Davoodoo Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 (edited) New TA ofc, what else. Before ill choose my "you and point" meme for this thread i would like to clarify. Example put below illustrates problem which haunts the warframe, complete reliance on exploits which render enemies permamently harmless, whether you use limbo, valkyr, loki, vauban you still survive by making enemy incapable of damaging you. Whether or not you believe its skill or not i dont care, i care that it takes away choice, since any frame without mentioned abilities becomes useless and even those possesing them are relegated to being "jamming device" sitting at middle of map and mindlessly pressing 1 button over and over. Is this really the best that we can expect from de in terms of endgame content, raising lvl till we need to rely on exploits to not get hit?? Whats wrong with it?? 1) got loki?? 2) got 4 corrosive proejctions?? 3) got fully modded scindo or galantine with viral build??(viral helps alot, not necessary though) 4) got enough energy restores or trin?? 5) got some slow nova or vortex vauban If you fulfilled 5 above requirments you can enjoy mindlessly slashing enemies which cant retaliate because if they somehow manage to retaliate, you are dead. Thats what this new TA represents and that is how raids are gonna look like, except step 3, it will be replaced with something else. Only 3k, less than 1% of all players managed to clear it so far, rest either dont care, isnt around or dont have enough gear to fulfill 5 step program. It aint hard, its just stupid. Edit: ppl i know you could probably ignore everything above, bring 4 valkyrs or perma invis lokis and still make it, 5 step program is just surefire way for any group, still some hard cc, perma invis or hysteria is needed. Edit: added explanation for clarity, got rid of outdated numbers. Edited March 1, 2015 by Davoodoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
007-MusicalMind Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 yeah, it looks like a warmup for the coming raids.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trieuazn0 Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 interception is not about killing the mobs, you just have to hold them back from capturing points. go use hydrioid with a max range puddle then proceed to afk for the next 20 mins as the mission compleats itself Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OniDax Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 New TA ofc, what else. Whats wrong with it?? 1) got loki?? 2) got 4 corrosive proejctions?? 3) got fully modded scindo or galantine with viral build?? 4) got enogh energy restores or trin?? 5) got some slow nova or vortex vauban If you fulfilled 5 above requirments you can enjoy mindlessly slashing enemies which cant retaliate because if they somehow manage to retaliate, you are dead. Thats what this new TA represents and that is how raids are gonna look like, except step 3, it will be replaced with something else. Only 3k, less than 1% of all players managed to clear it so far, rest either dont care, isnt around or dont have enough gear to fulfill 5 step program. It aint hard, its just stupid. And this is why I didn't even attempt the "Escalation" Tactical Alert and why I won't participate in Raids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davoodoo Posted February 27, 2015 Author Share Posted February 27, 2015 (edited) interception is not about killing the mobs, you just have to hold them back from capturing points. go use hydrioid with a max range puddle then proceed to afk for the next 20 mins as the mission compleats itself Still need to kill them sometimes, getting close enough to puddle with hydroid will get you killed from some napalm, better to spam vortex or slow nova with disarm. Btw they die pretty fast. Scindo prime hits for about 28k, lancers have around 50k hp, gunners around 120k and heavy eximus around 250k. Edited February 27, 2015 by Davoodoo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vernoc Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 (edited) easy going with right team u just have to have to have a modded loki or Nova or Hydroid or oberon or excal or trinity or u can join without any good gear if ur mates are good the only must have is corrosive projection Edited February 27, 2015 by -ExT-Vernoc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HibikiGanaha Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 You don't need 2 or 3 to beat it. Ground pound and use finishers to ignore armor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davoodoo Posted February 27, 2015 Author Share Posted February 27, 2015 easy going with right team u just have to have to have a modded loki or Nova or Hydroid or oberon or excal or trinity or u can join without any good gear if ur mates are good the only must have is corrosive projection Would have believed that if i hadnt died few times when refreshing vortex and bastille from some random napalm shot at nearby wall. Some hard cc is needed, loki simply works best while also being pretty safe from anything but napalms. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Otaiken Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 If this is what DE imagines "challenge" is like then I'm out. Most of the tactics to win this involve not using the weapon you need to bring in the first place. The first alert was tedious enough, but this takes the cake. We have to go higher! Gimme a break... wanna prove a point DE? Well, good job, mission accomplished. I shan't be playing this then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Senketsu_ Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 we beat it with an, Excal running RB build and CP, a loki running Irradiating disarm with CP, a Trinity just supporting with Pads and all her abilities running ES, and a Nyx just doing what Nyx does running ES. and we talked a and coordinated, and it was a BLAST! I loved it and will wear that Sigil with Pride. