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On 3/24/2017 at 11:24 PM, Sigmas71 said:
Yeah i don't know what they tried to do, but it failed. My dark emblem is barely visible now. DE better have their refund scripts handy :)
My thoughts exactly.
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Title says it all...
I notice in the patch notes it says:
- Fixed an issue with Clan Emblems being a bit too transparent and bright. There should now be a better balance between darker/brighter clan emblems.
I purposely set my emblems up using the Guide pinned at the top of this section of the forums to off-set the TOO BRIGHT emblem effects that are now a thing of the past, I assume.
With these changes, now the emblems are either washed out, desaturated, or transparent.
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23 hours ago, Chris7692 said:
This clan is lit as F***!!!!!!!
Thanks Chris,
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On 3/19/2017 at 4:33 PM, GamingMunchkins said:
I'd like to be apart of flow.
IGN: GamingMunchkins
7 hours ago, Kidarmando said:I'd Love to join!
IGN: Kidarmando
Hello friends,
It appears you both are already in a clan, you will need to leave your current clan before you can become 300% Hotter!
I have sent you both Friend requests in game. If you see me online, send me a message, and I'll give you the warmest of welcomes into the FLOW.
Your 4 Key Prime awaits!
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14 hours ago, Silivios said:
I think this might be a perfect clan for me! I'd love to join! IGN: Silivios
This might be the perfect clan for everyone!
Welcome to Flow!
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19 hours ago, MudaMunsta said:
Nice ad 12/10, but really this clan sounds fun, and I would love to join!
IGN: MudaMunsta
And we would love to have you!
Welcome to Flow! Come have fun WITH us!
6 hours ago, Bored3 said:Like the vibe of the clan. IGN @Bored3. NOW SHUT UP AND RECRUITE ME!
Welcome to Flow Bored3,
Other clan's restrictions may keep you from entering...but not at FLOW!
We'll accept anyone who is wise enough to seek that which is 300% Hotter!
At Flow we believe that "with quantity comes quality"...
And besides, if you aren't performing to the very least of our already low, low standards....we'll just kick you from the clan once you've proven yourself useless!
It's just that simple!
Now, come along! We have an Awards Ceremony tomorrow!
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4 hours ago, Featherdraw said:
Hello.
I'm a new player and this clan looks loke a fun place to be.
IGN: Featherdraw
Hello Featherdraw,
I like your name, it's going to be easy for me to remember you!
Flow clan is the most FUN clan that was ever created for new players who aspire to be space ninjas!
We at Flow want to ensure that you become the very best that you have time to be, we will provide you with the knowledge and community that will assist you along your path, with an atmosphere that is light and relaxed, yet capable of becoming competitive when challenged, we are a very diverse Clan. All we ask of you and will eventually expect from you in return is to TRY to make time for the Clan when it needs YOU!
Welcome to Flow, and may the 4 Key Prime light your path.
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4 hours ago, Ernestasx said:
Wow, that was the best clan advertisment i have ever seen! o_o
I would love to join this clan. Also, voice chat isn't a requirement since i didn't see anything about it, is it? (Shy person right here. :D )
The name is the same as in the game: Ernestasx
Hello Ernestasx,
Thanks for taking the time to enjoy the advertisement, I'm glad you liked it.
Voice chat isn't a requirement, however when we are running Raids, or Warframe events you may be asked to join voice channels in Discord to at least listen to what is being discussed and planned.
We don't have any entry requirements but we do expect everyone in the clan to participate in activities, most importantly Warframe events, and we expect our members to assist each other in Clan projects when they arise, such as farming for resources for expensive Dojo related research or expansions. Our Dojo is 100% complete at the moment, but that may change in the future as more content is added.
Most importantly, being that you aren't inclined to use voice chat, keep an eye on clan chat, contribute where you feel comfortable and never be affraid to ask for help!
An invite has been sent to you.
Welcome to Flow!
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1 hour ago, ChuckMaverick said:
With 2017 being the year of clans and big changes on the way including clan ranking and affinity, the Hema costs and the response to them are an important sign to DE of what not to do, and shouldn't be forgotten. For now this thread is as good a reminder as any.
