grittydude Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Which frames need reworks more than others? What do you want to be reworked? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kthal Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Ash, Trinity, Zephyr, Saryn, Valkyr, Hydroid, Oberon (in no particular order) are the frames with multiple abilities being underused and needing attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)EvilFlowerChild Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Ember, limbo and saryn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sh0ck-Wave Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Nothing that a few Syndicate mods couldn't fix for any of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grittydude Posted August 29, 2015 Author Share Posted August 29, 2015 Ash, Trinity, Zephyr, Saryn, Valkyr, Hydroid, Oberon (in no particular order) are the frames with multiple abilities being underused and needing attention. ASH?!?!?i have seem lots of ash players use all his abilities... They work together really well! Shuriken-remove armour/slash proc Smoke screen- stealth Teleport- teleport to an enemy, perform finisher Blade storm- murder rampage.... All his abilities are good. I agree with hydroid saryn but not valkyr and oberon who was reworked in u14 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-CM-Tiffany Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Ember comes to mind. But she's not in as dire need of a rework as Ember. Actually, Ember needs a rework much more. I feel like her kit is very plain and unsatisfying to play, Well, Ember is even worse. But, putting all that away for a second, Ember should get a rework. But only after Ember does. Have you considered Ember? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grittydude Posted August 29, 2015 Author Share Posted August 29, 2015 Ember comes to mind. But she's not in as dire need of a rework as Ember. Actually, Ember needs a rework much more. I feel like her kit is very plain and unsatisfying to play, Well, Ember is even worse. But, putting all that away for a second, Ember should get a rework. But only after Ember does. Have you considered Ember? i'm sensing the general theme of ember.... And i agree she definitely needs a rework Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sziklamester Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Mostly tweaks needs here not full reworks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volinus7 Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Lady First Ember First Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oishii Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Ember could probably use a new skin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)EvilFlowerChild Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Mostly tweaks needs here not full reworks. Well i enjoy both ember and saryn, with ember I don't necessarily think she nees an overhaul ala excalibur but she nees major tweaks and not some stuff like 'now she casts world on fire faster!! Voilà' she's a damage dealer and her damage is almost non existent if you bring her to T3+, while saryn needs a overhaul, you sacrifice 3 abilities in order to have one good ability that still scales off really badly. Limbo..well he's just annoying because no one seems to be able to use him properly but yeah he just needs some tweaks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AdunSaveMe Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Ash, Trinity, Zephyr, Saryn, Valkyr, Hydroid, Oberon (in no particular order) are the frames with multiple abilities being underused and needing attention. With the possible exceptions of Reckoning and Well of Life, Trinity and Oberon do not need reworks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)SteampunkJester Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Limbo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Trauma Paladin Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 With the possible exceptions of Reckoning and Well of Life, Trinity and Oberon do not need reworks. Could not agree more especially in Trinity's case she has abilities that synergize so well together and she fits a role that is not available really from any other frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamescell Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Nekros. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sziklamester Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Some stat tweaks can help for the majority of the frames like more armor, armor changes, health and shield changes. A different type of damage reduction would be cool which using the non used resistance mods at least add them as stats which could be different on each frames. Passive mod slots also would be good but I think the greatest problem for balance is the bad enemy scaling on very high levels. Insane stats and almost everything going to be totally useless and the abilities cannot save you. Mostly the damage dealers suffer from this ability disadvantages while a Loki can disarm enemies and go invisibility. I think that Limbo is just a misudnerstanded frame because really strange it's own role and how to use the abilities. Ember in the meanwhile got buffes and tweaks and reworked once I think that she could be fine with tweaks. "stat boosts and some ability buffs" Saryn is a strange horse because her first skill could be useful with tweaks and changes. Molt is useful if you want less attendant on your frame and deal a minor damage which is better than Loki's decoy the only disadvantage the range of use. Loki can spawn the decoy far from him. Contagion could be a passive ability for her and making another defensive/offensive ability and her miasma is could be fine. Frames with low armor needs some armor buffs. Zephyr first and second ability could be merged into one and give her a new one. Trinity abilities almost fine her stats needs some buff and maybe well of life and energy vampire abilities minor changes to be more useful but now atleast can stop one enemy and gives extras. Mag abilities fine almost maybe the bullet attractor could be given a second ability to deflect the incoming damage like the turbulence does. It can be called bullet deflector. Loki maybe some stat extras, almost fine. Volt needs some armor bonus and power bonus - a caster who haven't enough power to use their abilities. Rhino, Oberon, more armor but I am not used Rhino so much so I don't know his problems. Nyx physics bolt needs tweaks or changes. and at least 100+ armor she is the same like excal and her armor just ridicoulusly low. Others are also needs their tweaks for the endgame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Aquarii Ptosi Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Definitely agree with Trinity but Oberon definitely needs a bit more then just a simple tweak to his Reckoning. Why would I want to heal you if you're across the map and the flight time is still considered channeling to be channeling? A carpet with with amazing perks but minimal range is pointless. Fill the room he's in with carpet. Moreover reckoning is fine for the most part you could just increase cast speed but Hallowed Reckoning suffers the same uselessness of hallowed Ground only scaled by x10. P.s Radiation gets 3+ on "like" 3 enemies and is then - on everyother enemy in game. Wth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Syntax3Error Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Ash, Trinity, Zephyr, Saryn, Valkyr, Hydroid, Oberon (in no particular order) are the frames with multiple abilities being underused and needing attention. I bet you only think trinity needs a rework because of that "NEED EV TRIN + MESA" meta. a well skilled player know that using all trin's abilities can get you one of the tank if not the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)samppaH Posted August 29, 2015 Share Posted August 29, 2015 Fun test for you guys, take Ash, go to simulacrum and spawn 5 level 90 Napalms or Bombards and cast Bladestorm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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