Atsia
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1 hour ago, Surbusken said:
I believe there are already several examples of the orbiter being brought into combat.
It hasn't. The Orbiter has no combat ability, it's far too important to risk losing. Thus why it always sits under extreme cloaking.
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31 minutes ago, Jokie155 said:
Valkyr. Since Eternalism means she was now always twisted and disassembled-reassembled I guess.
That has nothing to do with Eternalism. Her powers were always rage, what changed was her appearance.
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Yeah no, the guy basis for some of his theories is...flawed at best, wrong at worst.
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1 hour ago, (PSN)MYKK678 said:
6) There's nothing saying the Sentients can't "replenish their supply" either. The Void is poison to them, but the Void is the only way to get from Tau to the Origin System and vice versa. The Sentients were sent to Tau before they were ever Sentient. That 1 journey alone should have robbed them of the ability to procreate/replenish, yet Natah and Erra exist, Hunhows children. Sentients obviously aren't human, which means placing an idea like "procreation" on them is folly. If Natah and Erra exist, they've already found a way around the problem.
1 hour ago, Hexerin said:Correction to this bit: When the Sentients were sent off to Tau, they were carried there by a grand mothership. That mothership sacrificed itself to protect the Sentients from the Void's influence and effects. The entire rest of the Sentient race arrived in Tau unharmed, thanks to that sacrifice.
The whole losing the ability to procreate and whatnot happened when the Sentients came back to Origin. The Sentients that remain in Tau, as far as we know, are still perfectly healthy and doing whatever they're doing out there.
It's the other way around, on both accounts. The Sentients didn't travel through the Void to get to Tau, they slow boated there, building a Solar Rail along the way. They only traveled through the Void to get back to the Origin System, which is when Praghasa protected the rest of them so they only went sterile instead of straight up dying. The only means they have of gaining that ability to procreate more Sentients as individuals (Hunhow, Natah, Plains Sentient) is to take the Temple Kuva from the Unum, a secret that died with the Plains Sentient.
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1 hour ago, (PSN)ARC_Paroe said:
We also know from more recent lore entries that arent probably retconned that something HAPPENED in the sentient homeworld that caused problems. Hunnhow was part of the old war and stayed in the origin system, but erra and natah were born during the old war when the pain was its height. The old war festered in tau and eventually some were driven out of the tau system and died along the way - Thats how we got archons; Erra gave Ballas sentient cores that could be used to create amalgams of extremely powerful sentients. Its also how we got orniphexes and sentient warships in the origin system.
That's not the case at all. The Archon's are just Sentients that fell in combat during the Old War, nothing drove them out. And Erra didn't work with Ballas until now, Orphix and Murex are just Sentient units that also made the jump to the Origin System.
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5 hours ago, (PSN)IndianChiefJeff said:
As it stands, forced Transference through melee attacks isn't the most thrilling thing in the world, it's rather redundant.
Except that's the point. They specifically made it frame melee because they don't want general Operator/Drifter mechanics to overlap with Warframe mechanics. It's fine in a separate mode made to accommodate it, but Operator melee is explicitly a thing that's not going to happen, which means it's not going to happen for Drifter either.
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58 minutes ago, Sevenus. said:
usually DE uses already in-game tilesets for their prime trailers, i dont recall seeing this place on any of Earth's missions or plains of eidolon.
They do, but only in the sense of tilesets aesthetic. This is just the same as Oberon Prime trailer. It's meant to look like the Earth Forest, but not an exact tile.
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2 minutes ago, (PSN)MYKK678 said:
For the Holdfasts to exist as Conceptual Embodiments, regardless of which theory is correct, their origin required the ship to be in the Void. It is Unregulated Emotions mixed with the Void that triggers Conceptual Embodiment, that's one of the only true Facts that we have about it.
Yes, but you're hanging on there needing to be a living person from them to come from, when it easily could just have been their own consciousness continuing to exist in the Void . We also know that's possible from the Voruna Leverian where neither Tuvul nor Voruna were the direct source of the monsters that were spawning. Reality mixing with the Void in general causes funky stuff, emotion just gives a direction.
