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    Update on the Mirage Eclipse Changes

    in Developer Workshops

    Posted · Edited by Mimolette

    Huge huge huge thanks to you guys for reverting the changes to Mirage. You've done right by Mirage mains!

    And while I can now celebrate this incredible outcome for my favourite frame, I'd also like to chip in and mention that the subsumed version is still a bit too low.

    It is definitely in the right direction, but considering how Roar can affect the squad natively, as well as provide a stronger buff via double-dipping and covering other damage sources, I do feel it is fair to bring it up closer to Roar. It makes sense it should be a bit weaker as there is the flexibility of running DR, but realistically no one at high levels will use it.

    On that note, maybe you can take a look at Chroma too and give the frame a similar treatment.

    Overall, super happy with the changes regarding Mirage, but subsumed Eclipse could be a bit better.

    Thanks again.

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    Eclipse Update (Dev response)

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    5 hours ago, Weapon_11 said:

     

    While the damage reduction can be good, this does not necessarily translate well into endgame content. We have already seen how 90-95% damage reduction fares into high level SP content - 1 or 2 shot deaths. In these situations, it is better to get rid of enemies before they overwhelm you.

    Yea sure, the update will make the new Eclipse more reliable, but even a low value of the old Eclipse that was multiplicative, would still outshine the new max value Eclipse that will be additive. I'm not usually one to post on forums, but since we are all here to discuss, I thought I'd pitch in fellas.

    Definitely. In endless SP or the Circuit, Arbitrations and Archon Hunts even, enemies deal heavy damage especially if you're surrounded. Combine that with Mirage's small health and shield values (which are usually best left alone to make space for damage and KPM boosting mods) and it pays to not get hit, by killing enemies faster than they can kill you.

    As janky as it was, some players who've played with Mirage or Eclipse extensively would play tactically with the lighting system, i.e. fight in brighter areas going so far as to even memorise the optimal sweetspots across Warframe's randomly generated, but set tiles. I realise not everybody does this, but I hope it shows a very possible example that the old Eclipse lighting, despite being fundamentally unreliable, could still be made decently consistent in an actual in-game scenario.

    What troubles me the most is how it affects Mirage more than most. I absolutely adore the frame (my favourite out of the 55 warframes we currently have) and Mirage has been my problem-solver warframe for many problems that need solving. I've always been entertained by the weapons platform playstyle, which can be skyrocketed all the way to level cap with some tweaking. Even when not running endgame content, it feels great to use alongside other weapons that are unique and fun to shoot, but fall short in late game. Eclipse has helped these lesser-used weapons find a better place, and even though the playstyle is 'simple', is why Mirage will always be fresh to me as there will always be new weapons to try out.

    My voice in this entire discourse comes directly from a place of love and appreciation for Mirage, and while I understand there needs to be some changes regarding the subsumed version of Eclipse, changing it natively on Mirage will do worse than what might be seen as "simply less damage". It hurts scalability, survivability, and frame identity.

    Still, I'll always be thankful for what Warframe has offered all these years, and I hope that we can all unite under a good resolution to this.

    Eclipse Update (Dev response)

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    I've also made another thread about this topic, in support of keeping the calculations the same with Eclipse natively on Mirage. It is incredibly sad to see your favourite frame suffer because of a reason that isn't tied to the frame itself, but more because of the Helminth subsume system.

    It is true that it would be very strong on other frames if left unchanged, and that is fine and understandable if the subsumable version of Eclipse is revised. However, Mirage's weapons platform playstyle and squishiness mean that the frame needs a good offense for a good defense, and making the native ability additive will inhibit Mirage's scalability.

    Yes, we are getting a toggle at full values, but at higher levels, 90% damage reduction (and even at the current 95%) will still hit very hard, and if you can only choose one over the other you'll be losing out on the damage that might make the difference as the more enemies are dead, the less you're being shot or clawed at.

