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25 minutes ago, Naroxas44 said:
Warframe doesn't override any power settings - the "high performance" mode in the launcher is solely GPU selection. This can be seen in the launcher's own log, as it's called "LauncherGPU" as the setting and you can tell which GPU it picks in the logs. Windows will still manage and handle all power distribution and Warframe will just request to the OS to perform tasks, like any other application would. Apps running in user mode just request the system perform an amount of work, and the OS handles everything else (scheduling resources from CPU, GPU, etc. to process those tasks). It does not have sufficient permissions to change GPU power settings whatsoever, and would not do so since you could be running the game with any GPU or OS (Win 7 to 11, any version of Linux distro via Proton / Wine translation layer, etc.). It can only request the GPU itself from device ID in this case, detecting all available GPUs and picking the "most performant one" manually if Windows is not doing so correctly.
I'd need more info like I said, even if it doesn't have stop codes there must be some cause for it but I don't think it's related to a game / app at all. It's likely something at the kernel or hardware level, as those are generally responsible for system crashes or straight up powering off if they have issues. From what yours sounds like, it could be thermals or wattage related if it's just powering off completely. The other user in this thread only solved their issue by replacing a GPU, which ideally we'd want to avoid since that can be expensive (or practically impossible, in the case of laptops / smaller form factor systems), so any additional info on it would help a lot.
well this started happening at the time of that patch, but I resolved the issue by boosting the power setting as I mentioned. To me it is very likely that it was caused by that patch, if not by that setting then perhaps some modification of hardware usage on a Direct3D library level. The only thing I remember is that prior to the system abruptly restarting there was no indication in the event logs of hardware malfunctioning. As I stated before, I played warframe without any issues with the same hardware for about 3 years up to that point. GPU motherboard and CPU temperatures were all on an acceptable level as well.
I currently have no intention of diving back into the problems to investigate, as I have already resolved the issue as mentioned before.
Thank you for your effort though
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On 2023-11-14 at 3:14 PM, Naroxas44 said:
I'd need more info about the crash stop code & some stuff, but I've never seen where it stated it changed any GPU energy / power configuration. The patch notes I linked are the first release of it too:
I'm not sure if using High Performance in Windows (which the setting of Warframe overrides) strictly enforces the use of a secondary GPU and not touch any of the GPU power settings.
The only thing I know is that since that patch happened, my videocard started crashing my pc consistently. Errors or stop codes are not reported as the system shut down unexpectedly.
Since then I could do two things which solved the issue: each time set Warframe to Power Saving mode and later I found that setting the power consumption of my video card in MSI Afterburner to 110% would let me play with the Warframe setting on High Performance without crashing.Logically it all pointed to the then newly introduced setting in Warframe.
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8 minutes ago, Naroxas44 said:
Just an FYI, the only thing this setting in the launcher does is choose which GPU you utilize in a dual GPU setup; it does not use any more power by saying "high performance" if it has always chosen a dGPU, and it's not intended to be an "energy / power mode", it's strictly choosing between iGPU & dGPU in the event that Windows attempts to pick and does so incorrectly. It also won't do anything at all if you only have one GPU in your system (i.e. no iGPU). Per the patch notes:
That's odd, first time I've seen this explanation.
Perhaps you can explain this:
On my system I only have one GPU.
When set to High Performance in Warframe, my pc crashes. (BSOD)
When set to Energy Saving in Warframe, it doesn't crash.
This is reproducible.Situation before Warframe added the option:
When set to High Performance in NVidia, my pc crashes. (BSOD)
When set to Energy Saving in NVidia, it doesn't crash.
This was also reproducible.I am inclined to believe this also changes the energy setting for the GPU as well and iirc it actually stated that somewhere when this was introduced (I remember to have read this back then).
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I've noticed this quite often now, whenever I play with other players and they have a metronome with a high frequency (not the tone, but recurrence) my fps drops from a v-synced 60 fps to ~30 when I get closer to them. This happens so often that whenever I'm in Circuit with them, I stay far away from them or leave early because for me the game becomes unplayable.
