MegpoidBeetle Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 "The Magistar Mace wields justice and truth in the form of bone-crushing blows." -Magistar's description I remembered when Magistar first came out along with Oberon, I instantly fell in love with both of them. Still don't get why Magistar had to be given a nerf to its attack speed. It was one of the better heavy weapons out there before Melee 2.0 came. Its attack speed makes it ill-suited for Shattering Storm as well, as at the end Smashing Fury and Pounding Strike combo has a noticeable lag that leaves you vulnerable to other units, but we'll talk about that stance some other time~ As for now, I got a few suggestions to polish this weapon. Not exactly going to make it as strong as Jat Kittag, but perhaps could make it good enough to have it being used from time to time. After doing a quick search on Magistar's property of being a flanged mace, I'd say this weapon may very well have the potential to be the sort of well-rounded IPS weapon (equal or almost equal Impact, Puncture and Slash damage). The flanges on Magistar's head suggest that it should be doing more Slash and Puncture damage than it currently does. Hek, why in Malacath's toenail does Fragor; fully box-shaped hammer deals MORE Slash and Puncture damage than Magistar? As of now we don't have any melee weapon that have this sort of well-rounded IPS damage like Seer, Braton or Twin Gremlins, but giving it this property to Magistar would make it a unique melee especially in the Impact-only Hammer class (Sheev was supposedly to be a Slash-Puncture weapon as implied by the description, but oh well). A slight damage buff (to 90?) and reverting the speed nerf along with the change to its damage type (26.6-26.6-26.6 or 30-30-30 IPS damage) could make this weapon shine like a smooth baby butt again. And seeing how the descriptions associates it with "justice and truth", a syndicate augment from either Steel Meridian or Arbiters of Hexis would be schway as well. As DE had the idea of making low-tier weapons at least late game viable with augments (Furis, Skana, Jaw Sword), an augment could be alternative as well if these changes can't be brought to Magistar. Could call it Crushing Justice or Fleeting Truth that increases its attack speed by 60% or something along there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oraeas Posted August 31, 2015 Share Posted August 31, 2015 +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrsrkr Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Hell yes to this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightCole Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 WAIT...they NERFED its attack speed? Well that explains so much. I tried to use that, got it to 30 and sold it....cuz OMFG was it wwwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy to goddamn slow to be useful, even with a maxed fury, to damn slow. I died atleast 2 times waiting for the stupid &#! swinging animation to end....I made the mistake of swinging more then 3 times before moving away.....its like each swing takes like 7 seconds each.... WTB Magistar attack speed buff? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThePredicament Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 Oberon bias but I understand since Magistar NEEDS to be on that guy. Agreed on the speed revert though, not even sure why they got rid of it, even with the relatively low damage, the high crit with a 75% Berserker proc would keep it together with the other heavy weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegpoidBeetle Posted September 1, 2015 Author Share Posted September 1, 2015 WAIT...they NERFED its attack speed? Well that explains so much. I tried to use that, got it to 30 and sold it....cuz OMFG was it wwwwwwwwwwaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy to goddamn slow to be useful, even with a maxed fury, to damn slow. I died atleast 2 times waiting for the stupid ! swinging animation to end....I made the mistake of swinging more then 3 times before moving away.....its like each swing takes like 7 seconds each.... WTB Magistar attack speed buff? Yep, watch this video and compare to how different it was. I could've make love to it even more if it wasn't for that heavy melee "buff" Oberon bias but I understand since Magistar NEEDS to be on that guy. Agreed on the speed revert though, not even sure why they got rid of it, even with the relatively low damage, the high crit with a 75% Berserker proc would keep it together with the other heavy weapons. Well assuming you a Nekros bias you'd like a scythe buff, wouldn't ya? :P K back to Magistar But I don't really like the idea of Berserker being a must-have mod on slow crit weapons unless their combos hit several times per E (Ackabrunt, for example as it's currently the only "slow" crit weapon I have Berserker on due to Final Harbinger's combo allow it to hit several times.). Shattering Storm doesn't do justice (ehehe) to this weapon with its lag at the end of each combo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
srlhama Posted September 1, 2015 Share Posted September 1, 2015 If I had that attack speed from the video I would never use anything else than Magistar... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegpoidBeetle Posted September 2, 2015 Author Share Posted September 2, 2015 If I had that attack speed from the video I would never use anything else than Magistar... My love for Magistar is like a truck BERSERKERRRRRRRRR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegpoidBeetle Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share Posted September 14, 2015 Bumping own thread because I want my ex[size=1](Magistar)[/size] back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nineart Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Magistar looks amazing and i wanted to use it, until i heard people saying how horrendous it was.. this weapon looks bad &#! and equiping it makes you bad and an &#!. this weapon def. requires revisit +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegpoidBeetle Posted September 14, 2015 Author Share Posted September 14, 2015 Magistar looks amazing and i wanted to use it, until i heard people saying how horrendous it was.. this weapon looks bad ! and equiping it makes you bad and an !. this weapon def. requires revisit +1 It WAS amazing till Melee 2.0 came. The only thing that's still good is its aesthetics :/ Shame that it had to be a downgraded version of Fragor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)zanebrtn Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Would be nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheBrsrkr Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 My love for Magistar is like a truck BERSERKERRRRRRRRR What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sappinmahsentry Posted September 14, 2015 Share Posted September 14, 2015 Magistar Prime when? