BloodfireSouls Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Hello again, warframe forums. It's been a while since I posted, but recently I saw something in one of the recent hotfix notes that exited me greatly, Daikyu changes. Or, fix, idk, forgot what it was. The Daikyu has been one of my favorite weapons for a while. I love it's design, and the damage is relatively high. And before you go ahead and say it, yes, I know it is far outclassed by the dread and paris prime, but that doesn't mean I can't like the weapon. The only thing I thought was strange about it was this small delay in between firing, and drawing my next arrow. It made the weapon feel really clunky and slow. Now, I can't remember exactly which patch it was, and I don't remember if it was a bugfix or an actual change, but I recently saw in one of the hotfix notes that the Daikyu can now begin drawing the next arrow right after it fires, same as the other bows, which to me, makes a WORLD of difference. Its crazy how such a small thing can take a weapon from "Meh" to "Oh, this is soooooo much better" But again, please don't bother telling me "Dread and Paris P are better" Because I know. Maybe I'm one of those people who is fond of status weapons, but I honestly think that status and CC will take me more places than straight damage. Just my opinion, everybody is entitled to theirs, but I'll stick with my Daikyu regardless of if dread and paris do more damage than it. Anyways, thanks for reading, I appreciate you spending time to read my post, and I'd love to know if there's anyone else out there besides me who likes the Daikyu and thinks this change to it is great. Thanks again for reading, and good luck farming for whatever you're after! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rydian Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 I'm not a fan of the weapon, but it getting that fix to bring it in-line with the firing mechanics of bows in general is a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Misgenesis Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Id say Daikyu is right behind Dread, if not on par. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoIaris Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 The fact that it fires much quicker now makes it better than the dread in certain situations, mainly endless t4 missions as when the dread begins to 3-5 shot enemies the daikyu still two shots by the procs that status weapons have and the 100% stat chance on certain daikyu builds Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motorfirebox Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 I really enjoy using the Daikyu, even though it's not as effective (in my opinion) as Rakta Cernos, Dread, or even Paris Prime. It's just more fun, and this fix makes it even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)TheMadCash Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 I choose Daikyu over Paris p. Daikyu is freaking awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LABAL Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 exited me greatly Gotta remember that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SweetSlaanesh Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 I really enjoy using the Daikyu, even though it's not as effective (in my opinion) as Rakta Cernos, Dread, or even Paris Prime. It's just more fun, and this fix makes it even better. Guys, stop saying "opinion". It's not an opinion. It has a lower potential damage as the other bows. It is empirically less effective, it's not a matter of opinion. The are other soft aspects that can be subjective, like the feel of aesthetics of an object. But not the math. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tulzscha Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Moved to the proper section. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motorfirebox Posted February 11, 2016 Share Posted February 11, 2016 Guys, stop saying "opinion". It's not an opinion. It has a lower potential damage as the other bows. It is empirically less effective, it's not a matter of opinion. The are other soft aspects that can be subjective, like the feel of aesthetics of an object. But not the math. Which is why I said "effective", which is a matter of both numerical potential and the facility of the person using it. In my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Smooth81Criminal Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 (edited) Hello again, warframe forums. It's been a while since I posted, but recently I saw something in one of the recent hotfix notes that exited me greatly, Daikyu changes. Or, fix, idk, forgot what it was. The Daikyu has been one of my favorite weapons for a while. I love it's design, and the damage is relatively high. And before you go ahead and say it, yes, I know it is far outclassed by the dread and paris prime, but that doesn't mean I can't like the weapon. The only thing I thought was strange about it was this small delay in between firing, and drawing my next arrow. It made the weapon feel really clunky and slow. Now, I can't remember exactly which patch it was, and I don't remember if it was a bugfix or an actual change, but I recently saw in one of the hotfix notes that the Daikyu can now begin drawing the next arrow right after it fires, same as the other bows, which to me, makes a WORLD of difference. Its crazy how such a small thing can take a weapon from "Meh" to "Oh, this is soooooo much better" But again, please don't bother telling me "Dread and Paris P are better" Because I know. Maybe I'm one of those people who is fond of status weapons, but I honestly think that status and CC will take me more places than straight damage. Just my opinion, everybody is entitled to theirs, but I'll stick with my Daikyu regardless of if dread and paris do more damage than it. Anyways, thanks for reading, I appreciate you spending time to read my post, and I'd love to know if there's anyone else out there besides me who likes the Daikyu and thinks this change to it is great. Thanks again for reading, and good luck farming for whatever you're after! I personally love the Daikyu and am so excited to hear of this fix. I don't remember seeing it in any fix notes but I'll look again. Thanks for the heads up! Guys, stop saying "opinion". It's not an opinion. It has a lower potential damage as the other bows. It is empirically less effective, it's not a matter of opinion. The are other soft aspects that can be subjective, like the feel of aesthetics of an object. But not the math. It actually doesnt have a lower potential damage than other bows. There is a BIG difference btwn status and crit. The