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DE can do better, and I want them to, for the sake of the future of a game I love.
Well said man, I appreciate the response.
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4 hours ago, CBAROG said:
What argument? That Hema is as valuable as a gold skin? It's nothing like that. Hema is a pretty mediocre weapon for it's cost. It's one thing when you have to farm for weapons, but Hema requires more effort than the whole Bio lab required before it. Maybe more than Bio and Corpus labs combined. So no, you don't have any arguments that "produce something of merit". Like at all.
You missed the point. It has nothing to do with the actual rewards other games provide.
Let me frame it differently.
Problem: Clan Tech items are in general extremely easy to start research on.
Case in Point: The Ferrox, just released a few days ago. I'm in a Mountain Clan. There are 300 people that could (should) be responsible for contributing to this research. Yet, as soon as the Ferrox was released within minutes of deployment, before 98% of the clan could even log into the game and donate anything, it was already researching. This required 1 maybe 2 people to drop resources into the tech lab to complete it's requirements.
This left the other 298 people in the clan with NOTHING to contribute, nothing required to help. You might think this is great, so easy right? It's so easy it's pathetic. This creates the mentality that we have here in this thread.
Now, what is the problem you may think, I'm sure the vast majority of you are still confused. Let's go deeper.
The Hema research, 150,000 Mutagen Samples (for our clan)....this wasn't done in minutes, it wasn't done overnight, it took a few weeks and it even required the clan to talk to each other! We had to form squads, create farming builds, we even had to use HYDROID!!!! That's blasphemy! People in a clan, talking to each other and having to form squads to produce the required resources to start research on a weapon and even use one of the least used Warframes to do it?...how could this be DE? When everything in the past was so easy...most people never having to donate anything, they could just let the veterans do it all for them instead.
Now lets look at the big picture.
Anyone who plays Warframe can start a clan, but does this mean that everyone who starts a clan can actually do a good job and ensure their clan is healthy?
There are far too many clans in this game, many of them are empty, mostly dead or very inactive. Do you want to join a clan that is dead, mostly inactive, or empty?
It's never really been a problem until the HEMA came around.
The real problem in my opinion is that DE allowed for the HEMA to be purchased with platinum on the market.
I support the resource cost of the HEMA to research, but I strongly disagree with DE placing it on the market for purchase with platinum and hope DE stops putting clan tech items on the market completely.
Consider this, when you look at the forums, most clans like to promote and advertise "100% Dojo research completed"
As a matter of fact, so many clans can use that sales pitch to market their clan, it no longer holds weight, it's a moot point.
Recently I've seen clans that used to say "100% Dojo research complete" adding "Hema almost done" next to it.
Think about it....
If DE continues to produce Clan tech items with LARGE resource costs to research like the HEMA, it will actually improve the player experience overall.
Here are a few points to validate that:
1.) Smaller, dead clans will evaporate, those "Warlords" who aren't active, don't put in the effort and make their clan's something great for the members will retreat.
2.) "100% Dojo reseach complete" will actually be a thing of merit...an actual marketable pitch again. Players will want to join these clans because they spell "success"
3.) The healthier clans, those with Warlords and upper management and members who contribute, communicate and work together are HAPPIER clans. And setting the bar on clan tech items promotes communication, clan wide contribution and clan members working together.
4.) Those crappy clans that have poor leadership will be phased over time due to supply and demand driven by clan tech.
5.) The EX-members of clans with poor leadership who failed, will gravitate towards the clans that are actually functional and healthy with sustained numbers.
6.) The "burden" of farming for higher cost research items such as the HEMA will not be an issue, the "burden" should be shared among the members of those healthy clans. And people will form social bonds through the experiences they share working together.
7.) These resource farms will require less time per individual, producing enriching experiences for clan members of all levels instead of dread. Facilitating a time and place to socialize and work together. This creates systemic unity and will have positive effects in other areas.
8.) Consider the Future content, with the additions of the future CLAN focused content to come, we need to become better organized and concentrated as clans, these increased costs will do that, through the necessity to learn effective methods of teamwork.