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)WiiConquered Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 I think this kind of thing is okay--for tactical alerts only. Those are intended to be about designing the right team, at least in my opinion. The problem is that with raids, this type of thing will be the rule, not the exception. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tali Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 why couldnt the enemies be smarter instead of scaling off the charts and One shotting everything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
direcyphre Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 New tactical alert: 1. Rep Farm Squad 2. ????? 3. You're already done. Really not sure how it relates to raids, as we already saw a preview of it last devstream. Mind you, it was just a preview and is subject to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vernoc Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Would have believed that if i hadnt died few times when refreshing vortex and bastille from some random napalm shot at nearby wall. Some hard cc is needed, loki simply works best while also being pretty safe from anything but napalms. try to have a max str nova in ur team with max dur all enemys stop moving , then a frame of choice for cc (e.g. excal/loki/nyx) and u already won Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davoodoo Posted February 27, 2015 Author Share Posted February 27, 2015 try to have a max str nova in ur team with max dur all enemys stop moving , then a frame of choice for cc (e.g. excal/loki/nyx) and u already won Which i said in OP ^^. Yes it is a surefire way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Burnthesteak87 Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 (edited) I'm often supporting DE and refusing to yield myself to easy gripes, but this "escalated" event was ... terrible.Oneshot when out of the cover... Oneshot when you're in the open field... Even if you stay on cover there aren't safe places while capping bases.The only counterplay is spamming Hard CC and staying stealthed. This isn't promoting skillful and smart playing.It's not a matter of skill, it's a matter of having the right gear and having other 3 competent people. you can't even try alone without a Loki.Bah. Edited February 27, 2015 by Burnthesteak87 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Husla Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 I'm often supporting DE and refusing to yield myself to easy gripes, but this "escalated" event was ... terrible. Oneshot when out of the cover... Oneshot when you're in the open field... Even if you stay on cover there aren't safe places while capping bases. The only counterplay is spamming Hard CC and staying stealthed. This isn't promoting skillful and smart playing. It's not a matter of skill, it's a matter of having the right gear and having other 3 competent people. you can't even try alone without a Loki. Bah. It wasn't even that hard.YOU should be able to beat it easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gilmaesh Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 If this is what DE imagines "challenge" is like then I'm out. Most of the tactics to win this involve not using the weapon you need to bring in the first place. Unless they "change" a few things, it will be difficult to have any kind of challenge in this game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geninrising Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 Stupid freakin ability spam. Sick as can be with this crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sibernetika Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 2 Loki's, Saryn and Nova go slow.. and well that was easy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IIISTIXIII Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 +1 OP. The only good thing about this alert is that it showcases how weak the concept of challenge in this game is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Maruko_The_Chinchilla Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 (edited) 1. Loki 2. Valkyr 3. Banshee 2 Corrosive Projection and 1 Steel Charge Thats my way Edited February 27, 2015 by Maruko_Uchiha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIDESTRE4M Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 I've got only two people, I have no way. xD Not that I care that much though. Gimp the game to win? Nice one. Not saying it doesn't require skill to coordinate with team, watch for builds etc. but man is this lame. I think this is an experiment from DE just to see how it turns out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-FV-Wsocks Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 So because the challenge is beatable, we should have less hope that raids will be well designed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SIDESTRE4M Posted February 27, 2015 Share Posted February 27, 2015 There will always be people beating it. Until I don't get at least three people together I will just shrug this off. All I did the last months was doing the opposite of ability spamming to get some joy out of warframe, so now I have to do exactly the opposite with specific configurations. Hm... well, I'm not forced to do it and just lose that sigil... so whatever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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