4thBro

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  1. 4thBro

    A True Tier Frame list.

    *facepalm* You can't prevent every hit with CC. CC is not damage reduction. You will be the Mag that ruins someone's Interception, I'm sure of it.
  2. 4thBro

    A True Tier Frame list.

    I did not confuse you for the OP, no. Also, Gara can buff NPC's and even "objects" with 90% damage reduction, like Excavation drills. Yes, Trinity can heal & buff them, which is why she is admittedly basically BiS for Tridolons (although you can get the same job done with other means, I hear). But overall, I suppose you could say our back & forth further proves your point of context. But to keep things simple, I think a good foreword to a general tier list would be something along the lines of... "All frames can be made useful somewhere in the game. But this tier list is about what Frames you can expect to be more useful in more mission types in the high-end content of the game." Something like that, perhaps. Maybe even take the time to do each actual mission type separately (within individual spoiler tags for space's sake, probably). Sure, Mag is good at Sorties with Augmented Enemy Shields. But we don't need to include such minute stuff like that in a tier list. Overall, Mag's gonna be pretty low on tier lists. Nobody cares about a specific place where she shines. You can figure that kind of stuff out on your own, elsewhere. That sound fair?
  3. 4thBro

    A True Tier Frame list.

    This post gives me the impression you either don't know about a lot of frames (which I also admittedly feel that I don't, by the way), or that maybe your analytical skills are possibly lacking. A couple things that make me say this... Spy missions... No Ash??? Granted this is opinion-based, but it is my FIRM opinion that Ash is at least much better than Loki. His stealth is a one-handed action, a convenience I cannot stress enough. And on the flip side, I further argue that I'd personally put him over Ivara in the same notion. Ivara feels slow and clunky, only able to walk or tumble while Prowling. Moving through laser barriers is so minimal I don't even give it any value. Ash is easily my go-to Spy frame, and that's after primarily using both Loki and then Ivara for such missions. Ash is, by far, the smoothest one. In my opinion, of course. But that being said, he's not even ON your list. Which is my point here. Trinity "hands down" the best support? I disagree there, too. Her 75% damage reduction PALES in comparison to Gara's, and Energy Vampire is VERY close to uselessness. The only Frames that want EV are Frames that totally dumpster their energy. But generally speaking, these frames are ones that are going to need more than 75% damage reduction in order to survive the hard content. Plus, of course, energy disks and Zenurik dash... Then, maybe the biggest offense, you place Titania in the "Utility" category, but not in the DPS??? I wouldn't be surprised if she had the single highest DPS in the entire game. The only 3 you put there are the highest SPELL DPS in the game. That's such a narrow view! I get a STRONG, STRONG vibe that you know very little about very few Frames. Which is pretty much the problem with most tier lists.
  4. 4thBro

    A True Tier Frame list.

    Reminds me of the two Mags in my Arbitration Interception game, one of them asking the other how to best build her. I chimed in and said WF isn't a game where you should "force" a frame into content just because it's your "main". He then told me Mag mains everywhere would frown upon me. ... -Yes, of course; needless to say, they both died pretty early on, and the other guy & I were stuck doing a 2-man Interception. What can ya do...
  5. 4thBro

    A True Tier Frame list.

    I'd bang Mirage. There, I said it.
  6. 4thBro

    A True Tier Frame list.

    I assumed he's working on it, and decided to make the post first for some reason.
  7. 4thBro

    A True Tier Frame list.

    You keep saying "the missions". Technically, this is including the entire star chart, which is a bunch of babby missions, greatly obliterating these percentages. I think you should fine-tune this criteria. Frames you can take into the most Sortie augments, the most Nightmare augments, extended Arbitrations, Tridolons, highest-tier Bounties, high risk Indexes (kinda who cares though), extended Elite Onslaughts, and anything else relevant that I forgot. That being said, if Rhino isn't in your literal top slot, your tier list is wrong.
  8. 4thBro

    Why all frames were human big theory

    Um... I read a small portion of the OP, whom went into TONS of lore detail I never knew. But... I already knew Warframes were once "humans" (or, more accurately, people in general)... Is this not basically already explained when we play through the main storyline and hear Ballas's notes, or whatever??? Did some people NOT pick up on this???
  9. 4thBro

    Eidolons shouldn't damage lures.

    Maybe. I'm not gonna pretend like I don't get that way. But I don't feel like I have been so far.
  10. 4thBro

    Eidolons shouldn't damage lures.

    You're quite unfair with this response, which is exactly why I'm sure it'll garner a lot of support. (The forum community is pretty bullyish.) Saying, "Trinity isn't the irreplaceable one, Volt is," doesn't really support your point over my own. It only reinforces mine, and you simply change the value of what X is. I also don't understand how you think ANYTHING I said means "dealing bad damage and being really slow with phases". Do you understand that a simple Lanka setup with NO Riven can kill a Hydro limb in under 5 seconds? Sure, I know a lot of frames can do it in a single shot. But is that what you leave a party over? Four seconds? Do the math on that one. Four seconds per limb in a Tri hunt, versus leaving a party, retaking bounty, finding lures again, etc... Not to mention hoping you get your "dream team" since that seems to be all you are willing to play with. I'm not complaining about damage buff frames because you and I seem to have a difference of opinion on that particular phase. I don't mind spending 5 shots instead of 1 to kill my Hydrolyst limbs. Vile Acceleration makes that pretty quick. I don't need a buff. I don't need other players to even have guns equipped. I really don't give a crap. All I want is for them to have good Amps, because the shields are the ONLY thing that matters in Eido hunts. I've done double play nights, and the only thing that mattered were the Amps.
  11. 4thBro

    Eidolons shouldn't damage lures.

    ? The only thing you mentioned covered by frames is healing lures. Any frame can grab a Lanka and shoot limbs. How about instead of viewing it as "making Eidolons easier," you think about the route of, "rework Eidolons"? I don't know why you're Ok with Trinity being the only frame required (or whatever, some other healer for lures). All these other things like Chroma, Rhino, Volt, Harrow, etc etc whatever... They don't do anything 4 Trinity's with a Lanka can't do. But I promise you the Trinity's can do stuff the others cannot do. I'm really not sure why you went the route you did with your post.
  12. 4thBro

    Eidolons shouldn't damage lures.

    Yeah, talking about Tri.
  13. Kinda getting tired of host migration every time someone decides, "no Trinity? No party."