In the past, everything was so easily acquired, excessive farming was for individual wants and needs, but Clans were created to produce a community of players working together to achieve greater things that could not be accomplished alone, while providing an atmosphere of support and community.
When a Mountain Clan's dojo tech research can be completed by 1 or 2 members of the (should be) 300 members, this system needs a rework.
The problem is, we have too many scarcely populated clans of all sizes and we have become complacent with everything being easily obtainable in the clan tech supply of those clans.
The research costs of all clan tech items aside from the HEMA has been comparatively too low for the intended number of members per capita in each clan tier.
Those of you who are upset, are in shock due to what is the reality of what Clan tech research cost should actually be. These items aren't gold trophies but they should be something Clans are proud of, they should be marketable to the community in order to garner and sustain membership into the clans that have earned them.
From the player perspective, when you join a clan, when you donate your time and your effort into building up your Warlord's clan, do you not hope and expect the founder, and upper management of those clans to protect YOUR investment?
Wouldn't you feel better knowing that your time is not squandered? Wouldn't it be horrible to know all your work has been done in vain, building up the selfish desires of an ineffective and neglectful Warlord who will eventually drive your investments into the ground?
You should be selective in your choice of Clan, and you shouldn't accept anything less than a clan with proven dedication to prosperity and achievement through serious involvement in the community you are a part of.
Let the research cost go up and stay, and watch the ineffective and neglectful Warlord's clans fall. Let the resource costs clear the weeds who have been choking the bloom of greater clans in this garden.
Let the community gravitate towards a clear path to sound investments of their own in those clans that can withstand the test of time and endurance of which can only be attained through truly good leadership and positive direction.
Additionally, a point to note, with the NEW clan content that is to come, there has been clear mention that Clans will be Graded based on clan tech accomplishments. This is a scoring system that one can only assume will be used as a marketing point to show the community what your clan is worth in terms of quality.
DE Steve said in a recent devstream that clans will be RANKED depending on their accomplishments, including but not limited to clan tech research completed.
This means that it would be in the best interest of all clans and their members to actually have higher resource costs on clan tech research. This way Clans can be fairly and clearly Ranked in order to stand out among the clans that aren't in the same league regardless of clan size but rather in accomplishment through quality.
We need a clear defining line between the good, bad and ugly Clans, with so many clans to choose from. My hope is that we obtain that through this ranking system.
However, with these current pathetically low costs for clan tech research, this grading system cannot work based on this metric, so why not make the pitch "100% Dojo research completed" actually mean something for once.
If we set the bar higher to obtain these clan tech items, the quality of clans must improve to reach it and those clans of quality will emerge while those clans that will ultimately be a waste of your time will sink. This I feel is the true intent of the increased cost of the HEMA research and hopefully it will be a trend we see become standard practice, for the betterment of the game at large.
....unless DE just wanted a cash grab from the market with the HEMA, and if that was the case, and these clan tech items of absorbent resource cost to research continue to be deployed along side a platinum buy-out option through the market...we're screwed.
So if you really feel like protesting anything, protest the fact the HEMA was made available for platinum, and that alone.
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2 hours ago, ChuckMaverick said:
And we will continue working towards getting an improvement on the excessive Hema costs.
When you have nothing left but ad-hominems, you really should give up rather than make a fool of yourself.
I don't think so, you've only pointed out the ad-hominems in my response, my point was laced with them and I'll give you that, this whole outcry over the hema cost is DEAD, and anyone still complaining about it needs to learn to deal with it and move on.
The argument in my response is completely valid, but you can't seem to refute that with any logical substance. Rather than just hide behind your grasp of adjective usage, perhaps you can produce something of merit, to explain how those of you, who are so distraught about having to farm in a game based on farming, is not simply an absurdity.
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3 hours ago, Flirk2 said:
Because that's how progress it made. By working hard and ''sucking it up''. Right.
Actually Yes, that is exactly how progress has always been made. By WORKING towards it.
