounded.

Synapse - make it corrosive to melt grineer, magnetic for corpus. It is not meant for infested.

Dual ichor - make it corrosive for grineer, viral for infested, it's less effective but gas can work against corpus.

Flux - add more slash damage and viral damage for infested.

Embolist - make it viral for infested, corrosive for grineer. It's average against corpus.

The acrid and torid could use some work as the DoT is a bit borked at the moment.

Also, to my knowledge the dual ichor never had a DoT.

Certain weapons are specialised towards certain factions at the moment. You can't make every gun in the game good against every faction.

Some weapons are good all round guns (braton prime) that you can mod for all three factions. But this gun will never be as effective as one built towards murdering one faction. This is something you have to come to terms with.

Also, no one cares if you are a master founder. You shouldn't flaunt that to try and make your point more valid. You supported this game fully aware that it is in beta and subject to radical change. I wonder how you would have reacted had you played before update 7.....

#28 KvotheTheArcane1

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 02:37 PM

Wait.  Magnetic, corrosive, AND heat?  How do you pull that one off

Oh, hm, just realised it muight not work, although it should, I think...

Anyways, order would be cold (should combo with the default nature for mag, I think), then electric, then poison, then fire. If it works as I think it does (not 100% sure) it should be all 3. Gonna go try it now.

 

edit: ah, guess I was mistaken, it doesn't work due to mods (more or less) overwriting the base damage (i.e. toxin, cold, fire, elec on synapse gives radiation and viral)


Edited by KvotheTheArcane1, 26 November 2013 - 02:40 PM.


#29 Karzak

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 02:37 PM

eh synapse, dual ichor and embolist are much better than before



#30 Relkin

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 02:44 PM

It actually enables the use of more weapons not less - don't make S#&$ up because 2 or 3 weapons you want to use exclusively can't lolcannon everything without even minimal modding effort on your part. 

 

Also, LOL at the boohoo no red crit crowd - you realize red crits weren't special right?  It was only a UI representation of crits that were aided by frame abilities/buffs.  

 

Anyways, nothing of merit in this thread so I'm out. 



#31 ElementLordofMilk

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 02:53 PM

Last I heard the Synapse was still great.

Damage 2.0 hasn't even been out for a week, we will find ways to make old favorites great again. At this point everyone is still trying to use their old setups, some of which still work, some of which don't. We just need to adapt, it's not ruined the game, it's just changed drastically and we haven't adapted to it yet.

#32 Cpl_Facehugger

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 03:01 PM

Damage 2.0 made elite weapons useless and frustrating to use


Only if you're not modding them intelligently. Acrid is still amazing. Soma is still amazing.

Yeah you can't just slap on AP mods and go to town, you actually have to give some thought as to what kinds of targets you're engaging. But that's a good thing, IMO. It encourages players to try different loadouts and builds.

I'm a vet with 600 hours under my belt. I've got my high end weapons like acrid, galatine, soma, etc. I love damage 2.0 overwhelmingly. Sure it has a couple of issues, but those are minor and can be tweaked away.

#33 Tr1ples1xer

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 03:12 PM

Synapse is one of the best guns... being able to get magnetic AND corrosive AND heat damage, all at once.

other than that:

http://warframe.wiki...ype_Multipliers

https://forums.warfr...-being-updated/

 

These should help you with your guns, top tier guns are more or less still top tier, just gotta mod them correctly.

How do you get magnetic and corrosive on the synapse, I tried but electric keep fusing and not giving corrosive.



#34 TheInfiniteDoom

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 03:15 PM

I believe this image is relevant:

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Just because you're a founder, doesn't mean you don't have to L2P. Damage 2.0 changed everything. Sorry that you can't just stick on Serration and go back to destroying everything. Well, not really. I lied. I'm not sorry. The whole point of this new system is to bring "low-tier" guns in line with the "end-game" guns. You're supposed to build a large arsenal of weapons, but it isn't one-size-fits-all anymore. Some guns are good against one enemy type, and bad against others. Early-game guns have more balanced, generalized damage, and the clantech/prime/high-mastery guns are specialized. You're supposed to build into a niche loadout over time. This gun for X, that gun for Y. Lecta for Corpus, Dual Ichor for Grineer.

I can't really be bothered beyond this point. Either you've got poor spending habits, dumping cash into a game that you're going to drop in a fit of impotent nerd rage, or you're a hypocrite and you'll be back in a week. It would be a shame to see you back around Design Council, really. What Design Council needs is helpful feedback and constructive criticism, not whiny Fairweather Tenno. If you'd completely up and quit because you don't want to adjust to the changes in each new update, then good riddance. That goes for you, and anyone/everyone who's posting these stupid "I'm gonna quit Warframe" threads. Go away quietly, for goodness' sake. We're not going to miss your type. We don't know who you are, we never did, and we don't care what you do.
 

These threads are useless in the first place, but what makes it worse is that you're trying to leverage Founders status as some sort of measure of importance.

"Ooh, I spent money on the gaaaaame, I'm speeeeeecial!"
No. You're not. If you quit, you quit. DE's got your money, and the community won't miss you.
Don't do this in another game forum. Let this be a humbling experience. Take a step back, think about it, and next time don't muck up the forums with your ridiculous tyrades. That goes for all of you, but especially Founders. Feedback is one thing, this is just nerd rage. Learn the difference before you post.



#35 Methanoid

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 03:17 PM

You know that 2.0 has just been released?

 ^ this

 

nerdraging over an introductory new system that has been quoted as being work in progress on a beta game is beyond insane.



#36 Arlayn

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 03:17 PM

Hey guess what remember how this game is still open beta... and I don't know... SUBJECT TO CHANGE... You threw your lot in with the rest of us. If you were not expecting violent change (especially after we told you about the whole Mod tree change several times) then you were not properly prepared for this game.

 

This game is Subject to change... it is in no way in its complete form. Who knows what else will happen, but you need to stop thinking things in this game will not change to achieve a special objective in the games functionality. You were warned when you made the account. You read the agreement, and policy... right? right......? RIGHT?

 

No of course you didn't... You never read the policy, or agreement you just skipped on through.


Edited by Arlayn, 26 November 2013 - 03:18 PM.


#37 KvotheTheArcane1

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 03:35 PM

How do you get magnetic and corrosive on the synapse, I tried but electric keep fusing and not giving corrosive.

Yeah, ignore that, I was wrong, I forgot mod order overwrites EVERYTHING (i.e putting poison, cold, fire, electric on gives radiation and gas)



#38 Backarr

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 03:46 PM

Why bother with all of this the game is even easier than before.



#39 Valkyrie9001

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 03:52 PM

the game actually requires brains and knowledge boo hoo

im gonna quit game isnt easy anymore

 

That's basically it.



#40 UltraFlyingTaco

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Posted 26 November 2013 - 04:19 PM

ogris is still blowing my enemies to smithereens, I don't know what you're talking about.