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1 hour ago, (PSN)MYKK678 said:
If the Zariman was found trapped halfway between reality and the Void, then its not "adrift". I'm not placing all my bets on a writers understanding of the word Adrift though, the lack of information is evidence itself. Is it not odd that nowhere in the records of the recovery of the Tenno does anyone, at any point in time, in even the smallest way possible, refer to the Zariman as being stuck between Space and the Void? The Orokin were constantly and obsessively researching The Void, given how it was their last best way to find Planets with resources. Yet this ship existing in both realities simultaneously was of no interest to them whatsoever? I'm not buying it. It requires much too far a leap in logic.
That's because it wasn't. The Zariman was never stuck in a hole, it's specifically been positioned there only recently by the Holdfasts.
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1 hour ago, Joezone619 said:
That means everything in duviri must have been seen or known by the drifter at one point or another when they were a child.
It doesn't, no. All Drifter did was get it started, but how it develops from there is happenstance and Wally machinations.
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16 hours ago, TheArmchairThinker said:
I mean, if we're talking about time looping endlessly, wouldn't some things don't exist like Mathila's children being birth or Teshin getting old because you would realistically loop through that day on repeat, preventing any birth or aging.
I believe if we don't know about calendar we would think the day loops between day and night without anything to tell how much time has passed
It's not that time is looping endlessly, native Duviri inhabitants just aren't affected by the passage of time. They know time passes, they have records of time passing. They just don't age and change with it.
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5 hours ago, Joezone619 said:
We've been asking for it for years DE.
DE also said no a while ago. It's specifically part of why they removed Void Blast, they don't want they kind of overlap.
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8 hours ago, DarknessNightshade said:
Official twitter accounts seem to only care about TennoCon and ignoring the thing everyone and their mum actually wants to hear about.
Most people are also aware there's nothing much else DE can say beyond it's worked on. Not only is it a tech issue, DE has to deal with renegotiating Sony, Microsoft, Nintendo, and Steam legal contracts. They can't do anything with getting the ok from the platform holders.
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32 minutes ago, SneakyErvin said:
But isnt the Zariman we are on, where the holdfast also are, the Drifter Zariman that emerged? Since the "original" Zariman was found long ago by the Orokin. So arent the Holdfast from the Drifter Zariman those we interact with? While the Holdfast from the tenno Zariman are truely dead and gone with all other adults and have been so for thousand(s) of years? Just as all angels are adults (and possibly kids) from the Drifter Zariman aswell that have succumbed to the void, and those from the original Zariman are just dead and gone.
No, at minimum the Holdfasts are all from Operator Zariman. Quinn specifically mentioned his cause of death was getting blasted by the kids. It's also Operators Zariman, though the main evidence for that is from one of the logs we recovered during the ARG, mentioned a showing showing that "the void also gives."
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4 hours ago, TARINunit9 said:
I always thought it was the Duviri citizens who look like Ballas, rather than the other way around, so of course Ballas would look like himself
The citizens look like how they were designed in the book. The aesthetic comes from Eularia.
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Thanks to the new TennoCon schedule page, we now know the next frame is gonna be "Halloween-themed". What do you guys think they'll make the central design for it? I'm betting something about the Headless Horseman since Reb was also excited that we're finally gonna have a frame that start with "D". Maybe for Dullahan.
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13 hours ago, wyck_hylycs said:
Umbra is not the first, but it is probably the first one that was a dax who fight with honor and therefore refuse to become a monster.
The literal point of Umbra is that he became a rampaging monster. Unwillingly.
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From this looks, isn't this the Jackel from the New War, not the regular boss fight?
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46 minutes ago, MaxTunnerX said:
Just to make sure I voice this - Im very disappointed that duviri is the current update instead of tau and the man in the wall. I dont want to repeat what I dont like about duviri, but on top of it all, its a complete sidetrack. It would have been much more logical and powerful if we had got tau now.
