Rhaenxys Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 (edited) Lifestrike and Hysteria lifesteal feature are not working properly when joining a match and playing as a non-host, this quick video explains this problem: 0:00 to 1:41 - Playing as a host/solo, the amount of damage healed is working as intended (5% of the damage deal) getting heals of 500-600 on finishers. 1:42 to 2:26 - Joining a match/non-host, as you can see in 1:52-53 my hp is at 177, for a hit of 5824 i receive 9 hp which is way less than playing as a host. Same problem happens with Hysteria lifesteal, there is also situations when lifestrike hits are not taken into account and you get 0 heals, this happens randomly. More video evidence as a non-host, it was a bit dark but the problem can be appreciated: The problem is pretty much the same since the excavation update (dunno what number was) as can be seen in this old thread: https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/333975-life-strike-bug/page-2 Added more video evidence: 0:00 to 0:38 non-host version: you can see a hit of 22132 healing me for 57 which is clearly not the same amount of heals as playing as a host. 0:38 to 1:32 host version: getting the proper amount of heals. To resume, as a non-host the healing received from lifestrike/Hysteria lifesteal seems to be capped at enemy max hp who is a huge nerf, the host version is not too unbalanced to nerf this, if this is intended. Edited January 28, 2015 by Rhaenxys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acos Posted January 10, 2015 Share Posted January 10, 2015 I don't have much to add except that I can absolutely confirm these problems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenxys Posted January 10, 2015 Author Share Posted January 10, 2015 I don't have much to add except that I can absolutely confirm these problems. That will help too :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenxys Posted January 10, 2015 Author Share Posted January 10, 2015 I dont need a dev response about this (because is not necessary) but i will appreciate if this appear on the patch notes when is fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LambertExe Posted January 11, 2015 Share Posted January 11, 2015 Lifestrike and Hysteria lifestrike feature are not working properly when joining a match and playing as a non-host, this quick video explains this problem: 0:00 to 1:41 - Playing as a host/solo, the amount of damage healed is working as intended (5% of the damage deal) getting heals of 500-600 on finishers. 1:42 to 2:26 - Joining a match/non-host, as you can see in 1:52-53 my hp is at 177, for a hit of 5824 i receive 9 hp which is way less than playing as a host. Same problem happens with Hysteria lifestrike, there is also situations when lifestrike hits are not taken into account and you get 0 heals, this happens randomly. This is absolutely true and should be fixed. Too many times I ended on the brink of death because of inreliable lifesteal mechanics. I have a strange feeling that when being a host lifesteal percentage is based on TOTAL DAMAGE DEALT to the enemy, where as a client it derives from damage RECEIVED by the enemy or its health pool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenxys Posted January 11, 2015 Author Share Posted January 11, 2015 This is absolutely true and should be fixed. Too many times I ended on the brink of death because of inreliable lifesteal mechanics. I have a strange feeling that when being a host lifesteal percentage is based on TOTAL DAMAGE DEALT to the enemy, where as a client it derives from damage RECEIVED by the enemy or its health pool. Yeah i was thinking the same, in non-host situations is seems to be based on enemy health pool because i was testing this as a client on higher level enemies and i regen more hp than against enemies of 13-15 level however is still less than playing as a host, a lot less amount. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenxys Posted January 13, 2015 Author Share Posted January 13, 2015 I can confirm this now, lifesteal features are capped at enemies max hp when playing as a non-host, this is not applied when playing as a host. I just hope for this to be unintended... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AluminumHaste Posted January 14, 2015 Share Posted January 14, 2015 Noticed the same thing, lifestrike pretty freaking useless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenxys Posted January 14, 2015 Author Share Posted January 14, 2015 Played a game where the host was lagging, i was unable to heal through lifestrike, not only 1 hp, i was forced to rely on Hysteria to get heals. It needs more consistency as a non-host. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenxys Posted January 22, 2015 Author Share Posted January 22, 2015 Bump for visibility, updated with another video proof. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zero255 Posted January 22, 2015 Share Posted January 22, 2015 (edited) This is absolutely true and should be fixed. Too many times I ended on the brink of death because of inreliable lifesteal mechanics. I have a strange feeling that when being a host lifesteal percentage is based on TOTAL DAMAGE DEALT to the enemy, where as a client it derives from damage RECEIVED by the enemy or its health pool. Conform. When playing Greneer survivals i often can heal myself only from Alloy targets. First 5-10 minutes are really hard. Edited January 22, 2015 by Zero255 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattHarrigan Posted January 23, 2015 Share Posted January 23, 2015 Thanks for posting this. Encountered this bug a while ago. Afaik this bug is in the game since release of this mod (correct me if I'm wrong) and should be addressed sooner than later. @DE Devs: Now that you fixed other Host/Client mechanics for example Greedy Pull (thx btw), I hope this will be quick and easy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rhaenxys Posted January 28, 2015 Author Share Posted January 28, 2015 Bumped again for visibility and added another video as evidence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jeremy023 Posted February 3, 2015 Share Posted February 3, 2015 que no me funcionaaaa me tiene cargar todas las actualizaciones pero lo saco y devuelve a cargar y lo avanzaaaaaaaa Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Initbird Posted February 5, 2015 Share Posted February 5, 2015 (edited) -- fixed in 15.12.2 -- Edited February 5, 2015 by Initbird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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