I did some testing in PoE and discovered that I also had the same problem while standing at the gate with my own metronome at a higher frequency.
My fps went from 60 to ~30.Today I decided to test this extensively and noticed that I do not seem to have the problem every time I try this.
I turned off v-sync and got to a fps of ~200 and when using metronome it stayed that way.I haven't been able to figure out what is triggering this, but I will run some more tests. Next time I notice fps drops because of this, I will turn off v-sync to see if that helps.
Any other suggestions are welcome as I've been having this same issue for at least one year now.
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On 2023-11-06 at 6:33 AM, Myantusk said:
I have been getting random CTDs while playing recently, being brought to the window about a hardware failure. My Game was running fine before now, and now my game has begun crashing anywhere between 5 minutes to an hour of uptime. I have checked for memory failure and I do not overclock, and my GPU doesn't exceed 80 degrees C. Any suggestions would be helpful
This happened to me too, but for me it started happening when DE forced us to start using high performance energy mode on the game. Since running it in energy saving mode never caused me any issues and the only thing noticeably changed was the power setting, I knew the problem had to be on Warframes end.
I went to my MSI Afterburner settings and set the power usage from 100% to 110%. My crashes went from guaranteed once per hour to once per 2-3 months.
If you don't have a MSI card, try manually setting the power consumption mode in Warframe to power saving and see if it crashes.Mind you, you would have to do this pretty much every time you start Warframe, because for some reason (bug?) the setting gets reset to high performance mode.
Hope this helps
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a years old annoyance, bumping this for obvious reasons
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On 2020-04-26 at 4:36 AM, TheLexiConArtist said:
"I can't 'Ignore the original objective' mom, I already completed it!"
It is annoying. It doesn't make sense on a single-act, binary objective like Capture; you cannot be partway into your objective and have plans change. You either captured them already or you didn't.
Compare that to other missions; Mob Def could switch up to exterminate/capture before the final console, Exterminate itself could switch off to capture halfway through clearing the enemy counts, etc. It'd be a change of ongoing mission flow, not an arbitrary extension to something that's technically already over.
On the other hand the mission type is a meta decision by the player often because they have some secondary goal in mind than mission completion itself. Nightwave tasks, Riven conditions, even farming resources or containers or Fragments. Having missions be more dynamic does upset this balance, possibly becoming frustrating if it's pulling the rug out from under people's ancillary goals.
old topic but still an active matter
I complete certain capture runs in around 40 seconds per run. I noticed that doing the extermination run turns my ~40 second runs into ~2 minute runs. When I capture the target I still usually have to travel for around 25 seconds to reach extraction which means aborting for me will have wasted about ~15 second + loading time which is for loading in and out together ~15 seconds. A complete restart wastes 30 seconds turning my one run which I aborted and restarted into a ~70 second run, still way faster than the average of ~120 seconds.
Because of this whenever it turns into exterminate I just abort and restart the mission.
I wonder if this is what DE wanted, at least they should have expected this... years ago when they introduced this-
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Just now, -AxHx-Vile said:
It was my decision to do so and it's DE's decision to change it. Like I stated, I don't like that my time was "wasted", but I'm glad there at least is a guaranteed way to get it now. It's better for all that still wanted it.
From the many years of playing WF and various other games that appear to be in "eternal development", I've come to accept these things. Over the years there have been various decisions DE has made that I didn't approve of, but unfortunately I'm not in control.true, but that's a different thing from something being fair or not
unlike you I got "rewarded" after having done hundreds and hundreds of runs and although I know that the effort required to get that item will diminish in the future, going from perhaps 1 other person a day getting it, in 1 day half of the Warframe community can have obtained this item with around 1% of the effort I spent getting it
I agree the token system is a good alternative, but again, being able to get it in one lousy day (because you need to wait for Anomaly respawns) to me feels like a slap in the face for the people that did go through all that effort -
3 minutes ago, -AxHx-Vile said:
You make it sound like DE requested you to do this. Keep in mind this was optional. I also spent a lot of hours trying to get it. Those hours were also "wasted". But it was my decision to do so.
do you think it's fair that you wasted your time and got nothing in return though?
