The Nightwave system is BROKEN.....
Here's the thing at the heart of the whole debate: They took a system that doled out rewards per mission. Want that cool looking Nidus helmet? Do a mission when the alert is up. Miss it? Just wait, it will come around again. Same with Nitain Extract, which happened 4 times/day and Vauban parts that were constantly on the system. Being unemployed for 2 years and playing Warframe practically all day, every day, I got used to seeing what was on the alert system. With Nightwave, I now have to do MULTIPLE missions, rank up MULTIPLE ranks in a new "Syndicate" system just to earn the cred to now BUY those same things that I used to be able to get with a SINGLE mission. I got to Tier 3 and got 50 cred. Great, now I can finally buy some Nitain. But I had to do over half a DOZEN missions and it took me OVER A WEEK to gain enough rep to hit Tier 3. Can certain people gain rep like crazy and hit Tier 30 in 5 weeks? Sure. Is that what the majority of players can do? No.
So what's the solution? The way I see it, there is only a couple of ways they can fix this. 1) Give us cred with every mission we do AND with every Tier, we rank up to. Like 5 cred per mission and 10 per Tier, something. That way, we're constantly getting a reward we need for every grind we have to do. They took everything from alerts and put it behind a PAYWALL. Then they made it so that you can only get credit for that paywall every 3-4-6 Tiers of rep in a new Syndicate. That's simply wrong. The only other way to fix this would be to re-institute at least partial alerts again, having both systems in place at the same time.
This new Nightwave system is a completely different system to what the rest of Warframe is. With everything else in WF, you grind for what you want. Do a mission, get a reward. With Nightwave, it's more: do tons of missions and you'll eventually earn enough money to buy what you want. It's counter-intuitive. I think the idea behind Nightwave was that they were going to reward us for doing stuff we were already doing anyway. But that doesn't work for the majority of players. The alert system, while imperfect, worked for all players, hardcore or new, those who play for hours on end or just pop in for a bit. Nightwave doesn't do that.
Right now, they need to either re-instate alerts or fix this bloody mess of a system. With the previous alert system, we had a chance of getting 4 Nitain EVERY DAY...GUARANTEED. I didn't get all 4, every day, but I got at least a couple here and there and over time I always had enough on hand for whatever projects I needed. Occasionally, I would run into builds that required more Nitain than I had and I had to be more watchful for the alerts. But at the same time, I was able to do other alerts for helmets, Vauban parts, etc. Now, they've thrown EVERYTHING into one big purchasable pot and you have to do DOZENS of missions in order to rank up THREE TIERS before you get your first spec of Nitain. What if I need the Nitain but also want 2 helmets? Or a couple of the mods? The Nitain will have to be in every reward table, but the mod choices have already switched up twice, along with helmets and gear. It's just COMPLETELY ABSURD right now how you gain cred.
You should gain cred for EVERY Nightwave rep mission you do. You should gain cred at EVERY Tier ranking. You should gain cred for killing the Wolf or his 3 minions. Just a little cred here and there and then you can buy what you need/want with a REASONABLE amount of grind. As it stands right now, I'm GRINDING FOR THINGS I DON'T WANT/NEED, how is that OK with anyone? I don't give a crap about Glyphs or Sigils. I didn't need 2 more weapon slots or another Warframe slot. I'd rather get stuff that's sellable for plat that I then spend on either of those like I've done the entire bloody game so far.
Another way they could change/improve NIghtwave is to have the Tier system needs to function more like a normal Syndicate's. As it stands right now, I have to do dozens of missions to gain rep to get through Tiers that offer rewards I neither want or need. That is ABSURD. The way it SHOULD work is that at each Tier, you have a choice between 3 things. And one of those 3 things should ALWAYS be cred. In smaller amounts at the lower tiers, higher amounts at the higher tiers. And obviously, things like Umbra Forma should stay as a high tier reward. But it's completely stupid, ridiculous and borderline sadistic to make me grind through Tiers that offer rewards I don't care for. At least with the previous alert system, I only did a mission if I wanted the reward. Now I'm being FORCED to go through DOZENS of mission in order to earn enough rep to get high enough Tier rating to get the cred that I need to purchase the items this system is supposed to replace. I NEED Nitain Extract. Before, it was just a pain in the ass to get, but I was assured that there would be 4 alerts sometime during the day that offered it as a reward. As it stands now, I've done all but 4 of the new rep missions for Nightwave and I STILL don't have enough rep to get ANY wolf cred to obtain even ONE Nitain Extract. This is WRONG.
