Vasault Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Yeah post number #3981, i won't stop this, i really want my silva&aegis rework, yes, i said REWORK, i rather see this weapon to have a decent revamp or rework than a new shield&sword weapon, my suggestion as always is -Longer weapon range (this is not a knife, is a freaking sword -.-) -Better combo stance (or make a new one) -Non-elemental weapon (this is just a suggestion, considering we have just one single shield&sword weapon type) -Chroma element changer (put an elemental mod in the first slot and transform the sword into that element) -Visual rework (this is just a suggestion, but i really want to see something like this) and this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
YouHaveShamedYoFamory Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Oooor make a new shield and sword wep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brokenrune Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Hey dude, they are removing stamina and with that they are going to change blocking to a percentage damage reduction. What do you think would be most effective blocking bullets, a sword or a shield. I think they are going to buff the siliva and aegis to have a 99% damage redution >..> since it is a shield... That is godly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sziklamester Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 The elemental weapon and damage is not problem for ageis the problem is the amount what does and the low status. I sugges to revamp all older content weapons before they making new ones because a lot of weapons need it's small buffs for the reason not to be only mastery fodder like some weapon does. The plasma sword also call for some buff because does only electrical damage and with low status-crit rate and absolutely slow one handed sword "not twohanded" and it's really pain to use. There is more older weapon also but feel free to suggest some. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Amaterasu- Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 A visual rework probably won't happen since it's a fan designed weapon. Changing the element and making it non elemental are both bad suggestions it is one weapon if you want different elements then i'm sure there will be more in the future (Pretty sure they said they were making another sword and shield). All for more combos would love to see a new stance added for it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasault Posted July 29, 2015 Author Share Posted July 29, 2015 Oooor make a new shield and sword wep NO, NO AND NO, this is the worst solution for this, is the reason why there is sooo many forgotten weapons, and silva&aegis is one of them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterHog Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 I propose this, to make it usable: Since the new blocking works with damage reduction instead of invincibility for Stamina. I propose Silva & Aegis, being Shield, have 100% damage reduction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WingedCrusade Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Why don't we also look at the dozens of other weapons that require rebuilding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)AyersyBears Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Considering it was a fan-designed weapon, the visual rework is out of the question.I'm all up for a new sword and board that looks similar to the pics above though. And a stance that's maybe a little easier to get. Sword and Board will become better in Parkour 2.0 though, due to stamina going, and blocking being a damage reduction based on weapon design. Considering it has a shield, I expect the damage reduction to be pretty high, if not 100%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradoxbomb Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 (edited) Even if fire isn't the best element, I think the Silva & Aegis being an elemental weapon is actually advantage, as it makes it easier to get more desirable status effects out of it. I also sincerely doubt they'll redesign it for two reasons: 1) It already looks awesome 2) It was a player-made weapon, so that would be a big middle finger to the original designer Anyway, as far as buffs go, I think it would be thematically fitting if the Aegis absorbed damage that you use it to block with, which in turn would power up a damage/status chance multiplier on the sword. Maybe even allow us to use the shield like a very powerful (but also very short-range) version of the Glaive; the more damage it absorbs the larger and more powerful an AoE it makes when thrown. A general damage buff and/or Chroma-esque element changing function would suffice though. Edited July 29, 2015 by Paradoxbomb Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GordoFreeman Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Yeah post number #3981, i won't stop this, i really want my silva&aegis rework, yes, i said REWORK, i rather see this weapon to have a decent revamp or rework than a new shield&sword weapon, my suggestion as always is -Longer weapon range (this is not a knife, is a freaking sword -.-) -Better combo stance (or make a new one) -Non-elemental weapon (this is just a suggestion, considering we have just one single shield&sword weapon type) -Chroma element changer (put an elemental mod in the first slot and transform the sword into that element) -Visual rework (this is just a suggestion, but i really want to see something like this) and this Oooor make a new shield and sword wep Tyl comes with U17 and guess what... he will drop a sword and shield weapon. If results better than silva.