    I have rarely felt so strongly about a change since I've started playing this game. It hits especially close because of how unwarranted the damage calculation change was. I was expecting a rebalance but more so along the lines of reducing the ability strength multiplier, as opposed to making Eclipse additive.

    It shows that many Tenno are upset or feel very passionately about the proposed tweaks, and I hope despite the personal investments we can all provide some constructive feedback and a call to action for DE.

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    Eclipse Update (Dev response)

    in General Discussion

    Posted · Edited by Mimolette

    Hey DE. Hey all.

    Wanted to start off by thanking the devs for an amazing game that has surpassed a whopping 10 years, to which I can confidently say I've been around for almost 9! I'm a long-time player here who usually doesn't post stuff on the forums in regards to feedback, but if there was anything to bring up it would be the changes coming with Dante Unbound, specifically for Eclipse on Mirage natively.

    While I understand the need to adjust the numbers and even damage calculation of Eclipse as a subsume ability, changing the way it is calculated on Mirage will severely diminish the damage potential and, following that, Mirage's uniqueness as an amazing weapons platform. I can only presume such focus on Eclipse is because of its popularity (especially as a subsumable ability), which overshadows a closer look at Prism and Sleight of Hand, both of which are in more need of changes, but that's another story.

    There have been many changes in the past, many of which I've felt and understood the reasoning. Helminth abilities being diminished, Emergence Dissipate, Wukong clones using ammo, Bramma cluster revisions, Archon damage attenuation, the list goes on, but when it comes to Eclipse on Mirage, there are better ways than changing it from multiplicative to additive when the game already has so many sources of it (such as Arcanes, Base damage mods, many other Warframe abilities, etc.). 

    I wholeheartedly understand the needed changes for its subsumable version especially as it is now a toggle, but natively Eclipse should not be changed. Adding a cap makes sense, but changing the way how the ability is calculated reminds me a lot of what happened with Chroma, where a once popular frame has now become rarely seen. Again, the original design intention behind the Vex Armor change is understandable as the ability was made recastable, but even at lower lighting levels, Mirage's current Eclipse buff would be outperforming the upcoming revised Eclipse at full strength.

    Mirage is not the most popular frame, let alone in the top 10 according to the 2023 stats, mostly I assume because of the low survivability which makes sense given that with Mirage, the best offense is a good defense. Mirage needs to stay on the offensive backed up by incredible weapons buffing abilities, and making these changes to Eclipse will become more of an inhibition. Yes, you could toggle the shadow buff instead, but that means giving away a good damage amp which, when playing on higher difficulties, means you won't be able to sustain having all these enemies alive surrounding you, even at 90% damage reduction.

    I love Warframe and have been playing it almost daily since 2015. It is a game I've always come back to, and while there have been changes that have affected me for better or for worse, I've usually seen the logic and thought process behind it. I may not agree with some, but I accept it. The changes to Eclipse on Mirage however seem draconian, and I see that many players, at least in the Eclipse feedback thread, feel that Eclipse should be a toggle (which it thankfully will be!), nerfed on subsume (and understandably so), but with stats left unchanged on Mirage.

    I appreciate the effort and hard work and know it is not easy to maintain Warframe's balancing, but it would mean a lot to this Mirage main (and I'm sure many others) if DE took a second pass over it. 

    Thanks for reading!

     

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    Update 35: Whispers in the Walls

    in PC Update Notes

    Posted · Edited by Mimolette

    Looking forward to playing the new update! But:

    I wanted to enquire about the availability of the Pack Only items in the new Sanctum Supporter Pack, and while on that subject, those from past Supporter Packs like the Tenet Ambassador Skin. Will they be available at a later date? 

    The Sanctum Color Picker for example, is only available through the Supporter Pack, but if even the Tenet Ambassador Skin from 2021 is still not obtainable, better wording/visibility for these real-life currency pack items would be appreciated.