Why? There's no reason to go to Tau, and it would be more prudent to explain the brand new character and mechanics you just introduced to your story. Plus, we are exploring The Man in the Wall, every major update since New War has introduced new things about him and his interaction with the universe.
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2 hours ago, Lakais said:
There might be one possible problem with this scenario: Lotus/Natah
No, you're absolutely right in that Lotus is a case that raises questions. I'd assume her chamber is just shielded like void towers are, but there's not particular hint to any particular explanation.
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25 minutes ago, TARINunit9 said:
OK you and I are very clearly reading this differently. My interpretation is the Scholar came before the Drifter. Because the Scholar came before a lot of islands (namely Cornucopia) were shattered and floated away, islands that have already ceased to exist by the time Drifter starts going through his torturous time loops. That's the way I read it
An issue there is that Thrax already exists and has taken charge by the time the Scholar arrives. We don't really have any idea about when Drifter's torture cycle would have begun other than Thrax having to be in charge.
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5 hours ago, SneakyErvin said:
How do we know they are emotional aspects of the Drifter?
It was confirmed on Prime Time and a subsequent tweet, along with Acrithis as Curiosity, the Kaithe races guy as Pride, the prisoner we defend as Optimism, and the Bard as Loneliness. All intended to have their own spirals, but cut for time.
7 hours ago, SneakyErvin said:Where is that part of the story told? All of the duvirians are made in their image and I'm 99.99% sure that none of them are androids in the tale. And as I said, we also have Ballas on Duviri. If what you claim is true, then he would be full of real skin, since he is based on a real living person afterall, yet he doesnt have a single piece of flesh and skin anywhere to be seen. And it doesnt matter who created him, no matter if it is Kullervo, the Drifter or anyone else, whoever made him knew of him and knew he was a real living Orokin at one point.
All the Duvirans look how they look in the book, seen from the book decoration we got. The Warden is a particular case, yes, but that's just a case of them manifestating to fit into Duviri's asthetic as a default since they're from there.
5 hours ago, TARINunit9 said:See that's the thing: if you find all the lore codices it's revealed Duviri existed before the Drifter did, and that Dominus Thrax was not the first king of Duviri. There are things in Duviri that the Drifter manifested, but Duviri itself is not one of them
They don't? All the Lost Island fragments don't mention anything that would indicate Drifter wasn't there from the start. They really suggest the opposite since they specifically say they've only ever gotten two visitors to Duviri, Teshin and The Scholar. Kullervo non-withstanding. We know Drifter is the source of the people, and it's very much spawned from the Zariman with how many pieces of it the land is built around.
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16 hours ago, SneakyErvin said:
where the one armed children are manifestation coming from Thrax and the others are from the Drifter in order to cope with whatever they went through.
No, the children are from Drifter as well. Two of them being full on emotional aspects. Specifically, both of Mathila's children; the Tamm herder is Frustration and the conservation kid is Compassion.
16 hours ago, SneakyErvin said:It still wouldnt explain that he has physical human bodyparts, since at that point he would be created out of pure void as an emotional representation of the Drifter, just like presumably everything else "living" on Duviri.
Dominus has human looking parts because that's what the story character has. He's made in it's image, so he copies whatever it has.
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1 hour ago, (PSN)ARC_Paroe said:
Albrecht entrati burned wally in his deal, cheating the man in the wall out of his dues. The reason Albrecht never performed continuity is because if he DID, the man in the wall would take his due: A living body. WHen albrecht died of natural causes, his void-tainted consciousness died with him.
Except Albrecht never made any deal. He saw Wally and immediately booked it back to reality, never seeing Wally again. He's presumed dead, but we also just got lore that places him as making an island in Duviri and hanging around long enough to get an empty grave.
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Like every else said, that's not the Orbiter, that's the Landing craft. Which still isn't a combat vehicle, it's purely stealth and transport.