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tocorro Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 (edited) or time to buff Ignis :) Edited July 30, 2015 by tocorro Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Surtur Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 (edited) I agree the silva and aegis needs a buff, and while the range is bad it shouldn't be increased drastically. It is supposed to be a short sword and shield, somewhat Roman Legion style. I believe an increase in damage wouldn't be harmful, and maybe an increase in shield size or give the shield a unique mechanic where it can very slowly cause you to regain health when blocking. Either through a base amount of health per second or health regained dependent on how much damage has been blocked to help it scale with a set limit of how much health can be regained Edit: Or maybe cause some damage to be reflected innately. Especially on the silva and aegis, so when you are damaged some fire is reflected by the shield and can potentially cause a fire proc to the enemy Edited July 29, 2015 by Surtur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lakais Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Removing the elemental thing would maybe not be the best approach. But I do agree that the complete lack of physical damage attributes makes this weapon half as powerful as, lets say a Skana. Status procs are all fine and dandy but they are worth jack-S#&$ if they don't actually kill your target in a reasonable amount of time. As for the combo stance. I agree. The one we have lacks some very basic ones like a RMB-E for a simple shield bash. Hold the shield up and smack someone in the face with it. Or if that is too simple: RMB-E-E. Smack someone in the face to stagger them back a step and then shove that sword into their face, 300 style. The range point I also get. I like my melee weapons to have some range, but then again as a shield I think DE thought it'd be more in your face then some other weapons. But since it lacks a stance with some fast, quick and easy CC "counter-attacks" the really close range approach doesn't fit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasault Posted July 29, 2015 Author Share Posted July 29, 2015 Why don't we also look at the dozens of other weapons that require rebuilding? completely agree with that, there are many MANY forgotten weapons out there Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrazilianJoe Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Now that stamina is gone: Silva & Aegis should be top-tier in damage mitigation while blocking. Enemies doing melee attacks while the player is blocking should be 100% blocked and retorted with an auto-stagger in the enemy. SHould be a high status, fast hitting weapon IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vasault Posted July 29, 2015 Author Share Posted July 29, 2015 Silva & Aegis should be top-tier in damage mitigation while blocking. top-tier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrazilianJoe Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Duuude, this is a butff Silva & Aegis thread. I have stated where it SHOULD BE. a sword + shield melee weapon should be the weapon which mitigates damage the most. In case you lost the memo, when stamina goes away, melee blocking will mitigate damage, not fully block it. Chanelling will partially reflect damage as well. The weapon class of sword+shield should be really effective at this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dell_the_Engie Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 (edited) With Update 17 removing stamina, all melee weapons will have a new blocking system, in which they will mitigate a percentage of damage, depending on what type of weapon they are. Channeling the weapon will reflect damage, which will stack with the Reflection mod, and I believe channeling efficiency will also depend on the the weapon. I expect this will become quite the boon for Silva and Aegis, if they make the "sword and shield" category the most effective at blocking, which I don't see why they wouldn't. I think probably the only thing Silva and Aegis needs is a damage buff; its design is very unique, both aesthetically and mechanically, but it would be a lot more fun to use, if it didn't feel like wielding a paper plate and butter knife. I expect the new blocking system will help a lot, and at that point, the only thing I could ask for is that it packs, a little more heat. Edited July 29, 2015 by Dell_the_Engie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AMDMAD Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 (edited) Lol wait almost 2 years to get a buff . Exactly like they did with supra . However Embolist also needs a buff.Generally most mastery fodder weapons need a buff Edited July 29, 2015 by AMDMAD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seth Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Does anyone remember lanka or that wierd flux rifle thing? xD Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paradoxbomb Posted July 29, 2015 Share Posted July 29, 2015 Does anyone remember lanka or that wierd flux rifle thing? xD In my experience the Lanka is still pretty viable (as viable as snipers can be anyway). Not sure about the Flux Rifle though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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