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegpoidBeetle Posted September 15, 2015 Author Share Posted September 15, 2015 (edited) What? Edited September 15, 2015 by YOUR_MOTHER_HAVE_BANDAIDS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danjal777 Posted September 15, 2015 Share Posted September 15, 2015 100% agree, I love the way this thing hits stuff, it actually feels like you are smashing things into meat-puddles Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegpoidBeetle Posted September 15, 2015 Author Share Posted September 15, 2015 Magistar Prime when? Hopefully comes out along with Oberon Prime. 100% agree, I love the way this thing hits stuff, it actually feels like you are smashing things into meat-puddles Except at the moment it feels more like swinging a giant bottle of water. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B0N3M4N Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Bumping this. Today I crafted the Magistar thinking that it could've been a decent weapon for a berserker build. Nope. This weapon is a simply complete DOWNGRADE compared to the Fragor, it has just less stats on nearly everything and where it doesn't lose it's just at the same level of the weapon said above. Actually I were expecting an heavy melee with less damage but faster attack speed compared to the other ones, not a mace slower than a giant hammer/axe with garbage tier stats and customization(sadly). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkerTheSpjot Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 With the upcoming Hammer skin, I may need to get a hammer for myself, you know, something other than Jat Kittag, bonus points if you can build it for Slash damage. So yeah, buff the Magistar pls. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KnightCole Posted October 20, 2015 Share Posted October 20, 2015 Yep, watch this video and compare to how different it was. I could've make love to it even more if it wasn't for that heavy melee "buff" Well assuming you a Nekros bias you'd like a scythe buff, wouldn't ya? :P K back to Magistar But I don't really like the idea of Berserker being a must-have mod on slow crit weapons unless their combos hit several times per E (Ackabrunt, for example as it's currently the only "slow" crit weapon I have Berserker on due to Final Harbinger's combo allow it to hit several times.). Shattering Storm doesn't do justice (ehehe) to this weapon with its lag at the end of each combo. Wow, yeah, it actually swings in that video. I totally wish they would give it and Galatine that atk speed back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegpoidBeetle Posted October 21, 2015 Author Share Posted October 21, 2015 Bumping this. Today I crafted the Magistar thinking that it could've been a decent weapon for a berserker build. Nope. This weapon is a simply complete DOWNGRADE compared to the Fragor, it has just less stats on nearly everything and where it doesn't lose it's just at the same level of the weapon said above. Actually I were expecting an heavy melee with less damage but faster attack speed compared to the other ones, not a mace slower than a giant hammer/axe with garbage tier stats and customization(sadly). I'm pretty sure the weapon was originally intended to be a faster than Fragor (at one point it was faster than Jat Kittag too) at the cost ot less damage. But as y'know, sh*t happened in the weapon department... With the upcoming Hammer skin, I may need to get a hammer for myself, you know, something other than Jat Kittag, bonus points if you can build it for Slash damage. So yeah, buff the Magistar pls. Uhmhmm, making Jat Kittag outclassing all the weapon in its class in every aspect is a bad move. Dat hammer skin tho Wow, yeah, it actually swings in that video. I totally wish they would give it and Galatine that atk speed back. I'm sure Galatine kepts its attack speed, faster than Scindo P at least. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkerTheSpjot Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 Uhmhmm, making Jat Kittag outclassing all the weapon in its class in every aspect is a bad move. Dat hammer skin tho. That's not what I meant. I was saying that I was considering grabbing the Jat Kittag, since, you know, it's arguably the best hammer there is in the game. But if DE pulls off your buffs for the Magistar (giving it equal IPS damage), then I'll be all over it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MegpoidBeetle Posted October 21, 2015 Author Share Posted October 21, 2015 That's not what I meant. I was saying that I was considering grabbing the Jat Kittag, since, you know, it's arguably the best hammer there is in the game. But if DE pulls off your buffs for the Magistar (giving it equal IPS damage), then I'll be all over it.I heard ya the first time xDJust me stating me no likey that the hammer hierarchy goes Kitty>Fraggot>Maginerf Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AkerTheSpjot Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 I heard ya the first time xD Just me stating me no likey that the hammer hierarchy goes Kitty>Fraggot>Maginerf My bad then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freelancer27 Posted October 21, 2015 Share Posted October 21, 2015 The weapon could use an elemental attachment while it holds Physical damage, usually Radiation, to fit it with Oberon as a cleric stereotype. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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