    Fish Trophy Stuck Behind Wall

    in General

    Posted · Edited by REKTifier_

    5 hours ago, Draggaggiggo said:

    From how you phrase it, it sounds like it should work but where exactly do you stand in the corner near the Void Relic segment? I can't exactly get my Warframe's back facing in the direction without leaving a small gap that it forces the camera up instead of back. Can you provide screenshots or images of how exactly you got it to work?

    For future preferences, I really hope they fix this issue so we wouldn't have to force the camera out of intended bounds just to fix decoration mistakes.

    Did you stand on it? Either way, here's a step by step, NOW WITH PICTURES!

    https://imgur.com/a/2n38WIt

    Fish Trophy Stuck Behind Wall

    in General

    Posted · Edited by REKTifier_
    Added step by step gallery

    Hey guys, I may be a bit late but I found a fix if any of you need it.

    Stand on the Void Relic segment, and have your Warframe's back facing the wall/corner. Once there, go into the 'decorate' setting. This should have the camera spawn outside the room where you can access these stuck decorations and remove them.

    This method currently works, tested it 3 minutes ago.
     

    EDIT: Step by step with images - https://imgur.com/a/2n38WIt

    Controller UI not working

    in General

    Posted

    I just got this issue when I was messing around with archwing controls. I have been using same customised control for a while too, and only decided to change things a bit because of the new controller support. And now, here I am, crippled out of my comfort zone missing my d-pads and a good few buttons :(

    Plz DE gods, notice us and fix for I never had such a gamebreaking bug, for me personally at least...

    End-of-mission screen lockup when using controllers.(with Possible workarounds)

    in General

    Posted · Edited by REKTifier_
    Found the patch, Update 22.5.1 should've fixed it.

    So...I don't think I've seen anything controller related to HUD bugs in the newest 22.5.0.1 update patch notes, though I haven't encountered the issue yet...perhaps it was not controller related, but other factors? Else they stealth fixed it, or I've been extremely lucky today.

    In any case, for those of you that don't know, the HUD bug is purely visual. You actually do keep the rewards, just maybe wait 10-20 seconds or so at mission end and then quit the game. Your progress will keep.

    EDIT: They did include it in the 22.5.1 update about an hour ago, must have missed it somehow...In any case, it says 'on return to Cetus' but I suspect they added a general fix. Will update if I encounter the bug again, but other than that, we're good fellow Controller Tenno ;)
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    What's your favorite stance?

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    I agree with Vengeful Revenant, Final Harbinger, Decisive Judgement and Tempo Royale. And the Broken Bull of Cleaving Whirlwind. That being said, I find Shattering Storm to be very underrated. Many of the slams feel very powerful, like there's actual momentum behind them. Smashing Fury is not that great admittedly, but Pounding Smite and Falling Rock are just amazing, especially with the Sancti Magistar.

    FRAME SMASH

    Pandero vs Euphona

    in General Discussion

    Posted

    4 hours ago, Beggining said:

    *Vasto Prime sits in the corner, crying*

    Vasto Prime: I wanna be a badass revolver too....

    *The (DE)ities notice Vasto Prime crying*

    (DE)ities: Don't cry my child. Soon™, Akvasto Prime.

    LF >> Very Long Ambulas Animo Farm

    in Recruitment

    Posted · Edited by REKTifier_

    Hey there all, so with the clan event, it's fairly difficult for solo/ghost clans with inactive players to obtain the gold trophy. I cannot seem to find anyone willing to go for around 47 Ambulas kills (for 270 points) and was wondering if anyone else wanted to squad up with me (though I can't host, I got bad Aus net). That said, I don't mind playing in lag.

    I will be free for the whole day tomorrow (currently 5pm, May 5).

    I can also go any frames and/or builds.

    IGN: REKTifier_
    Region: Oceania

    So...about Orokin Simon Says...

    in General Discussion

    Posted · Edited by REKTifier_

    You could always just keep pressing the switch until you get an easy combination (there's no time limit + unlimited tries).

    Else you could always grab a phone and record your screen.

    I've got a memory as good as a goldfish - 3 second loops haha, so that's what I'd do.

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