other bows excel in crit damage while the Daikyu excels in status. Coupled with the higher puncture damage, it is actually quite effective against higher level enemies and this is coming from someone who doesnt use any other primary or secondary outside of a bow. I bring the Daikyu with me in every nightmare LOR and I can one shot just about every single nullifier, where as the Paris will require multiple shots. This is a good weapon. So yes, your point IS an opinion. Just because a weapon happens to deal more status than crit doesnt mean it is ineffective. Diverse is the word you're looking for because its different. Edit: Looks like the charge is not yet fixed for console. So I'll be looking for that fix in the future. Thanks again for the heads up! Edited February 12, 2016 by (PS4)Knuckles2184 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darthmufin Posted February 12, 2016 Share Posted February 12, 2016 Guys, stop saying "opinion". It's not an opinion. It has a lower potential damage as the other bows. It is empirically less effective, it's not a matter of opinion. The are other soft aspects that can be subjective, like the feel of aesthetics of an object. But not the math. Or like how most people hate the kraken but i love it because i can land both shots on the head of an enemy, making it objectively more effective due to how i play? Effective =/= math, it also means how the weapon functions in relation to the player's skill or how they play. If they can get more headshots, more CC, or feel better when using the Daikyu, but they hate how the dread feels or sounds, they will prefer the Daikyu and feel it's more effective for them. so yes, it IS an opinion. "feels" in games may not be important to you, but to most people it is, and the fix to the Daikyu reflects that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
METAHUMVN Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 (edited) On 2/10/2016 at 7:18 PM, BloodfireSouls said: Hello again, warframe forums. It's been a while since I posted, but recently I saw something in one of the recent hotfix notes that exited me greatly, Daikyu changes. Or, fix, idk, forgot what it was. The Daikyu has been one of my favorite weapons for a while. I love it's design, and the damage is relatively high. And before you go ahead and say it, yes, I know it is far outclassed by the dread and paris prime, but that doesn't mean I can't like the weapon. The only thing I thought was strange about it was this small delay in between firing, and drawing my next arrow. It made the weapon feel really clunky and slow. Now, I can't remember exactly which patch it was, and I don't remember if it was a bugfix or an actual change, but I recently saw in one of the hotfix notes that the Daikyu can now begin drawing the next arrow right after it fires, same as the other bows, which to me, makes a WORLD of difference. Its crazy how such a small thing can take a weapon from "Meh" to "Oh, this is soooooo much better" But again, please don't bother telling me "Dread and Paris P are better" Because I know. Maybe I'm one of those people who is fond of status weapons, but I honestly think that status and CC will take me more places than straight damage. Just my opinion, everybody is entitled to theirs, but I'll stick with my Daikyu regardless of if dread and paris do more damage than it. Anyways, thanks for reading, I appreciate you spending time to read my post, and I'd love to know if there's anyone else out there besides me who likes the Daikyu and thinks this change to it is great. Thanks again for reading, and good luck farming for whatever you're after! Edited April 7, 2016 by Pocalypse ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
letir Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 Just now, Pocalypse said: I like the Daiyku just as much. It's also interesting to note that in all the forums people keep saying that the Dread has more damage...well, try using the Dread against a Sentient and it will make quick work of you. A lot of these players don't realize that the new enemies introduced in Update 18 (namely the Shadow Stalker and the Sentient "Cysts") are designed to take down players who believe in crit builds. It's time for the players to change their strategy and focus on weapons with pure, raw damage. And charge time? Seriously? Put a freaking charge mod on it. And wanna forma it? Get smart, 4-5 forma it and you'll probably be able to put at least 15,000-20,000 raw puncture "armor piercing" damage on a Daiyku. I don't get it when people like to use bows like shotguns. I mean, they're bows. You only fire at full charge. That being said everyone should use the weapon their inspires their inner ninja the most. But I just don't like how people keeping talking so much trash about the Daikyu. Noobs maybe? How excatly Sentients and Shadow Stalker negates crits? How such a bad charge of Daikyi can be better than other bows? They at least can hold charge. What did you mean under "armor piercing damage"? Only Slash and Toxic procs can ignore damage, only Corrosive proc can destroy armor. Even hear about critical headshots? Red crits? Final question: Noob maybe? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S0V3REiGN Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 So much misguided opinion on this thread. I get that you all like Daikyu and I do too but it's not remotely close to being on the level of the dread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrVonTuckIII Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 Still prefer Rakta Cernos, but still nice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Zashukitsune Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 The daikyu was THE first weapon I ever crafted...didn't realize the learning curve sadly and, while I loved the feeling of strength behind every shot, I dumped it forever ago....but the update will almost certainly see me bringing it back again. Even if it's not as powerful, it looks and feels twice as strong as the other bows. Good thread, OP, thanks for bringing it back to my attention. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bloodskll Posted April 7, 2016 Share Posted April 7, 2016 I remember reading this in the update notes I can't remember when exactly but it was definitely after update 18 when they fixed the issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hukurokuju5 Posted April 8, 2016 Share Posted April 8, 2016 design is nice. feel is nice. power feels weak though. plus status on a slowfiring singlefire IPS weapon..... not that practical.... but stylin' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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