Vaskadar Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 I haven't heard anything about a Frost nerf at all. This is sorta out of the blue. And judging from Rebecca's post, looks like it's U12, which is tomorrow I've predicted that snow globe was getting a nerf a LOOONG time ago, ever since endless defense was introduced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poke007 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 (edited) I haven't heard anything about a Frost nerf at all. This is sorta out of the blue. And judging from Rebecca's post, looks like it's U12, which is tomorrow Not tomorrow its sometime today as its Update Wednesday hence people are so edgy about this change announcement. I'm so edgy to the point I forgot about that Blaze Alert just a while ago and missed it. >.> Edited February 5, 2014 by Poke007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seanjuju Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 So Snowglobe's working like Sanctuary now. Can't wait to play T3D now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nenjin Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 While these changes definitely make SG more balanced....I think players are going to be severely disappointed with its performance at higher levels, like they are with a lot of WF powers, because of how scaling works. Sort of how Nyx is great high level CC because her ability doesn't care about scaling at all....this amounts to a pretty big nerf to SG (on paper, at least.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaintLucifer Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 At least Trinty will become even more desired on DF now, since you will not be able to keep the pod alive without having one spamming 24/7 Energy Vampire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tsoe Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 (edited) Because we have actually played the game enough to know it's a bad change. Iron skin has health, see how long it lasts even on pluto. Now see how long it lasts on t3 defense. And again, they said the change was made so other frames would have a use on defenses but this doesn't affect other frames at all, it only makes frost one of the other frames. you are totaly wrong Frost allways changed the game-play like... hey guys it's getting hot out their , let's chill in that globe for a while and kill everything mindlessly you ll see less complain about wave 100 ennemies being too hard to kill XD Edited February 5, 2014 by Tsoe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xGryphus Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Seem legit but I got an awkward feeling that leaving Snow Globes on two caps - time and durability will cripple it just like it crippled Iron Skin so I assume it would be wise to remove time cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jinmori Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 I seriously hope that all the peoples complaining right now like this change on frost is gonna annihilate their life are not the same peoples who are constantly asking for more difficulty in warframe. You need to be sure of what you want guys. From my point of view, trinity's blessing or frost snowglobe are/where not things that makes the game more difficult. Now you're gonna stop earlier in defence and survival mission, because things are too hard. So what ? Is that not what you where asking for ? I'm not even sure those missions were designed to go that far actually, no wonder why more than half of the warframes become useless after a certain lvl. Y'all need to calm down. Being rude will not help you being heard by DE, and it sure won't make you sleep better tonight (do you even sleep ?). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hallowieners Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Snow globe's health is too low for high leveled mission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goatwithbenefits Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Going to drink some cold tears tonight. I can still smell a buff for the globe's health coming in the next few patches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Farren Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 I agree with the health values being. . .off. I am okay with the concept of the nerf though. 2c time: Snowglobe regenerates health. Snowglobe has multiple plates which make it a sphere, each with their own health. Snowglobe instead needs x amount of damage instances to die, not hp. Snowglobe has some form of Damage Reduction to its hp. (Starts as 100% dr, but reduces as it takes more hits, down to 0 hp or 0% dr.) Snowglobe has more health. Using powers in Snowglobe regenerates hp, or has some synergy. No duration. (Not listed in the changes, but it is implied) Or any combination of the above. Just 2c. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
