[DE]Rebecca Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 May 28th: Hot Feedback Topics: A lot of these Hot Feedback Topics are the same as last weeks: https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/47095-may-19th-hot-feedback-topics/ I also suspect a lot of these will be discussed in Tomorrow's Livestream. 1) What now? Update 8 is here? Yes, it is! Thanks for sticking through the Hotfixes and playing Update 8! We have a Livestream on May 29th @ 2 PM EDT (tomorrow), and I plan on bringing up a lot of issues reported so we can come up with solutions and hear what the Devs have to say! Namely, this list: Resources and ideas moving forward! Thanks Fedor for this list of ideas: https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/52678-ideas-to-improve-resource-drop-system-in-light-of-u8/ Small vs Large Clans! What is our vision? Steve has put some thought into this and I expect we will talk in detail about it tomorrow. A brief answer is that he isn’t super happy with the current clan size issues, and changes will come. He says: "[Large vs Small Clans] is what we are working on right now. We do not like the current situation. We want to make tight knit clans more viable - around 50 members." Stay tuned to the Livestream to see us discuss this! If 50 seems scary to some, we shall discuss tomorrow as a group on the Livestream. Sit tight! The Void Drop Rates? Update 8.0.5 has made some fixes to the Drop Rates of the Receiver and Blade. See here https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/53908-805-its-getting-hotfix-in-here/ 2) Defense Rewards! Better on higher waves! Hellfires be damned, it’s time to ensure higher waves provide appropriate rewards. Scotty says: We will definitely review this. We see a lot of Hellfire mods and we see lots of people getting to Wave 50 +. Realistically the higher waves should give different rewards. 3) Update Notes - we want details! Yes, I think we should put more time into forming this list and adding important details to our players. Allow us to improve as the Updates and Hotfixes roll out. More to this list will be added post-Livestream, See here: https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/54116-may-28th-community-hot-topics/?p=566251 4) Where are our priorities right now? RNG? Forma? See DE_Steves latest post! https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/55421-update-8-related-work/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feldgrep Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 (edited) Yes. Thank you can't wait to watch the livestream. Also, can I get some info on the 1000 platinum giveaway ow whatever it is? Edited May 29, 2013 by Feldgrep Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetalGerbil Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 (edited) lots of potential. defense seems to be the only thing people do. not sure why they need more reason to do it but whatever the majority wants i suppose. ill go play in the other 90% of the game. Edited May 29, 2013 by MetalGerbil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Woonagi Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 (edited) AWESOME ! Defense fix, viable medium sized clans,one question : Will the forma cost for building rooms be removed/reduced ?Edit : As for Fedor's post, I really would like to see #2 ( Sentinel gathering mission ) implemented, because a lot of times i find that i rely on my shade too often and the game just because less challenging/less intense.Also, keep up the good work ! The only problem I have is with forma now, I went ahead and upgraded to hunter after I saw how you guys responded so quickly and efficiently to my friend's void key problem and I thought, man, the dev/support team do care, so I went ahead and dropped another $30 for the founder's pack , but then came forma's use in dojos and now... I'm not so sure anymore. Edited May 29, 2013 by Woonagi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mewtiger Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 (edited) Hows the staff feeling after this session of Hotfixing mayhem? Will the drop-rate on keys be tweaked at all? Oh yeah and is there any plans for a token-reward system? Edited May 29, 2013 by Mewtiger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pandasake Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 X.X I swear DE has the best interactivity with the community ever. ....EVER. Anyway :D Cant wait for the stream! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mak_Gohae Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Mats arent a problem the actual problem is Forma. People that complain about Mats are people that dont want to farm for stuff, people who run through missions hardly opening or breaking containers so if you adjusted to be easier on them thats just going to make it extremely easier for folks that do farm by breaking and opening anything. But i guess a resource booster you pay plat for is a good monkey making idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3XT3RM1NATUS Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Topic is so hot, the forums are gonna melt! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deek Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 1, I hope your not going to limit clans to 50? Im enjoying the clan im in. 2, im lucky if I can find a team that goes past wave ten, cmon tenno who play online you don't really die, try for more. 3, gonna try again for void key drops, still haven't got a key from drops I hope the fix fixed it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hybridon Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 I only wish to see 4-10 member clans possible, made of close friends, after all the game is a 4 man co-op squad, encouraging us to build up this squad as a clan is what I feel should be done. Other than that, and the Forma being used on dojo construction, you guys are just blowing my mind off each day with so much work you have put into this, no other complaints from me :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drakontis Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 1, I hope your not going to limit clans to 50? Im enjoying the clan im in. The maximum limit isn't 50, it's suggested that 50 might be a minimum to effectively build the dojos, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpartanChief1170 Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Small vs Large Clans! What is our vision? Steve has put some thought into this and I expect we will talk in detail about it tomorrow. A brief answer is that he isn’t super happy with the current clan size issues, and changes will come. He says: "[Large vs Small Clans] is what we are working on right now. We do not like the current situation. We want to make tight knit clans more viable - around 50 members." Stay tuned to the Livestream to see us discuss this! If 50 seems scary to some, we shall discuss tomorrow as a group on the Livestream. Sit tight! I would be interested in seeing what