Sonicbullitt

You also have Xatas whisper too, Eclipse is unusable now as a damage buff, outside on mirage herself.

They nerfed it into the ground that's for sure, at the very least they should keep the DR and damage buff a 50/50 split, 30% damage buff is pathetic and unusable, over others. It is a useless ability now, outside DR for some frames and even then, Gloom basically replaces it at that.

It was a nerf, don't even try and lie. It is only useful now as a defensive buff and its still a nerfed version.

Naw not if the damage is going to be a measly 30%, the best way forward is a 75% split for damage and damage reduction, whcih is still a nerfed state compared to 90% and 400%+ damage buff on Mirage. Right now Eclipse has become completely useless as damage dealing ability and an ok damage reduction ability, DE has hit this ability far too hard.

That's a large part of the problem, they do note explain their methodology, this is why it always feels knee jerk and reactionary, rather that reasonably considered and most of the time it usually is. They just hear that something is wrong and do not take the time to understand why something is good in comparison to the rest. Too many helminth abilities are too situational and too weak, because DE is afraid of powercreep or something, despite the game being power crept into the DPS meta we have now for years. Destiny 2 for all its problems, always explains its reasoning when it comes to balance. They have set out goals and ideas for how abilities, weapons and powers should work within their sandbox and their roles within their games, they do this all the time in long blogposts. So not just the Devs but the community have guidelines and what to expect from them. DE on the other hand never changes things till backlash or huge negative community sentiment, very often.

Its a worse roar now, it really is disappointing what they have done to it, they said they wouldn't nerf it into the ground and totally did, its a very scummy thing to do. Not to mention they also nerfed nourish, so many meh abilities now, everything is watered down. DE has bad mentality of nerf first, instead of actually looking at other underperforming things, its always kneejerk reactions, they're terrible at it and it just creates negative energy for no good reason. Its duplicitous, they knew the community would hate such terrible changes and they even said they wouldn't hit it that hard, but of course lied about it.

So they just lied, about not nerfing it into the ground....right.

Its a bug, I posted about it as soon as I got in game, its in the known section now.

Its a bug, I was the very first one that posted about this, its been added to the known issues section, they're on it.

They're on it, I have this problem too, its now been added to the known issues section.

yeah my syandana is borked too Edit: They've added this to the known issues section, they're on it, well done boys!

Yes thats exactly it, glad I'm not the only one, so far as my testing goes it only seems red is having issues but idk, I need to to do a little more testing, to see if other colours also have issues.

did your energy channel colours change ? Mine complete broke, they went from red to pink, all my reds on my energy for all frames.

https://imgur.com/a/g2zqAC6 Edit: It seems all energy channels are broken now, red shows up as pink, the whole thing is borked and I have no idea what they did, no problems till this update. Edit 2: It seems the colour red itself is broken and is appearing as pink, I removed every colour but red on the energy and its pink, doesn't matter what shade.

Exactly what I wanted to mention, I see no positive changes or improvements here outside bugfixes and the drone, so this is very disappointing. Having to run all the way back through the slow ass gate, sucks. This really should be available from the tent.

Agreed, they don't even half of what the firearm incarnons do. It seems quite clear they put very little if any thought into the melee weapons, its disappointing cause melee has been quite neglected for a good few years now. While I love the guns and current meta, melee needs some QOL.

I apologize, I assumed most people on the forums atleast read the patch notes.

Melee incarnons are already all "meh" to garbage tier, I cannot for the life of me understand why DE would nerf an already mediocre weapon. It's not a huge loss ( for now) makes me worried about the guns, regardless these nerfs to the skana are ridiculous. I don't have it but I was looking forward to unlocking it in future, so this is really disappointing.