Kalimando Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 (edited) The hind, while a very interesting looking Grineer weapon, is severely lacking in its capabilities. Compared to similar style weapons such as the Burston & Bprime as well as Braton & Br Prime it simply falls short in its utility. Major Gripes 1. Fire rate - Since fire rate only makes the time between bursts shorter, and since the bursts take so long to complete since its a five shot burst, Fire rate is completely out the window for this weapon. I understand that some mods are naturally unsuited to certain weapons ( say increased magazine on vectis ), however given that this weapons shots aren't exactly instagib I think the way fire rate affects this weapon needs a rework. 2. Damage - The Hind primarily deals slash damage, while slash is always handy, the Grineer weapon set, and the assault weapon group as a whole is fairly widely saturated with slash heavy weapons. I think weighting the damage more towards Puncture would make this weapon fill a more desirable Niche in the grand scheme. An interesting side effect of this could be that Elite Lancers would then be more capable of sapping tenno damage output, rather than just slash proc'ing them to death, (which isn't fun). Minor Gripes 1. Appearance - The Hind is a very cool looking aesthetic for a grineer weapon, which is why its a shame that only the first two of the color pallet options affect the weapon's visuals. It would be nice if there was more customization options for this weapon. Hook Suggestions The five round burst on this weapon is very situational, but what if the weapon had an alt fire? If I could change the hook on the Hind, it would be that the alternate fire changes the fire-mode, The gun could switch between five round burst and single fire (or full auto). Having an interesting alternate fire on this gun would make it far more appealing to people, and make it far more worth the six neurodes it takes to build. As always, any rebuttals and suggestions or input are welcome. As someone who loves the grineer aesthetic I find this weapon's lack of utility disappointing. Just to offer a bit of perspective, I have 152 weapons in my inventory currently, and recently added a forma to my Hind to see if I could make it more fun, needless to say its prompted this thread. Edited July 29, 2015 by Kalimando Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinKenshin Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 just let the elite lancer teach us how to use it, they seem to do proper damage with it >_> Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ViolettaFoxx Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 I forgot this weapon existed, but when I did level it to 30 ages ago I did enjoy it but yes, it was very lacking. And even more so today. I agree completely! I am certain though they did not intend this weapon to be a high-tier one. A bit of a buff/rework would never hurt anything, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizzaro21 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 it was a disappointment when i crafted it for using it, shame I dumped 6 neurodes on this thing, the suggestions u have here are good, but I`d rather not have alt. fire, as it means no zoom, just make them switchable by, I dunno, holding fire for 2 secs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kalimando Posted July 29, 2015 Author Share Posted July 29, 2015 (edited) it was a disappointment when i crafted it for using it, shame I dumped 6 neurodes on this thing, the suggestions u have here are good, but I`d rather not have alt. fire, as it means no zoom, just make them switchable by, I dunno, holding fire for 2 secs? I understand the concern you have. You may be interested to know then that they are giving zoom and alt fire their own keys as of the next update. No need to chose between anymore! Edited July 29, 2015 by Kalimando Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeMeritus Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Hind could use some love. The baguette gun is... kind of crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bizzaro21 Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 I understand the concern you have. You may be interested to know then that they are giving zoom and alt fire their own keys as of the next update. No need to chose between anymore! Made my day bro :D +1 for alt. fire then Quandal master race is coming Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfssenger Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Take this. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradoxbomb Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 I always thought this thing fired too slow even before it's fire rate got nerfed, so I can't imagine what hell it must be to use now. They should either restore the burst-fire rate back to it's original speed or just change fire-rates so that they speed up the actually burst-fire rate already. And I really like the idea of the HInd having an alternative fire mode, especially now that the alt-fire button and zoom-in will soon be separated. Unfortunately I can't imagine the Hind getting more than a tune-up (if even that) so a mechanical change like that is a pipe dream in my book. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Necr0Ra1se Posted July 30, 2015 Share Posted July 30, 2015 just let the elite lancer teach us how to use it, they seem to do proper damage with it >_> I think EL have special agument mod for their hind that buffs it's dmg and accuracy for 100% for each burst you shoot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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