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4 minutes ago, Waeleto said:
funfact, if you look up "warframe" on youtube now the first thing you see is like 5-8 videos about the heirloom stuff and how bad it is
I trust influencers about as far as I can throw them. I thought their hankering about explosive self-damage was stupid and disingenuous when they were complaining about that, and I think its stupid and disingenuous now.
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7 minutes ago, (XBOX)toughdragon17 said:
She's the comunitys voice in the DE company you half to blame her a bit for some of this situation
-me and my boss talk-
-say "i think it would be good if customer got free things. they said they want things for free because theyve been around a while"
-boss says "no"
-i walk outisde to inform the customer they wont be getting anything for free no matter how much time theyve spent using my store
-he spits on me and tells me i didnt do my job of being 'his voice' properly
I think you might want to like, punch a pillow or say "serenity now" a couple times or something to keep it together
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The people who play this game make it hard for me to rationalize whether or not its deserved. My God.
I hate comparing people's work critically, but Warframe players literally have to be completely clueless to say the S#&$ they say. Like you'd just have to take rose-tinted goggles off when looking at the way SE, Blizzard or almost any other popular MMO handles controversy to see how generous the monetization of WF is to players. How good they have it with the team they have when they've made relatively few mistakes and decisions that weren't well received compared to the accusations of greed directed at a CM.
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3 hours ago, Tyfyter2002 said:
Except in this analogy, nobody is tied to the track, and you can get up and step away at literally any time of your choosing.
Oh, but you might miss the trolley, I guess...? There will be more; just make sure not to lie down on the track next time.-
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17 minutes ago, distal.op said:
They actually can just give everyone a refund, it's not a particularly complicated maneuver if things are set up properly, and if they aren't or fear complications (to be honest, a fair concern to have) they have email addresses right there.
And the lesson is hardly complicated and anyone could have told them that, including themselves.
Theyre trying to make money. No, just giving everyone a refund probably isnt an option nor is it ethical or fair; as it also involves Steam, and is an entirely new set of issues to deal with in addition to also probably costing money to go through with in the first place. The entire thing would be a net-loss and while you may be fine with that, they obviously aren't. This should be obvious to you, but in addition to the issue of processing all of the refunds, theres the matter of the aya and platinum; which could have also been used or traded to other players.
And yes, I agree. Someone grounded in reality could have told you that its not really worth it, and a huge majority of people will laugh it off due to the price alone; but then again they release Prime Access stuff all the time. For people who earn all their stuff through relics or trading you're spending comically large amounts of money on what is basically infinitely reproducable virtual piercings. I don't know who specifically is to blame for becoming out of touch, but I doubt it's anyone in this thread; and yet the message has obviously been received because they did "something." It just isnt what you want; so everyone is throwing a tantrum about it and making completely unwarranted accusations among other things. People need to chill. They're responding to feedback in a fair way, and the fact that theyre responding at all is a good thing.
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1 hour ago, neuroticweasel said:
I don't understand how people hate this package deal. If you don't like it don't buy it. If you add this to the current rotation of stuff (resurgence, etc), it will decrease the value (Yes, I bought it day two). People were complaining like this for Excal Prime. I was upset that I didn't get a higher level of founder back in the day, but it is what it is.
Its easy to understand why people are upset, the issue is that people are expecting a resolution other than this one. Anything more screws over someone else.
What they did was precisely the most fair thing they could have done given the circumstances. You have to know that they cant just give everyone a refund, and you also have to know that there are people who purchased the packs exclusively for the skins. If they allowed you to buy just the skin or one of them even, the people who purchased it or made sacrifices to buy it "on time" would have done so for no reason. That is what it means for it to be fair, or how it would be unfair to do anything else. The additional platinum is the only variable they can actively control at this point since people have made their decisions to buy or not buy the pack.
The only thing they could do from now on is to price them more fairly in the future and maybe dont make them time-limited. That's the lesson; but the full picture is its probably not anyone that anyone is directly quoting in this thread who is directly responsible for the initial decision to go about it like this. So there's the lesson. Voting with your wallet is fine, a sale is better than no sale, so its less likely to happen next time since most people cant afford it.
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I have a very high opinion of DE compared to other studios and I can tell you guys love your game. Wish I couldve made it to Tennocon to be there for the 10 years
I think it would be best to consider not making time-limited things in the future to avoid this specific scenario (obviously I may not have the full picture here), but for all the complaining I can understand that this was really the only fair way to approach the situation. There's alot of people out there who really don't care about time or resource investment and considering the circumstances or fairness. I personally wouldnt appreciate it if I had the gumption to pay 80$ for something only for the price of it to come down because people complained about it. Considering the items in the pack, I'd probably mostly be interested in the skins, and more than likely only an individual one, which is something to consider too but I get that the objective here was to make money. (Probably another reason making something infinitely reproducable is probably better off not being time-limited at all.) So if I paid 80$, specifically because I wanted the skin which I assumed would be "bundle only" and then everyone else just kinda got their way, I'd feel bad too. It's a bit of a lose/lose.