General_Krull Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 How to use snow globe in U12 you are totaly wrong Frost allways changed the game-play like... hey guys it's getting hot out their , let's go in that globe for a while and kill everything mindlessly So now it is "hey guys it's getting hot out there" and lose the mission because pod health doesn't scale and you can't protect it in any way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xylia Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Because we have actually played the game enough to know it's a bad change. Iron skin has health, see how long it lasts even on pluto. Now see how long it lasts on t3 defense. And again, they said the change was made so other frames would have a use on defenses but this doesn't affect other frames at all, it only makes frost one of the other frames. ^^ This. Tier 3 Defense, Iron Skin is gone in 3 seconds flat if you stand outside the Globe during the last couple waves. And my Iron Skin is about 2400 health. There's just no reasonable way to deal with that type of ridiculous incoming damage on T3 Defense. There's no "Cover", you're in the middle of a huge sodding room, if you move away from the Objective, then the enemies will kill it in seconds (because you know, it is TWO HUGE FREAKING PODS THAT CAN BE HIT FROM THE OTHER SIDE OF THE ROOM). Do they seriously think a 3500, or even 5,000, or heck even 7,000 damage Snowglobe is going to protect that for very long? How about No? Maybe if you bring 3x Frost and 1x Nyx and just spam Chaos and stack Snowglobes.... But we're right back to Snowglobe Spam. They need to change T3 Defense, BEFORE nerfing Snowglobe. Seriously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oizen Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 That HP is way too low. It'll disapear in seconds. And the Ice Frame still doesnt have a viable way of freezing anything does he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiBBz Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 sweet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaClamps Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 you are totaly wrong Frost allways changed the game-play like... hey guys it's getting hot out their , let's go in that globe for a while and kill everything mindlessly you ll see less complain about wave 100 ennemies being too hard to kill XD Wait, that last sentence. The hell? That makes absolutely no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaskadar Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Well, with today's change, at least T3D isn't finite. You don't need to do 15 waves any longer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xRufus7x Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 How about you go try to kill yourself. Are you running always invis loki and dont know damage output of single enemy? Ohh wait you never went for endless defence/survival... So that you would know, T3 void Last 5 waves are lvl50-lvl65. Go against that. Looking at this i am afraid Nyx Loki and Trinity will get nerfs as well. Vauban nerfed, Frost nerfed. Just fantastic. I dont want U12 anymore TIP: DAMAGE INSTANCES NOT DAMAGE TAKEN LIMIT at least Oh the internet. Where people can say inflammatory things without repercussion. You know, it is possible to voice complaints and concerns without telling strangers to commit suicide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cpl_Facehugger Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 you are totaly wrong Frost allways changed the game-play like... hey guys it's getting hot out their , let's go in that globe for a while and kill everything mindlessly Are you seriously suggesting that things can't get frantic on higher waves of T3 def? I mean, I'm trying to imagine how you're even going to do T3 def without globe to keep the pod from exploding from a glancing hit. Focus entirely on the CC with Nyx and Vauban, I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Egg_Chen Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 (edited) I'm no longer sure I want to live in a world where Snowglobe gets nerfed, and Pull and M Prime are considered fine... Being overly dramatic for effect :) Edit: One last thought, so instead of a Frost in every T3 Def, we'll probably have 4 now, good job! Edited February 5, 2014 by Egg_Chen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaosdreamer Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 I don't really care about Frost others skill since i really use only bubble for T3 def , and not like i use frost anywhere else Problem with what you guys saying 3,500 Damage , it's usually what the heavy units does with theire damage , basicly once we reach some point of round the bubble will be useless since bubble will be one shoot over.. EXCEPT if Globe have damage reduction , and health regen i hope its was no duration also... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaClamps Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 How to use snow globe in U12 So now it is "hey guys it's getting hot out there" and lose the mission because pod health doesn't scale and you can't protect it in any way. inb4 napalms ruk it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GhostWOlf995 Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 DE does play the game dude. And they do have a Test server to test things out on. Hahahahaha. I could be a better tester then their whole team then(and i would even test for them for free just dont do this).. They just dont know how to nerf(balance) things.. Either it get overbuffed of overnerfed.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krovakon Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Why use Frost after patch when you can just use Nyx and accomplish the same goals with much better results? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xylia Posted February 5, 2014 Share Posted February 5, 2014 Well, with today's change, at least T3D isn't finite. You don't need to do 15 waves any longer. Source, please? Last I checked, T3D was still 15 waves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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