MirageKnight

I’m all in favor of showing justice and respect for people regardless of race, gender, sexual orientation, economic and educational background and such… …but what does this have to do with the discussion at hand? Actually I do… Like a lot of people here, I have seen and identified a problem that should be fixed in a timely manner. It’s a given that I also don’t want this problem to be repeated in the future. In protest of DE doing nothing else to remedy this situation, I’ve chosen to NOT buy items from this offering and I encourage others to do the same as a way of sending a clear message that we don’t approve of this kind of disrespect. This is in addition to my vocal criticism of the pack and their tone deaf, half-baked handling of the feedback they were given by us. That being said, it’s ultimately on DE and their backers as to how to proceed - there’s only so much influence we have and only so much we can do. It would be great if they turned around and said “We’ve looked at the situation and decided changes are in order. We’re really sorry about how we handled this situation and it’ll never happen again.” and addressed the situation now rather than later… but I’m a realist and I’m not holding my breathe. My thanks to everyone here that’s making sure that DE is reminded of how they screwed up and how a decent chunk of players are not going to simply forget about this.

Similar problem with the default helmet and body for standard Nyx... Nyx Prime here - Prime skin and non-prime standard helmet. I don't think I even need to show the non-prime standard body here because it displays the same way as the helmet. I'll continue to update this thread as needed. Thanks for reading.

Could we get this looked at? This bug has been around for a couple of years.

Just built this recently and genuinely thought this was a feature as opposed to a bug 😬 Regardless, the head is too low and thus clips badly with most of the other modular parts. Fix please?

Here's another example of inconsistent lighting behavior - but this also highlights another issue where the texture doesn't show the right values for the colors picked. Rhino Prime skin with regular Rhino helmet. The colors on the helmet are more saturated / "richer" than they should be. Lighting issues in a "dark" area. As with Mirage's old helmet, Rhino's sticks out like a sore thumb. The Prime skin is behaving more or less as it should given the ambient lighting conditions, but the helmet skin definitely isn't. I love the styling of the old helmet compared to the Prime one, but it's really hard to use it in this state. There are quite a few skins that have issues like these (and have had them for years now) and I strongly encourage other players to post their examples of said issues here so that this can be addressed more efficiently. Thanks for reading.

Some older skins don't seem to be able to handle lighting fx as well as newer skins and I feel like some reviewing and updating is in order. The problem is that in dark areas with sourced lighting, some older skins are too bright while everything else is suitably muted. Here's a good example: Mirage Prime with a Tiberon Prime and Shade Prime seen here - but with Mirage's original helmet instead of the Prime one. For comparison: Mirage Prime but using the original helmet and body. Note: In both screenshots, all gear has the same color scheme.

I noticed that too - I think this is intentional to call out support for cancer research and such. That said, I'd have thought that at least the emissive parts and the accents would be colorable, as is the case with the shoulder ribbons.

When walking or running, part of Volt Prime's "skirt" tends to vibrate rapidly at random. The part in question is shown below and the animation bug has been around for a while now. Note: This only happens when using the Prime skin. Edit: as of the Abyss of Dagath mainline update, it looks like this bug has finally been squashed. Thanks!

No actually they wouldn’t be screwing them over. Those people got exactly what they wanted and paid for…and then DE added extra plat to everyone else’s major disappointment.

So what’s legitimately stopping them from structuring the collection differently right now instead of waiting until next year?

Apparently some gamer that feels the need to protect their beloved company from criticism they don't agree with by lecturing us about how vulgar and ungrateful we are and how we need to just accept the situation like good players and keep quiet. I remember that fiasco. You came from a well-meant place and you tried your best...the problem was the sheer number of white knights that crawled out of the woodwork to turn a legitimate discussion into a toxic warzone. All over a mod. Will a sigh of exasperation suffice as well?

Sadly, I’ve got a pretty good idea. I’ve been around here on and off for 10 years now and been attacked for asking for arguably fair and reasonable changes that would benefit a majority of players at least. The white knighting got so bad I left the forums for at least a year.

Ugh - that’s why…thanks for the heads up!

Didn’t you say that the last time you were here? DE-fenders gotta defend. Am I right?

Agreed :/ But hey, gotta control that narrative - right? They did apologize and admit they screwed up, but it was arguably a really half-a**ed apology and they still refuse to fix the mess they created with this particular collection. That’s fine DE. I still refuse to get those skins.

Some of those comments were against twitch TOS, but most were regarding the heirloom collection- I watched some of the comment deletions happen in real time. That happened to one of my comments. Note: They didn’t get all of the comments and criticisms regarding the collection, but they did nail a few that called for an outright boycott.

To echo what others have said elsewhere, I’d like to see damage for Kavats and Kubrows moddable on a separate screen - similar to how exalted weapons for Warframes are treated.

Agreed - this should have been a thing since day 1.

Primed ‘frames already have some improved base compared to their regular versions. Shards boost those improvements by the same factor.

Arguably not players that have actively supported Warframe since 2013…

It’s more than just pixels. It would more accurate to say that we are frustrated by how we’re being treated at present and how DE has reacted to valid criticism of its offerings and handling of the situation. We’re used to being treated better and more fairly. After several years, that appears to be changing. Its natural for people to be upset when they perceive something as being unfair. If the lights for Warframe go off, we’ll shrug, lament the passing of a good game, and try to find something that’ll scratch the same itch. If the game folds as a result of large numbers of players leaving due to feeling being treated poorly by the devs / publisher, then that’s the fault of the people that failed to listen to and treat its player base right.

No worries!

See Excalibur Prime / Founders pack.

Count me in. Cancelled plans to buy the upcoming new ‘frame, prime access, and deluxe skins. I also cancelled plans to get the art book as well. I intend to still play, but I refuse to financially support a company that’s willing to ignore / hand wave players with legitimate concerns. This is coming from a 10 year veteran player that’s spent upwards of $2k mind you…and as a 10 year vet, I’m just a bit insulted that a badge that signifies 10 years of support has to be bought. me? I’d have issued that accolade to every single player that’s stuck around and supported DE for so long.

Oh they'll certainly listen when enough people decide to curb their ingame purchases in protest and this issue gets enough public exposure.