My perfect example is still Nitain Extract. I need a bunch of it to build my Nekros Prime. Before, I was at least guaranteed that there was a chance to get 4 of them PER DAY. I need 5 to build Nekros. So it would have taken no more than a couple of days, if I stayed logged in and paying attention for the alerts (which I was doing)
But with the NEW system, I have to do MISSION AFTER MISSION AFTER MISSION in order to rank up rep with Nightwave not to Tier 1, not to Tier 2, but all the way to Tier 3, that's 30,000 REP JUST to have my first chance at getting the stupid wolf cred so I can buy the Nitain Extract. And it's taking me FAR more than 2 days to get the stupid rep, especially since the daily's aren't resetting, some missions don't give enough rep that they should. (since when does a Tridelon hunt only count for 5k?) And the stupid "spys" are only worth 50 rep each. So even looking for and killing/capturing them isn't worth it.
This system NEEDS to be re-worked. I don't give a damn about glyphs or the crap I've earned at Tier 1 and 2. I WANT THE CRED SO I CAN BUY THE NITAIN I ***NEED***. You removed a horrible but WORKING system to gain Nitain Extract and replaced it with a system that is completely broken and has made it near impossible for me to get my nitain.
I'll say it again. The Tier system should work the same way it does for Syndicates. When you reach the next Tier, you're given a choice of 3 rewards and ONE of those rewards is cred. Say 5 cred for Tier 1, 10 cred for Tier 2, or whatever. Even at those low numbers, I would have the 15 cred I need to buy 5 Nitain Extract. The current system is pissing me off even more than the 4/day pain-in-the-ass system for Nitain that existed before.
The biggest problem is that they have removed CHOICE.
The current "Tier" system FORCES me to gain enough rep to get Tier 1 and get a stupid Sigil (that I don't care about) and then rank up again to Tier 2 so I can get a stupid Glyph pack (that I also don't care about) and then force me to do enough missions and gain enough rep to get a THIRD tier where I can FINALLY get the cred that is SUPPOSED to be the key to replacing the original alert system. EVERYTHING from the original alerts system is now tied up in creds. And creds are currently only earned in sets of 50 at Tiers 3, 6, 12, 16, 20, 24. Why the jump from Tier 6 to Tier 12 is baffling me even more. So if I want helmets/Nitain/etc that costs 175 cred in total, I need to do DOZENS of missions in order to get enough Tiers and cred in order to buy them. Before, I would only have to do THREE missions. Once for each item I was interested in. See the problem here??? They're forcing me to do missions I don't want to do (and tons of them) to gain rep to get items I don't care about, to FINALLY get cred (but only every once in a while)
Cred should be gained either at every Tier or with EVERY mission you do successfully. Make it 5 or 10 cred per mission. And THEN throw in the bundles of 50 cred at Tier 3, 6, 12, etc. Right now, the system is a WAY WORSE grind than it was before. I understand the grind, I accept the grind, but they just EXPONENTIALLY increased the grind for the SAME ITEMS as before. That's NOT right.
What sucks the most is that I don't think DE is really listening. They at least listened to someone and at least increased the number of missions and took out the "friend/clan" requirement on the daily sortie mission, but then added it to the survival mission. And I'm sorry, but doing a Tridolon hunt should have been worth 15k not 5k. There may be some super players than can do 4-5 Tridolon hunts a day, but for us "normies", doing a Tridolon hunt at all isn't an easy ask.
(I know this post has a bit of redundancy, it's a mash-up of posts I made in a dedicated thread I started elsewhere but I just don't think DE is listening....)