Maybe Id be more passionate about it if I played Frost or Mag. Its clear people are mad, I would just feel really awful if that anger hurt anyone's spirits. It wasnt a great decision, and maybe didnt even come from you guys specifically but try not to take the harsh critcism to heart; you guys are the best.
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On 2023-05-09 at 7:36 AM, SneakyErvin said:
It also comes down to the simple idea that something in/on your hand/fist is better than nothing since it will lead to you inflicting more damage on your opponent. Just avoid soft padding since it would have the opposite effect.
i will make people eat their teeth by holding some change and pocket lint in my hand and punching cheeks with it
i will even pay 1 credit per punch if thats what it takes
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i refuse to accept that the reason this doesnt exist is because my warframes fingers would succumb to boneitis if i punched a grineer
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15 hours ago, (PSN)robotwars7 said:
technically yes, you can blame the surprisingly fragile design of humanoid hands and feet for that.
even though the Warframes are made of an infested skin that seems to be tougher than ordinary human skin, many of the enemies we fight wear solid metallic armor; punching solid metal with your bare hands is a great way to cause serious damage to your digits, knuckles and wrists, and it does mention in one of the Sparring weapons descriptions (Kogake I think) that warframes still need some form of protection on their hands and feet as a result, but the design of the Sparring weapons also amplifies the force of each strike, so it actually does way more damage than fighting totally unarmed would.
I guess it could still be cool to fight unarmed, but even in the space tech world of warframe, there are lines that have been drawn, and apparently this is one of them.
im gonna need you to explain why in lore i can kill a guy with a candy cane or jingle bells and not rhinos 2.6 million health heavyweight raw cage match championship knuckles
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19 minutes ago, 0_The_F00l said:
i would love for either a "nothing" skin or just plain bandages (cause i would love some bloody ribbons on my fists)
id settle for a dinosaur bandaid skin to put on my hands when i throw haymakers and stub my toe on enemies
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new fist weapon skin just dropped
1 hour ago, ReddyDisco said:It does make sense, fisting is usually bare handed.
but also what if footing could be foot bareded it would be good to give equal opportunity footings and fistings
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30 minutes ago, (PSN)thowed said:
Sock em boppers. If you remember these and the little theme song on the commercial your age is showing lol.
I dont want sock em boppers I want Bock Em Soppers because I want them to be less fun than a pillow fight
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12 minutes ago, vanaukas said:
I love Kogake prime exactly for this, it's very minimalistic. (I take off energy/emissive on almost everything, I don't remeber if they were too emisive)
i would love it if there was a fist weapon skin that was nothing instead of having to punch guys with bear traps on my hands
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finally i can finance a house by being the ideas guy
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-When done customizing appearance-
"If Ordis had eyes, they would be glistening with tears."
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Gauss could really use some new skins, I like the Agito one on the workshop, even though he doesn't have his own section and I'm not sure if it has a redline form but if it does and it's complete that'd be really cool. I'm not a huge an of the mag helmet and I don't have any other options. I'd really like any kind of sentai-esque helmet for gauss though. I hope if he doesnt get anything for tennogen that DE's working on something anyway. He's definitely my favorite/most fun frame by far, I can't wait till he gets augments too
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I just wanted to throw this idea out there if no one has really thought of it yet. I think it'd be a dope addition, also considering Gauss has basically no options currently for cosmetics other than the mag helmet which im not super fond of, whereas I'm actually super cool with the way his body looks
i apologize for my terrible handwriting and crappy art, I have basically no artistic talent whatsoever
Basically the ideaa is that when he goes into redline, as opposed to his usual mustache, flames could vent out of the areas in black, so it would look something like this
the "antennae" would fold up and the vents on his face could fold slightly inward, kinda like an air conditioner or something, and the one spine by his forehead would fold outward
also, is this even the proper place to post just a concept?
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the community has seemed pretty wholesome to me, far more wholesome than any other MMO ive ever played tbh. generally friendly, sometimes just quiet; the worst of what ive seen is on the forums
idk where the scamming thing is coming from, and i barely ever trade rivens or feel the need to trade rivens or any of that, so i have no idea what fiasco youre talking about. i have a huge amount of respect for DE, for making this game pretty playable without spending any money on the game (though spending money makes it a little easier). the only thing that sucks is that i've been waiting for a 75% plat discount for a while now because I want to spend money on the game but I haven't gotten one in months. its not even for forma or rushing things either, I literally just want to buy skins
i dont agree with the elitism of common "pay to win" arguments. this is a cooperative game and in general, most people dont have as much time as many of the people who are geared or endgame or basically any higher percentile in general, unrelated to actual skill. the only thing the people who spend their time working and have expendable income that the people who dont work as much is money, and thats more or less the tradeoff as i see it. if youre complaining about the game being "pay to win" on technicality, thats it. technicalities are worthless though; and in reality, its basically insane to ever argue that DE should provide servers, development etc. for free, without ever making any money. they have to make money, none of this would be possible without money.
if you take issue with the fact that its "pay to win" then what is the alternative? its a far better system than ive seen in anything else. DE not making money isn't an option, and it could be far worse than it currently is.
if you dont take issue with the fact that its "pay to win" then what was the point of complaining about it in the first place?