because I don't, even if it didn't drop for you
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Just now, -AxHx-Vile said:
They've adjusted droprates / methods of acquiring certain items on occasion. Sure, it's not a very common occurance. But if it was, you probably wouldn't complain about it, since you'd just be thinking "oh here's the monthly drop change" 😉
And yes, that may have been the reason. But keep in mind they can change anything, at any time, for any reason. Doesn't make it any less annoying, but they can.
what im criticizing is the severe change of rarity, I expected it to be around 50-100 runs to work towards in getting the ephemera
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Just now, (PS4)Tekikko said:
The fact that I criticize your point of view in a respectful way does not imply that I have an anti-social attitude, especially because you do not represent the society of warframe players. Secondly, the only one who has responded offensively is you
I don't think you are respectful if you say it's fair when DE says:
we want you to invest around 50 hours to get item A
player invests 50 hours to get item A
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Just now, -AxHx-Vile said:
There have been things that were corrected after years. Of course I'd like to see things corrected / finalized much faster than that, which in some cases will happen, but in other cases it will take longer. It all depends on DE's priority list, whatever is on there. Wish I could take a look, but oh well 😉
DE usually doesn't "correct" these kind of things
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Just now, kapn655321 said:
Dissatisfaction with the RNG acquisition involved for a cosmetic also made people quit the game. It was because the small number of players who owned it that they knew something was wrong, that needed to be addressed. Damned if they do, damned if they don't.
that sounds like incompetence on DE's end
if they make a cache spawn in less than 1% of anomalies, which will take around 10-15 minutes to complete, and if the drop rate is less than 100%, wouldn't it be just plain obvious that only a small portion of the community would have it considering you would have to spend more than 20-25 hours to get it on average?
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2 minutes ago, Educated_Beast said:
Here I was thinking 15 runs was to many since I've already done significantly more than that.
Seriously man, it's time to re-evaluate your life goals. This is your fault for grinding that and no one else's. I took one look at that grind and said no way.
If someone has an exclusive and all proud about it (like lotus one when so many people got screwed out of on twitch drops), I just smile and walk away.
This is going to come as a surprise but someone needs to tell you. No one cares but you.
So it's my fault for investing the time DE wanted players to invest in getting a rare item, only to diminish the rarity of said item because too many players were crying about how rare it was?
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Just now, -AxHx-Vile said:
They might feel as entitled as you do.
And it won't matter.doing these kinds of things makes people quit the game, I guess the only reason they did it with Tenebrous was because the amount of people who owned it was small enough for them not to care
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Just now, Midas said:
I'd be down with them converting to a full on Token system, it is a good potential solution for both people that like to farm Eidolons/Trials/Bosses and those that want to casually play the game.
Tradable tokens for trials would allow trial lovers to earn income
tokens can be bought to get gear from trials without running it, although at a determined price.
im pretty sure DE likes RNG because of the gambling element which makes people addicted to playing
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3 minutes ago, Midas said:
Then let it be different with trials, in fact I am planning to write a feedback on the shop system, I think it is a good alternative to RNG. I just think the drop chance of Tokens from bosses/phases in Trials/New War should have drop rates for tokens. The shop would let you select the drop you wanted specifically like this system does.
The shop system in Warframe is a very good solution for a quick fix problem right now.
I agree the token system is a lot better, but then again I have been asking for a token system for practically every RNG element in the game for more than 6 years(prime gear, mods, arcanes etc...)
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8 minutes ago, -AxHx-Vile said:
Or someone just got lucky, got that Lich very swiftly, perhaps even as first or second, and decided to sell it.
Just like how you could've gotten lucky with getting the Ephemera swiftly. But you didn't. So be it. Neither did I.I wonder how people with 7/7 Lich ephemera's would feel if Liches spawned Ephemeras 100% of the time, that would be around equal to the effort you need to do for the Tenebrous right now
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Just now, Midas said:
Do you have a better solution?
Do you realize the number of people that got it the old way is probably under 10, even 5?This solution is wonderful, Digital Extremes done did a good here.
You can get a shard from completing the mission and killing 20 sentients from objective.
