Forgivness Posted May 3, 2015 Share Posted May 3, 2015 That doesnt make any sense. since it is a shield rather than a sword, shouldnt it naturally block? for a forma they should have that at the very least: block requiring no stamina Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerenax Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 It actually requires more stamina to block than most other melee weapons. DE logic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surtur Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 It actually requires more stamina to block than most other melee weapons. DE logic. They recently changed it so that it requires very little stamina to block. I don't know when, but a clan mate told me and I tested it to be sure. That seems to be the case. It could still use a small buff, but it is much better than before Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forgivness Posted May 4, 2015 Author Share Posted May 4, 2015 shouldn't it use zero stamina since its not really moving? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surtur Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 shouldn't it use zero stamina since its not really moving? I think it should use some. Holding a shield up and having it get hit tires you out. I think it should have a shield bash option though, or that (correct me if I am wrong, I heard that damage does scale into stamina consumed for blocking) the scaling shouldn't exist for the silva and aegis. Maybe give the silva and aegis regeneration when blocking. No matter what, it needs something to help it out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HAYABU5A Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 atm warriors grip u can almost perma block (ranged) and regen energy via rage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marthrym Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Considering stamina consumption is based on the amount of damage blocked/parried, only full melee+stamina builds can withstand more than a few shots at "high" levels (not talking endless crap, no, even "regular" missions show the limits of melee parrying surpisingly early) without running out of juice, but the investment isn't worth it in the end, too demanding and restrictive, so... And yes, DE logic at work. Best logic. Or lack thereof... Luckily they are working on something with the stamina "overhaul", they mentioned it last devstream. So it's wait and see for now unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forgivness Posted May 4, 2015 Author Share Posted May 4, 2015 I think it should use some. Holding a shield up and having it get hit tires you out. I think it should have a shield bash option though, or that (correct me if I am wrong, I heard that damage does scale into stamina consumed for blocking) the scaling shouldn't exist for the silva and aegis. Maybe give the silva and aegis regeneration when blocking. No matter what, it needs something to help it out but the damage is horrid so shouldnt it be there to balance it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[DE]Momaw Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Tested. Platform: Trinity, no stamina mods, no stamina regeneration mods Enemy: Fusion MOA level 15 BO PRIME Blocked for 6 seconds AEGIS Blocked for 20+ seconds AEGIS WITH WARIOR GRIP Blocked for 30+ seconds Tried an (arid) heavy gunner as well. At level 20, it didn't seem to make a difference whether I used warrior grip or not, it was ~8.5 seconds either way. Very strange. Never used this mod before, I should learn more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)bigsnake84 Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Any melee weapon + reflex guard = infini-block But seriously it definitely should require less stamina to block. I have it but never paid attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[DE]Momaw Posted May 4, 2015 Share Posted May 4, 2015 Any melee weapon + reflex guard = infini-block Well, yes. If you seriously want to use swordalone higher than level lulz, reflex guard is what you need. Pair it with a melee weapon that can actually do some good damage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)avatar-heart Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 why is blocking with a shield worse then blocking with a dagger O_O i mean common, the shield blocking is potent... kinda, but I i feel safer if you throw the shield away and only use the dagger XD or small sword cause does not look like a shield and sword Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)avatar-heart Posted May 6, 2015 Share Posted May 6, 2015 unless they buffed it cause idk, have not used it in some time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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