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im bumping this thread again because its christmas and im here to receive my present

I trust influencers about as far as I can throw them. I thought their hankering about explosive self-damage was stupid and disingenuous when they were complaining about that, and I think its stupid and disingenuous now.

-me and my boss talk- -say "i think it would be good if customer got free things. they said they want things for free because theyve been around a while" -boss says "no" -i walk outisde to inform the customer they wont be getting anything for free no matter how much time theyve spent using my store -he spits on me and tells me i didnt do my job of being 'his voice' properly I think you might want to like, punch a pillow or say "serenity now" a couple times or something to keep it together

The people who play this game make it hard for me to rationalize whether or not its deserved. My God. I hate comparing people's work critically, but Warframe players literally have to be completely clueless to say the S#&$ they say. Like you'd just have to take rose-tinted goggles off when looking at the way SE, Blizzard or almost any other popular MMO handles controversy to see how generous the monetization of WF is to players. How good they have it with the team they have when they've made relatively few mistakes and decisions that weren't well received compared to the accusations of greed directed at a CM.

Except in this analogy, nobody is tied to the track, and you can get up and step away at literally any time of your choosing. Oh, but you might miss the trolley, I guess...? There will be more; just make sure not to lie down on the track next time.

Theyre trying to make money. No, just giving everyone a refund probably isnt an option nor is it ethical or fair; as it also involves Steam, and is an entirely new set of issues to deal with in addition to also probably costing money to go through with in the first place. The entire thing would be a net-loss and while you may be fine with that, they obviously aren't. This should be obvious to you, but in addition to the issue of processing all of the refunds, theres the matter of the aya and platinum; which could have also been used or traded to other players. And yes, I agree. Someone grounded in reality could have told you that its not really worth it, and a huge majority of people will laugh it off due to the price alone; but then again they release Prime Access stuff all the time. For people who earn all their stuff through relics or trading you're spending comically large amounts of money on what is basically infinitely reproducable virtual piercings. I don't know who specifically is to blame for becoming out of touch, but I doubt it's anyone in this thread; and yet the message has obviously been received because they did "something." It just isnt what you want; so everyone is throwing a tantrum about it and making completely unwarranted accusations among other things. People need to chill. They're responding to feedback in a fair way, and the fact that theyre responding at all is a good thing.

Its easy to understand why people are upset, the issue is that people are expecting a resolution other than this one. Anything more screws over someone else. What they did was precisely the most fair thing they could have done given the circumstances. You have to know that they cant just give everyone a refund, and you also have to know that there are people who purchased the packs exclusively for the skins. If they allowed you to buy just the skin or one of them even, the people who purchased it or made sacrifices to buy it "on time" would have done so for no reason. That is what it means for it to be fair, or how it would be unfair to do anything else. The additional platinum is the only variable they can actively control at this point since people have made their decisions to buy or not buy the pack. The only thing they could do from now on is to price them more fairly in the future and maybe dont make them time-limited. That's the lesson; but the full picture is its probably not anyone that anyone is directly quoting in this thread who is directly responsible for the initial decision to go about it like this. So there's the lesson. Voting with your wallet is fine, a sale is better than no sale, so its less likely to happen next time since most people cant afford it.

I have a very high opinion of DE compared to other studios and I can tell you guys love your game. Wish I couldve made it to Tennocon to be there for the 10 years I think it would be best to consider not making time-limited things in the future to avoid this specific scenario (obviously I may not have the full picture here), but for all the complaining I can understand that this was really the only fair way to approach the situation. There's alot of people out there who really don't care about time or resource investment and considering the circumstances or fairness. I personally wouldnt appreciate it if I had the gumption to pay 80$ for something only for the price of it to come down because people complained about it. Considering the items in the pack, I'd probably mostly be interested in the skins, and more than likely only an individual one, which is something to consider too but I get that the objective here was to make money. (Probably another reason making something infinitely reproducable is probably better off not being time-limited at all.) So if I paid 80$, specifically because I wanted the skin which I assumed would be "bundle only" and then everyone else just kinda got their way, I'd feel bad too. It's a bit of a lose/lose. Maybe Id be more passionate about it if I played Frost or Mag. Its clear people are mad, I would just feel really awful if that anger hurt anyone's spirits. It wasnt a great decision, and maybe didnt even come from you guys specifically but try not to take the harsh critcism to heart; you guys are the best.

i will make people eat their teeth by holding some change and pocket lint in my hand and punching cheeks with it i will even pay 1 credit per punch if thats what it takes

i refuse to accept that the reason this doesnt exist is because my warframes fingers would succumb to boneitis if i punched a grineer

im gonna need you to explain why in lore i can kill a guy with a candy cane or jingle bells and not rhinos 2.6 million health heavyweight raw cage match championship knuckles why does my skooma addicted gauss not become shrapnel when i mach rush frontal lobe first into a grandmother grineer

id settle for a dinosaur bandaid skin to put on my hands when i throw haymakers and stub my toe on enemies

new fist weapon skin just dropped but also what if footing could be foot bareded it would be good to give equal opportunity footings and fistings

I dont want sock em boppers I want Bock Em Soppers because I want them to be less fun than a pillow fight

i would love it if there was a fist weapon skin that was nothing instead of having to punch guys with bear traps on my hands

finally i can finance a house by being the ideas guy (i am tired of punching guys around the christmas tree)