CaptainPancakes

Two of the patch notes since deep archimedea dropped.

This system is even more asinine considering it DOES currently give you weapons not even in your arsenal as part of the three weapons for each restriction. For instance I have a miter, twin kohmak, furis, and keratinos listed under my weapons for this week. I don't even own those anymore. Not only do they not refresh. You can get weapons you don't own anymore, and unlike duviri, you NEED TO.

Hell, I’d be willing to sacrifice an additional netracell charge, if the rng was really bad enough to justify paying for a reroll.

Yea that’s something I mentioned in my initial post as something you shouldn’t have to do. At that point you aren’t engaging with the system, you’re circumventing it.

My understanding is multiple runs are for if you fail. AT LEAST IN THE UI, when you select new parameters you didn’t select last run, the bar still fills from zero. Not from where your last run got you, and only fills completely if you select everything

Two things. First, to get max points and all rewards, you need to select everything at once. Apparently, you can not add cumulative points with repeated runs (selecting different parameters each run), which is why I suggested it in my post. So no. You can’t use whatever load out you want. Second. It is (ALLEGEDLY) not a daily reset. There was some weird stuff going on the first day with hotfixes and load outs having items players didn’t have (unlike duviri you actually need to own them). When they patched THAT apparently it redid everyone’s weekly load outs. So yes, considering these two things, there is a very real possibility of drawing an rng dumpster fire of mastery fodder. I beat elite no problem. This isn’t about difficulty, it’s about game design that can end up discouraging play.

From the notes "Loadout parameters reset weekly Monday at 0:00 UTC" The notes state "Loadout parameters reset weekly Monday at 0:00 UTC". So I'm wondering if something strange happened that made it refresh on this isolated occasion.

Interesting. The patch notes specifically state that it resets weekly. And make no mention of another way to refresh it. If there is refresh, it isn't clear, or is bugged, or is tied something inconsistent like unlocking elite for the first time or hotfixes.

The random loadouts work for Duviri/circuit for two reasons: they change constantly during the course of the week (be honest, allowing you to wait for items you've invested more in or are just straight up stronger), and because the decrees allow you to accumulate power and correct deficiencies. Neither of these vital factors for this type of gameplay are present in Deep Archimedea. These loadout parameters should refresh just like Duviri does. If not every few hours, at least daily. I LIKE the idea of being encouraged to use new gear and strategies. But not like this. I should not need to go grind gear up every week to make it useable. I should not be discouraged from engaging with content that occurs once a week because of rng. I should not have to circumvent the system by repeatedly running the mission with a squad, alternating a weak member (this is not engaging with the system, it is avoiding it). For that matter, I'm opposed to content that is designed for near exclusive multiplayer engagement. I am LR2, I've played this game since 2013. I engage with every late-game aspect of Warframe without issue. This isn't about difficulty. I simply don't want to be discouraged from engaging with content for an ENTIRE WEEK because I got unlucky rng. Currently, this content is at odds with the rest of what the rest of Warframe as a game encourages. EDIT: OR allow us to earn points for selecting loadout and modifier parameters individually, and cumulatively, over repeated runs, as opposed to requiring them to be active all at once. Currently, there's no point in doing repeated runs anyway, changing this would give repeated runs a purpose and allow players to trade additional time doing extra runs, for the ability to dodge a perfect storm of bad rng (seems like a fair trade).

I thought the same thing was happening, but I was equipping the same riven on two different weapons. I took kitgun and zaw rivens with the same "kill 4 sentients" challenge on a mission just now and both unlocked.

Topaz archon shard is still not working as stated. The crit chance on the heat secondary option rarely procs, and apparently expires on its own eventually without warning or mention.

Seems there's a couple ways to get stuck in the tactical menu, still. Completely ends the mission if you are solo. No way to enter another menu or do any inputs in any way. When it happens to me, the entire tactical menu is accessible but does nothing. If there isn't a nearby enemy strong enough to make you run out of revives, alt-F4 is literally the only way out.

Yep, still an issue

Yep. Still happening.