[Pvp] Remove The Leave Conclave Button In The Reward Screen

[Storchenbein]

See title. It's getting extremely annoying. People leave as soon as the end screen pops up forcing others into an infinite loop of host migrations and doom, which can even result in you losing the match reputation and rewards.

 

There's enough time to leave in the intermission screen, just remove the confirmation prompt when you want to leave there.

Edited October 4, 2015 by Storchenbein

[Guest Pun-chee]

Yes, it definitely made everything (way) worse than before!

[JeyciKon]

yup, it needs to be removed, just make it so on the intermission screen you dont get insta match start if there is a host migration.

[Phasedragon]

Either that or change the netcode so that once the round ends, everyone is independant and isn't affected by host migrations until the loading screen, so that they can migrate at the same time as loading the maps.

[Pythadragon]

Yes.

 

Having an earlier leave conclave button at reward screen is good idea in theory, but bad in practice.

Edited October 4, 2015 by Pythadragon

[vGrayFox]

Thought I was the only one that noticed, at end of every match everyone leaves, or I am forever in host migration. Completely agree, bro!

[BoyTitan]

Or better yet add servers. I would love to host a dedicated server on this game.

[Feyangol]

They need to remove this option only for the host, that's all ...

Edited October 5, 2015 by Feyangol

[TheJadrimian]

Idea: Have the 'leave conclave' button on the end-screen not immediately pull you out of the game – at least if you're the host. Instead, make it delay your leaving until the results screen its over and the next level is loading. This way we only have one host migration, and it happens between levels, as part of the normal level loading screen – that'd be infinitely less annoying.

 

I also think it'd be good to have some indicator of who the host is – like a little crown icon by their avatar or something. Perhaps it would make people more hesitant to jump out, if they knew they were inflicting a host migration on the other players. Maybe.

[JeyciKon]

They need to remove this option only for the host, that's all ...

^this is a solution.

[Kontrollo]

I think the "Leave Conclave" button is great. Before that you had to wait through the next loading screen, then the host would usually leave anyway, taking the lobby with him (i.e. forcing the game to start). So if you wanted to leave yourself, you'd have to wait through yet another loading screen short of using Alt+F4 to leave yourself.

 

Now here's how I think the current implementation could be improved:

• The "Leave Conclave" button just marks the player (or maybe even only the current host) for wanting to leave before the next round.
  
• Leaving and, if neccessary, migration is then deferred to the end of the countdown and negotiated between the peers (current host last).
  
• Then the next lobby will consist of the remaining players only, and another migration is hopefully not necessary.

[Storchenbein]

I think the "Leave Conclave" button is great. Before that you had to wait through the next loading screen, then the host would usually leave anyway, taking the lobby with him (i.e. forcing the game to start). So if you wanted to leave yourself, you'd have to wait through yet another loading screen short of using Alt+F4 to leave yourself.

 

Now here's how I think the current implementation could be improved:

 

• The "Leave Conclave" button just marks the player (or maybe even only the current host) for wanting to leave before the next round.

   

   

• Leaving and, if neccessary, migration is then deferred to the end of the countdown and negotiated between the peers (current host last).

   

   

• Then the next lobby will consist of the remaining players only, and another migration is hopefully not necessary.

 

 

It certainly spares people from a lot of unwanted loading screens or migrations if they want to leave. Any change that prevents an endless loop of host migrations happening in the end screen is fine with me here.

[woah_dude]

but if u win and people start rage quitting, this loop provides free standing over and over and over again ;_; 

 

I like free standing ~_~ 

[JeyciKon]

but if u win and people start rage quitting, this loop provides free standing over and over and over again ;_; 

 

I like free standing ~_~ 

wait, what? really?

Edited October 5, 2015 by JeyciKon

[Storchenbein]

wait, what? really?

 

Yep, I had a double host migration in the reward screen yesterday, I received 2136 rep from the initial win, and then 2 additional times the same value after the migrations.

Edited October 5, 2015 by Storchenbein

[KriLL3]

Why? I say keep the button, but don't migrate host then and there and go back to reward screen, linger on it the same time as normal, then migrate host between reward screen and the "waiting for players" screen.

 

Frankly conclave's matchmaking is pretty broken, only allowing you to join conclave with public set, most timers and team balancing getting skipped if the host migrates, this problem with reward screen getting repeated if host migrates during it etc, and it's silly that the conclave match starts after the timer counts down even if there is just 1-2 players in the game, 1-2 players in cephalon capture and team elimiation isn't fun, should wait until there is a more reasonable number of players, with perhaps some option to bypass that requirement if it's taking too long to get more.

 

Oh and I really wish conclave didn't have hosts, they have such a huge advantage in fights it's ridiculous.

Edited October 5, 2015 by KriLL3

[JeyciKon]

They just need to do it like Feyangol said:

 

They need to remove this option only for the host, that's all ...

 

just remove the "leave conclave" button for host, so they can only leave at the intermission screen, at that time everyone else that wanted to leave already did, so we only get a single host migration.

[Phasedragon]

They just need to do it like Feyangol said:

 

 

just remove the "leave conclave" button for host, so they can only leave at the intermission screen, at that time everyone else that wanted to leave already did, so we only get a single host migration.

This is definitely the best idea yet. +1

[[DE]yatg]

They just need to do it like Feyangol said:

 

 

just remove the "leave conclave" button for host, so they can only leave at the intermission screen, at that time everyone else that wanted to leave already did, so we only get a single host migration.

 

Submitted this change today.

[Phasedragon]

Submitted this change today.

We did it, forums!

[JeyciKon]

Submitted this change today.

 

yay, thanks. :)

[Feyangol]

Submitted this change today.

Yey :-) .

I never thought that you'll do it, but this should be an easy way to solve this problem :) .

[woah_dude]

while DE is looking here, Conclave challenge of "Kill enemy on a killstreak" uses an old value of 5 man streak instead of new 3 man, meaning the message that a guy is on a streak is like cosmetic for game and it takes old value into account. 

Edited October 5, 2015 by b0_on

[iquaniqua]

Actually, i like it, people were asking to leave right away, maybe if you click it it takes you to the liset after the countdown when the next match starts, so you have 1 loading screen and there's no annoying migration in the reward screen

[rockscl]

this button has returned