Attel_Malagate Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 ^title As U17 came with huge bufs to most shotguns, I want to hunderline the fact that the new values of shotgun damages and particulary the so called "DPS" is not a reliable measurment of a weapon's power, as the way this amount of damage delivered is also concerned. Yes, shotguns are now outDPSing most automatic weapons, shoud they be nerfed ? NO and here is why: While the most commonly used weapons like boltor, soma or braton prime are automatic weapons with huge magasines and a LINEAR delivery of damage, allowing to easely deliver lethal damages to weakest the enemies with a few shots, sparing the rest of the weapon's magazine, shotguns can only deliver this damage huge chunks by huge chunks, being extremly usefull against tougher enemies but wasting a considerable amount of "DPS" in "overkiling" weaker enemies. This being said, it is clear that shotguns are delivering damage with much less efficiency than automatic weapons, that is why their damage need to stay higher than automatic rifles, just try to clear a room with a shotgun, it will ultimately be much longer than with an assault rifle, the shotguns and other high damage/ low magazine weapons also suffer from VERY punishing missed shots, while you can spray and prey with any automatic weapons and still get satisfying results. I made this topic in prevention of the nerf lovers who will soon enough come and ask for a nerf on shotguns or any other high damage low magazine weapons and to point out that DPS is a very subjective value that should not be taken exclusively in account when it comes to a weapon's power. The prime example of this is the Tonkor, with his uber damages, it can be seen as OP but it comes with a much more mediocre maniability, and a super punishing miss-hit, I also want to point out that we need more diversity in end game weapons, hek, tigris, sobek and other shotguns should be welcomed by the community instead of being the target of nerf peasents. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Prof_Blocks_007 Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 Agreed. I'm loving the massive one-hit kills my Hek can perform on enemies up to level 35-40 :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)DesecratedFlame Posted August 2, 2015 Share Posted August 2, 2015 Shotguns need to have wider spread and all fall off removed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheLastSeraphim Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Shotguns need to have wider spread and all fall off removed. Yeah No, Just No, We've already gone past the days when Shotguns had no Fall off, and the only gun ever used was the Hek. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)DesecratedFlame Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Yeah No, Just No, We've already gone past the days when Shotguns had no Fall off, and the only gun ever used was the Hek. The fall off doesn't even make sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xontix627 Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 (edited) I'm in favour of actually buffing all shotguns instead of leaving some to rot. *Cough* Strun / Wraith *Cough* Boar Prime *Cough* Kohm *Cough Cough* Back on topic: I very much agree that some shotguns are in a good spot right now, the Tigris being my favourite besides the duplex auto which I can't seem to ever use properly. Other than that they seem to be doing their job of One shotting enemies and killing in close quarters well. Shotguns need to have wider spread and all fall off removed. Also; Hahahahahahaha, we've already had this and found out that it was indeed broken. Hek became the only viable weapon simply because of no fall off and it's absurdly high damage. Edited August 4, 2015 by xontix627 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaskadar Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 While your spelling is horrible, OP, I agree with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
f3llyn Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Also; Hahahahahahaha, we've already had this and found out that it was indeed broken. Hek became the only viable weapon simply because of no fall off and it's absurdly high damage. Obviously if they got rid of fall off entirely they would either nerf the Heks damage a bit or buff the others again to make them comparable in some way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluelitHalo Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 (edited) Basically, practical DPS is much lower than theoretical DPS for shotguns because of pellet spread and the infamous falloff. Edited August 4, 2015 by Sonitorum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObviousLee Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 My hek has 16k puncture and 5k heat... My mind is kinda blown. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bipp Posted August 4, 2015 Share Posted August 4, 2015 Excellently put, OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wolfssenger Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Hunderline. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShawnV2 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 This man knows what he's talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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