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Syndicate Effects Breaking The Will To Play With Other Weapons


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It's pretty simple, give a way to all weapons have a syndicate effect or remove it from the game.

 

I feel underwhelmed now when I play with a weapon that doesn't have the effect.

 

Why should a play with Dread, if I can play with Rakta Cernos that has an aoe effect and restore my energy? 

 

Why should I play with Drakgoon, if Sancti Tigris has an aoe effect and restore my life?

 

Why should I play any other Rifle, if buffed Supra has an aoe effect and restore my energy? (ok, Tonkor is a exception)

 

The truth is: I don't fell glorious playing any non syndicate weapon anymore, maybe it's only me, idk.

 

Please, don't say that syndicate effects are marginal, that is not the point.

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Why shouldn't u play soma p?

For me it is still the best riffle in the game... and it AIN'T a syndicate weapon.

Every weapon is good if modded correctly. Sure some can't go to that 100+high level moobs but it's supposed to be like that. There are some that are gods on low level and bad on high level yet those are the most fun. If u play just for playing and to win then u won't be happy. You will loose interest on the game. Play what is funnier...

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Why shouldn't u play soma p?

For me it is still the best riffle in the game... and it AIN'T a syndicate weapon.

 

Check some damage charts, I put 6 forma on Supra and the thing is a beast, toe to toe with Soma Prime, but guess what, Supra has a syndicate effect.
 
If only bad, bad weapons had the syndicate effect, I could get over it, but that's not the case AT ALL.
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Play what is funnier

 

Yeah exactly.

 

I mean, I have fun killing high lv mobs with my Lecta.

 

Edit: And I also don't like most syndicate weapons types. And I sure prefer Paris Prime/Daikyu over Rakta Cernos.

 

Syndicate Blasts are just utility for me, nothing else. It's good to clear a bunch of baddies when you need it. I don't play with syndicate weapons for the Blasts only.

 

That's what you get when you're given slight boosts of power, you get used to it, and when you have to revert back to no boost, you get sad.

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I use what feels good. As cool as the vulkar is with its syndicate effect, I'd use my good ol snipetron over it because it feels better. As cool as the sobek syndicate effect is, I still don't want to replace my seeking force with it. As awesome as the vaykor marelock is, I prefer my akvastos. The effect is cool, but I don't absolutely need it. As much as I miss the aoe when I'm not using these weapons, I prefer the weapons that just feel better to play.

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Even though most of the syndicate weapons are powerful, none of them gives me feeling of "shredding my enemies into piece" like the Kohm does.

 

Now if you're relying on the restoring ability of the syndicate weapon like an addict then you're not really fighting on the edge.

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If syndicate effects lost the stupid 25m explosion (or decreased it to 10 meters, or even removed the damage but kept the proc), that would go a long way to balance. As is, Truth bombing entire armies at wave 30 in T4D is way too satisfying, Blight is like a pocket Spore, Sequence is Nyx-in-a-can, Justice is finisher-city...etc, etc. Small self buffs, ok, self restores, ok, a free, regular effect surpassing some ultimate moves, not ok!

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you worked HARD to get to mastery rank 12 to get those weapons, so why shouldn't they feel glorious and amazing? it's not a problem that needs nerfed you baka, it's a reward for making it this far and a reason for other players to strive for at least rank 12 mastery. stop crying out against good ideas without thinking about it as a whole. just because you were above mastery rank 12 and it was nothing special to you to get those weapons doesn't mean it isn't a HUGE deal for a newer player who reaches rank 12 and says OMG I CAN GET ONE NOW! do not take away the joy of getting to mastery rank 12 and finally being able to get these primaries just because you didn't ever have that experience and don't understand the work put into it. also if you nerf them and make them like any other weapon then plenty MORE ppl will be mad that they worked so hard to get sub-par syndicate weapons.

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you worked HARD to get to mastery rank 12 to get those weapons, so why shouldn't they feel glorious and amazing? it's not a problem that needs nerfed you baka, it's a reward for making it this far and a reason for other players to strive for at least rank 12 mastery.

I never said NERF, NERF, NEF, what I asked was a simple a way to ALL WEAPONS have a syndicate proc or something.

The STATS of syndicate weapons are motive enough to be using it, surpassing the vast majority of common/dojo/prime weapons.

If you are ditching Vaykor Hek, Sancti Tigris or even Sobek to play Boar Prime, ok, have fun, but you are underperforming the way is now.

3 of top 5 dps weapons are from syndicates and this without even considering syndicate procs! There is no prime on top 5 dps weapons, so, congratulations, the game is pretty balanced, fun and we have nothing to change or even discuss, "baka".

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I never said NERF, NERF, NEF, what I asked was a simple a way to ALL WEAPONS have a syndicate proc or something.

The STATS of syndicate weapons are motive enough to be using it, surpassing the vast majority of common/dojo/prime weapons.