You can also do it twice in an hour.
4 shards per ship potentially.
I doubt there are less than 10 people that got it the old way, probably closer to 200
for the 100th time I don't mind them getting rid of the RNG element
but you can actually acquire the Ephemera in one day now, which isn't much of an achievement which was the whole goal of Ephemeras to begin with -
4 minutes ago, -AxHx-Vile said:
Clearly they changed their mind.
You'd have to ask DE, not me. Also where did you get the 30 hours from? If you really want a Lich ephemera, you can just trade for it and have it within 30-180 minutes.that means someone else still had to grind that +/- 10 Liches(10% spawn chance) for it
also average time for a Lich is around 3 hours for me(im usually not lucky on guesses) hence 30 hours -
9 minutes ago, -AxHx-Vile said:
You're playing a game that is in development. Things can change at any time. Some of these may benefit you. Some of these may not benefit you. Some of these changes you might love. Some of these changes you might hate.
Welcome to life. DE decided that the horrible way that you got it needed changing. So they changed it. In the future they might change it again, but I doubt they'll make it as grindy as you suggest it should be.
The new way to get it is better for everyone that still wanted it. I've spent somewhere over a 100 runs trying to get it and all I got was captura scenes. This way will still cost a decent chunk of time, but won't be as crazy as before. It's a good thing. Don't like it? Too bad. No doubt there have been / will be more changes you won't like either, and neither will I. Such is life.
clearly DE wanted the Tenebrous Ephemera to be the rarest Ephemera of all (I got 3 red caches in around 900 runs, I think I was really unlucky, average is probably higher)
so how come Lich Ephemeras are still +/- 30 hours per Ephemera while the Tenebrous just dropped from +/- 50 hours to +/- 2 hours -
13 minutes ago, (NSW)Belaptir said:
Yeah, that's pretty much what you are saying. Oh no, wait, you're saying "everything should be done to please ME, because MUH BRAGGIN' RIGHTS!"
the pot calling the kettle black
let me ask you one thing:
do you think it's fair towards the players who spent around a hundred hours into this that now everyone is able to get it in 1-2 hours of playing?
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4 minutes ago, (XB1)KayAitch said:
Yeah, but you weren't completing those missions were you? Join an anomaly mission, race to the anomaly, rinse every cache without waiting for anyone else, quit because you didn't get it and repeat, sometimes 5 or more times in a single appearance.
around 900 uncompleted missions which take around 3-5 minutes each (2700-4500 minutes total) vs 200 completed missions which take around 10-20 minutes each (2000-4000 minutes total) is fair imho
4 minutes ago, (XB1)KayAitch said:They were never supposed to get it that way. This weird obsessive behaviour should not be rewarded.
getting it in that manner while completing the mission would have taken thousands of hours, DE knows speed running is a method of obtaining drops in Warframe or are you saying they are ignorant?
4 minutes ago, (XB1)KayAitch said:[My emphasis] yup. You knew it was a buggy exploit when you did it.
nothing is a buggy exploit about aborting a mission, you can do the same thing in every other mission of warframe if you are looking for a certain drop, the rarity of the cache justified this type of speed running, it's not my fault some people are incapable of speed running due to a lack of skill/gear
9 minutes ago, (XB1)KayAitch said:200 is crazy, that will take most players over a year and even dedicating your live to the anomaly schedule the absolute quickest they could get it would be in about a month playing night and day, or two if they sleep.
no pain go gain, it was the rarest ephemera, not anymore
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14 minutes ago, (NSW)Belaptir said:
All I read here is "it's unfair that something I got in a game and has no value at all is now more easily accessible for the rest of the world". And it sounds incredibly selfish, childish and petty.
Also, point still applies: it's development 101. You got it the hard way, someone came up with a better way of farming to make it easier for the rest and you are salty because... because everything has to be about you? Uhm... I'm sorry to be the one breaking it up to you but the universe doesn't revolve around your personal feelings.
All I read is: I don't care other people are being treated unfairly if it gives me an advantage
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Got downed twice in a row from this, anyone know what weapon this is supposed to represent?