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I would prefer this, because I actually deliberately use my middle mouse button for heavies and my melee key for doing combos, and nothing inbetween yet I perform unintended heavy attacks which eat up my combo counter
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i use sprint boost eat my dust nerds
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On 2019-12-07 at 3:16 AM, (XB1)GearsMatrix301 said:
Having both redline and kinetic going adds an additional 100% base damage to the melee weapon.
I'm not sure what you're trying to add with this reply. That he has enough melee damage or something? I'd say that isn't really the point of concern really, because its an augment mod, so it'd be replacing something. If his 1 could be used to more effect without crashing into the environment it might make it more fun to use, and less situational. It'd probably feel more fluid if mach rushing through enemies cut/stun/staggered them rather than knock them over too.
On 2019-12-07 at 6:15 AM, (PS4)Hopper_Orouk said:Or i don't know..an augment that BUFFS HIS FRAKING SPEED FOR EXAMPLE DE!!!!
I'm actually pretty satisfied with his speed if I'm going to be honest, but I don't even really know what exactly adds to his mach rush, so I just build as much sprint speed as I can. It would make him really odd to play outside of free roam if you build him with so much speed that he just kind of becomes difficult to control in narrow corridors. I feel like unless people try really hard to outrun me, I still beat them to any location, but maybe that's just my own experience because I don't hold the key down, so I burst down hallways and turn on a dime.
On 2019-12-07 at 7:40 AM, (PS4)RazorPhoenix970 said:There is one frame with some kind of momentum, although it is quite impractical to try and take advantage of, that frame is Zephyr. There is a noticeable difference between Divebomb tailwinds just above the ground and those from 20m and above, this is of course only achievable on open world maps and requires your targets to just stand and stare as you descend from on high. My point is momentum exists somewhat, not sure an augment of your design will come into existence though
Gauss is acceleration, Volt is raw speed, Nova is teleport, Nezha is slide momentum (yeah I just remembered him, but it only applies to his speed), Zephyr is wind, Titania and Wukong fly. I don't think Gauss was intended to be the be all end all of speed, just a facet of it , that being the practical applications of speed.
I don't really fully understand how "gauss is acceleration and volt is raw speed", but I think mods in general should affect the actual speed of his movement, or sprint speed mods (if they don't already) since it doesn't appear in any list I can see ingame when I apply them.
I still think Gauss should be the fastest frame in any case, not considering straight out teleporting; which you can't really compete with in any case regardless but has other limitations.
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I think that whenever they add augments for Gauss' abilities, one of them should be an augment for mach rush that makes it so that enemies charged through are struck with a melee attack of the equipped melee weapon, possibly with some kind of damage multiplier and maybe an increase in energy consumption or something for balancing; be it nikana or galatine or whatever. One of the reasons I like Gauss is for utilizing his dash to close gaps, but it feels weird that I more or less only knock people down rather than actually hurt them by charging through them. I typically knock them over with a short dash then turn around and melee as they ragdoll towards me, but it still feels relatively unsatisfying when I don't think it should have to.
Though, really my opinion on this extends to all movement in this game. IMO momentum is something that should be greatly accounted for but currently isn't. For all the speed and mobilty certain frames have or just through their ability to leap and such in general, you can barely utilize any of that beyond just getting around. I think adding momentum multipliers similar to games like Mount & Blade (just as an example; I'm quite aware Warframe has more or less nothing in common with it) would make movement in general make more sense as far as meleeing is concerned and it would make accurately timed strikes in mid air or mid charge a little more rewarding as well. This is also something that kind of occurred to me for slam attacks. It doesn't really make sense that a slam from several hundred meters in the air would do the same amount of damage as one performed barely above the ground.
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The Grineer remind me of old people, with all their prosthetics and liver spots, so I kinda dont feel super good about killing most of them to be honest. The way they barely lift their legs when they run kinda reinforces the image too. Other than the assassination targets I'm not sure which ones I do feel good about killing.
All in all I generally only ever attack solo targets during missions where Im going stealthy. They don't immediately go for the alarm but it does alert them.
Its kinda why I wish there was another faction in the game composed of actually physically fit people that operated almost like a special forces unit or something, instead of just being tanky and swarming. They'd outsmart Tenno by adapting to their abilities (not like Sentients) or hiding after taking shots, while doing alot of damage because they've honed their marksmanship.
Fist Weapon Skin (The Best Idea Ever)
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Posted · Edited by Commander
im bumping this thread again because its christmas and im here to receive my present