If you are ditching Vaykor Hek, Sancti Tigris or even Sobek to play Boar Prime, ok, have fun, but you are underperforming the way is now.

3 of top 5 dps weapons are from syndicates and this without even considering syndicate procs! There is no prime on top 5 dps weapons, so, congratulations, the game is pretty balanced, fun and we have nothing to change or even discuss, "baka".

I am sry my friend but that is just impossible and there is no way that that will happen. They have syndicate procs cause they are syndicate weapons. So why make all of the weapons like that if you Can't even put all of the weapons on the syndicates. Even if you can it's jsut way too stupid. I won't and I bet You Won't even have the hard time of trading plat for weapons just for mastery cause you can't have all the 6 syndicates at the same time ( theorically cause it's just a pain in the *** ).

You all talk about supra, I talk about soma, you all talk about vaykor hek, well hek is hek and will always be Hek, you talk about vaykor marelok, I talk about brakk. You really think they are that good? Dam dawg, then you don't even know half of the weapons on the warframe.

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I am sry my friend but that is just impossible and there is no way that that will happen. They have syndicate procs cause they are syndicate weapons. So why make all of the weapons like that if you Can't even put all of the weapons on the syndicates.

When I talk about ALL WEAPONS have syndicate proc, of course I'm NOT TALKING ABOUT PUT ALL WEAPONS IN SYNDICATES, this is plain stupid.

There are plenty of ways to do that, like a universal weapon mod for each syndicate or something, you would be trading a damage mod for a proc for instance, don't be so limited in your thoughts!

And sorry, but I'm not a noob, I have all weapons mastered and I already compared Soma and Supra on the last page. Vaykor Hek is superior to Hek but your comparison is invalid, since both are syndicate weapons!

Rakta Cernos, Vaykor Hek and Sancti Tigris are the top dps weapons in the game currently and still have a proc, try them, you will love!

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I have all of those weapons formaed and loved a lot, still I play with my oldiesh Hek for the fun of it. Why always are you guys going after the Best of the best? That is just stupid if you Do have all of the weapons mastered then you surely know how boring it is too play with the "best weapons" of the game. And soma does do more damage my friend. Headshots are priceless and you won't have them with a supra. Also Rak Cer may be good but dread is red love and red life. Personally I play dread for infested, cer against corpus and paris on the void cause of their status ( have a look at them ). Sancti tigris is the shotgun with the most dmg sure but I only use it against infested cause of that slashy stat so gorgeous. Hek well. "Hek will always be hek. "

If you want a sugestion read this: If you continue your quest after the Best weapons of the game thenn you will surely be bored after some time. Believe me I went afk for half an year when rhino p came with that Boltor P... it was just too stupid... so much power on our hands...

From a long time player to a Possible other, Play for the fun and not for the "Game".

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I love the syndicate buffs - the procs help of course but all of a sudden amongst the wave of Dragon Nkanas and Scindo Prime weilders they see a Banshee called Skode tearing enemies apart toe to toe with them using PRISMA DUAL CLEAVERS!

 

Ive been having a blast with a Jaw Sword, Supra and even finally got round to building a Furis just because of syndicates... are any of those OP even with syndicate buffs? Sure Vay Hek and Sancti Tigris are demons but theyre MR 12 for that very reason.

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If you can't read, it's not my fault, I never said NERF, NERF, NEF, what I asked was a simple a way to ALL WEAPONS have a syndicate proc or something.

The STATS of syndicate weapons are motive enough to be using it, surpassing the vast majority of common/dojo/prime weapons.

If you are ditching Vaykor Hek, Sancti Tigris or even Sobek to play Boar Prime, ok, have fun, but you are underperforming the way is now.

3 of top 5 dps weapons are from syndicates and this without even considering syndicate procs! There is no prime on top 5 dps weapons, so, congratulations, the game is pretty balanced, fun and we have nothing to change or even discuss, "baka".

Hi. Which has more use, telos Boltor or Boltor prime?

Also, sobek is better without the card. Cards useless and waste of a slot. Stats beat procs 90% of the time. And yes, my favorite BOW (**** you spellcheck) is Paris prime. (Check my profile, I've tried all the bows ingame)

Would you mind listing the top 5 dps weapons as well as citing the sources? You gotta give a base to baseless facts to make them reputable

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Maybe that was the case in the past, but now you sit in Draco or Akkad, and do syndicate dailies. If you know what you're doing it'll take you less than a month to get there, and even less if you invest some platinum for rushing/slots.

With a need for 360,000 rep, it'd take quite a bit. If you were to just leveling weapons, you would need to buy/build 115 weapons(you already have 3 starter weapons and 1 starter frame remember). If you were to build all the frames, including primes there and vaulted(Excalibur p not withstanding)(3-6 days per frame) you would still be 135k rep away(45 weapons more) so it's no cakewalk reaching MR 12
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