the average clan size is (would have been cool to see before/after update 8 due to the advantages of being in a big clan now. stupid hindsight). I have seen numerous people in the forums saying they have clans of 5 - 20, I am sure I have skewed data though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TraumaHunter Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 if 50 member clans are your target for balance then you will surely lose a HUGE chunk of support from the clans with 15 or less members.Hell most "tight knit" clans are less than 30 members unless they knew eachother from games where clans of this size could interact with each other at once for raids and the like.Warframe is a coop 4 player game. You can't play with more than 4 players at once - you should do well to remember this DE >_> This game needs to show care and acceptance for all player clan sizes. There have been dozens of topics that have talked about how it is impossible to grow their clans because there is no reason for a new player to join their small clan with nothing when they can join a large clan with everything already. There is no benefit to the joining the smaller clan of strangers to the player - thus smaller clans will never grow.You had best tread on these waters carefully...Signed - someone who loves this game and will be sad if you push me and the people I enjoy playing the game with away towards your "suggested clan sizes"... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
beol Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Warframe is a coop 4 player game. You can't play with more than 4 players at once - you should do well to remember this DE >_> This, as they say. If 50 seems scary to some, we shall discuss tomorrow as a group on the Livestream. It's not that 50 is scarry .. It's that 50 is unwieldy for a 4 player co-op game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeggyBundy Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 I don't see the problem, except for maybe the forma, we're small and still get stuff build. What I find more of an issue is that the clan owner can't demote or kick out warlords anymore. It highly annoys me to have someone on that position that now screws up things since dojo is there and I can't kick him or demote.... nor convince to leave.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TraumaHunter Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 This, as they say. It's not that 50 is scarry .. It's that 50 is unwieldy for a 4 player co-op game. I don't even have 50 STEAM friends - I have about 30 and I don't even remember/know all of them. Do you really expect me to interact with 50 people like family? Hell. Some people DO play this as a family. Sons + daughters with their Father + Mothers. You going to throw the family groups out the window too DE? >_> I'm not naysaying and I'm holding my tongue until the livestream. But REALLY - you should remember a very large portion of your player base is feeling betrayed right now. Throwing us out or telling us to change the way we have played this game so far because you "think 50 is a fine number for a clan" You are going to have a very angry group of players on your hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Volt_Cruelerz Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Hellfires be damned That phrase made me crack up lol. Anyways, great to hear and I'm really looking forward to it and I shall watch it even if it means doing so on my phone! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holdenagincourt Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 What I want to know from the devs is this: now that so much of the game's content is walled behind the clan system, and since even under the most optimistic predictions at least half a dozen to a dozen people will be required to make clan construction and research feasible, are there any plans to protect players who join clans from abuses of power on the part of warlords? The current system provides all players who are not warlords no rights at all, including no protections against being expelled from clans at any point in time solely at the whim of the warlord. At the same time, the monumental resource, credit and forma costs make joining clans larger than just, e.g., a small group of real-life friends--again, to access the new content only available through the clan system--effectively a requirement. There has to be a way to make clan management possible for the clan leadership but still protect the vast majority of players from losing all of their resources (sunk costs) and future research benefits (opportunity costs) at the caprice of a single individual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
austinrelis Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 (edited) You forgot platinum pricing and the fact that 3/4 of the community is not okay with it and will not spend is discouraged from buying and spending platinum for this specific reason. Edited May 29, 2013 by austinrelis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheErebus. Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 DE. You make mistakes. You make a lot of people get all angry over some changes. But you always make sure that the community get heard. You have the best interaction with us. We all thank you for what you've done. -Erebus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
o_HiTMaN_o Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 (edited) thanks Rebecca !! can you please check this thread ?? https://forums.warframe.com/index.php?/topic/40146-help-fix-nyx-that-rhymes-need-devs-to-notice-asap-wow-over-50-rep/ it contains everything we want for Nyx ... please i dont want to spam the live stream like the previous one ... ( IS NYX GOING TO BE FIXED ) so please check this and talk about it in the Livestream Edited May 29, 2013 by o_HiTMaN_o Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sikab Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 So Frost Prime promised Exclusivity isn't Hot enough for DE? Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shion963 Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 He says: "[Large vs Small Clans] is what we are working on right now. We do not like the current situation. We want to make tight knit clans more viable - around 50 members." Stay tuned to the Livestream to see us discuss this! If 50 seems scary to some, we shall discuss tomorrow as a group on the Livestream. Sit tight! I just hope 4-man clans would at least be viable, if tough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OrtuOcelot Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Good stuff shall come, well info, form this livestream (: LIKE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V0LK Posted May 29, 2013 Share Posted May 29, 2013 Some changes to Scorpions maybe? Tone down grabbing? Give them a charge up time, so we can dodge it? No? Okay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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