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  1. 19 minutes ago, Darvahoya said:

    I'm coming into this discussion late and have only briefly scanned the comments. I don't have any answers but I do have some observations I will share at the risk of collapsing this wave. It's been pointed out that the cancel culture of eliminating things that some consider annoying is a dangerous path. The ability to accept others regardless of race, religion, sexual orientation or other personal preference has been plaguing mankind since the earliest stages of our evolution. Being willing to accept the potential negative effects of stupid product names for the targets of our past evils is not cancel culture, it's a form of accepting responsibility for things we've done to create these sensitivities.

    The second thought is that Warframe is just a game, it's here for entertainment and should not be anything of major consequence in our lives. Other squad members doing things that don't align with my play goals happens in my missions from time to time but I have found a simple solution that works for me, it's to remember: "live and let live". If this doesn't work then perhaps listen to Ordis the next time he reminds you to take time for yourself.

    WITAF was this

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  2. 9 minutes ago, (PSN)MYKK678 said:

    Ahhhh now I get it. You're relying on the old "It has to be A or B, there is no C" method of arguing. That's not going to work here.

    I mean let's be honest, you couldn't even manage to get the reason for one of the frames you mentioned to be in the Top 10 correct so the idea of getting anything else right here is slowly slipping away. No pal, Excalibur is in the Top 10 because he's literally most people's starter Warframe. He's the poster-child for the whole game. Option C very much does exist I'm afraid. But you didn't answer my question so we won't run through the Top 10 until that happens.

    I'm also genuinely worried that you seem to have completely and utterly lost your point. And I'm not even talking about "you have no point anymore", I'm talking about you accidentally arguing my point instead of yours. Yes, both Wukong and Titania are powerful Warframes, which is why they're so high on the list. That was my point. So....thanks? Did you forget what you were supposed to be talking about or something?

    OK, you're one of those guys. 

    Tell you what: don't take my word for it.  Ask around if popularity equals power.  Not just the forums, in game as well.  Even other platforms like reddit, YouTube, wherever.  Don't worry, you can keep the results to yourself.

    The hilarious part is that you even admitted earlier that you've had previous disagreements with others and you didn't receive a point that satisfied you.  Nothing will because you refuse to listen to reason or logic

    Tell you what, if it makes you feel better, I'll let you have the last word.  Reason doesn't seem like something you'll accept.  Maybe indifference will.  

    We're done here

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  3. On 2024-02-24 at 4:01 PM, sunderthefirmament said:

    K Drives are deeply unpopular and pretty much always have been.  Making a frame centered on that gimmick was always ill advised, but DE went ahead and did it anyway.  My personal theory is that they put a ton of resources into creating K Drives, saw that basically no one was engaging with them, and decided to create Yareli to get at least something out of all their work.  A sunk cost frame, if you will.

     

    Regardless, Yareli got a lot of hate at launch not only because of her glitchy, horrible K Drive mechanics, but also because she was really weak.  She unseated pre-rework (puddle) Hydroid as the weakest frame in the game, at least by my estimation.  She got some significant improvements when Lua's Prey (Voruna update) dropped, but even then she remained largely a CC frame with a K Drive gimmick.  And K Drives are still pretty awful in most tiles.  Even for those who take the time to master their clunky controls, K Drives are still prone to a bevy of bugs, while also locking you out of Helminth abilities, primary weapons, and melee.  The juice ain't worth the squeeze, at least not most of the time.

     

    Personally, I like Yareli's aesthetics and 3/4 of her abilities.  With this augment, I'm likely to use her a lot more.  I don't love giving up a mod slot for something that should honestly be an option as part of her base kit.  K Drives are so unstable, unpleasant, and poorly suited to the tilesets in the game that I feel like DE owes it to us at this point.  I've long been a proponent of the tap/hold option to have Merulina as a minion or a "mount."  I guess this is as close to that as we'll ever get... until her eventual prime, maybe (but I'm not going to hold my breath).

    Correct.

    I will also add that I was a bit peeved when there was a 4-6 month span when Yareli received buff after buff after buff with with almost no payoff, while Caliban and Lavos were pretty much just decorations in the armory. 

    I will never forgive DE for Lavos' cool down mechanic.  Ever.

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  4. 2 minutes ago, (PSN)MYKK678 said:

    I mean, it definitely is lol. If you can explain the logic behind why powerful frames wouldn't be the most used I'll gladly hear it. Afterwards I can give you a quick rundown of why the top 10 are the top 10.

    I keep seeing people try that argument but they only ever say the words, they never back it up with anything real. Granted you tried and failed with the Mag comparison considering your "widely regarded" example is nonsense, but I'll at least give you props for putting something behind the statement itself instead of just expecting someone to randomly believe it.

    It also doesn't help your point considering that if we look at it from the other side, not only is Mag Prime used more than both Trinity and Trinity Prime, but is used more than both combined. I'm even trying to be as fair as possible here and using Mag Prime instead of Mag, and it's still not looking good.

    By your logic, Excalibur and Titania are top 10 frames, correct?  Nothing to do with ease of use or anything I'm sure.  

    What you are saying is basically the equivalent of "well, nobody watches X game on Twitch, it has to be bad!"

    The bottom line is players will always go for the lowest hanging fruit.  Why do you think Wukong is still up there, if not for braindead survivability and easier spy missions?  Are you going to argue Titania is powerful because she runs fissures quickly?

    You are perfectly entitled to your belief that popularity equals power.  But trying to pass it off as fact is honestly laughable at best.

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  5. 14 minutes ago, spider_enigma said:

    even brozime said he was S#&$

    He was notorious for saying Inaros (and other questionable picks) was/were top tier for years. I believe those vids are still up

    11 minutes ago, (PSN)MYKK678 said:

    You must be right, that must be why her main frame is third last in usage and her prime is at a staggering 0.62% usage in 2023.

     

    Frame usage is not indicative of their power.  Mag's usage has been in the dirt for years and she is widely regarded as one of the best frames in the game.  Just saying.

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  6. 1 minute ago, Hexerin said:

    Both Blessing and Energy Vampire are insanely strong, and Link is entirely functional. Her only bad ability is Well of Life, as it's redundant to Blessing. The only thing about Trinity that truly needs help is her durations, which are all pitifully low by modern standards. Is there more you could do to her to make her more fun? Of course, but there's far too many other frames that actually need reworks that absolutely come first.

    Thank you

    Say it louder for people in the back

  7. 14 hours ago, (PSN)MYKK678 said:

    That actually wasn't at all the reason why Inaros players were being teased. It was because he was so good, he was considered "easy mode".

    This is cap.

    Rhino was the frame people actually made fun of because of his ease of use until the Wukong rework and eventually Rev's release. 

    Inaros has been hounded for years due to having 3 useless abilities and and a laughable passive.  The only people saying otherwise were Inaros mains and anybody foolish enough to take Brozime serious.

  8. 15 minutes ago, Skoomaseller said:

    is it really shaming language though? I mean it's not really something to be ashamed of, kdrives DO suck and sucking at kdrives is completely understandable

    I agree players shouldn't feel that way, especially when the general consensus is that k-drives are unpopular as a whole.

    I just find it weird that some Yareli players are basically thumbing their noses at those who like the augment 

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