1 hour ago, frogular said:Want? Let's talk about want for a second.
I "wanted" the new Zelda game so I bought a Switch and the game with the money I earned.
I "wanted" a new car because my old one was no longer working and would cost too much to keep maintaining so I went out and bought a used one.
I "wanted" to see the new Wolverine movie so I made plans to go see it with my friends.
Hey buddy, all those wants you just posted...you also mentioned having to PAY for them with money you had to WORK for.
You wanted a Hema...yes, don't deny it..... YOU WANTED A HEMA....otherwise you wouldn't be here. You just want to cry about how you had to work for it.
To both of you, let's have a minute of real talk.
Have you ever played any game?
Let's take Minecraft for example...this game probably appeals to your age group.
When you play minecraft, and you WANT to build that Giant phallic shaped tower made of the rarest ores in the virtual dirt...what do you have to do? C'mon..what do you gotta do? Sure you could go into creative mode...but that's not actually playing the game...go buy a bag of Legos if you want it to be that easy.
In Minecraft, if you play the game properly, and you want to BUILD stuff, you have to get your trusty mining pick and start digging...for hours you dig, dig dig dig...maybe even DAYS..or weeks to erect that perfect overcompensation, that tower of glory to reflect all your HARD....play? NO IT WAS WORK! And you're proud of it!
See kids...this digging may be FUN...you may think it's not WORK...but in reality it is. When you want that HIGH score in Overwatch...when you want to get to the DIAMOND tier in competitive...what do you have to do? Does Blizzard just hand you that GOLD weapon skin? NO...you have to WORK TOWARDS IT. Emphasis on the word WORK.
Have you ever played any games kids?
This is Warframe, a game based on grinding stuff...doing the same thing over and over and over until you get what you WANT or what you NEED to eventually get what you WANT.
Get over it kids, and get back to grinding (working). If you don't like the game...go play another incarnation of the grind. It's all WORK kids, some of it just looks and feels differently, but don't try to fool anyone. Muscles are twitching, brain cells are sparking and time is flying...motor functions are produced and energy is dispensed in a repetitive process to complete what it is you must do to get what you WANT, and this process is called WORK.
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Things could be worse.
If you're in a clan...it would be best that everyone participate and help with the research cost. If you're in a Moon or Mountain clan and half your roster is inactive....you should consider downsizing.
If you refuse to downsize...you should consider recruiting.
If you want something, you gotta "work" for it.
If you are a "social clan" who doesn't want to "work" for things...don't complain when you don't get stuff as quickly as clans that do "work" for things.
If you expect the new Clan Tech items to magically start researching themselves...you're spoiled and lazy.
Farming for resources is an activity...it may be the same thing over and over again...but it produces an opportunity to build relationships with your clan members by being SOCIAL while farming, I'm looking at you "social" clans.
There are added benefits of farming..specifically for the HEMA....there are other things that can be obtained such as credits, endo, FOCUS, Syndicate reputation and affinity for leveling your frames and added Forma so that you have STRONG and HEALTHY Clam Members that are ready for Warframe Events where you need specific builds with specific FOCUS abilities to produce your best results....not to mention the PRACTICE of working together....
Because, after all, isn't farming together, working together? Isn't that WHY you joined a CLAN to begin with?
Or did you just want to be a wall flower, waiting for the other people in your clan to do all the heavy lifting for you so you can swoop in and reap the rewards?
Frankly, anyone still complaining about this HEMA should be ashamed of yourself. It's far too long to keep crying about this. Do what Clan's are made to do and work together to overcome a challenge that is bigger than the individual. Put in the time, enjoy the moment. Stop trying to force DE to produce instant gratification with every new toy deployment to the game.
Mountain clan Warlord here, and I pushed forward, I woke up my sleepy clan after a break from the game. I advertised farming squads in clan chat, I put in countless hours and donated several 10s of thousands of Mutagen Samples for this silly weapon...and I enjoyed it. In the process I learned who my BEST clan members were. And I learned who the lazy ones where who wanted everyone else to do the "boring" work for them, thos people aren't a part of my clan anymore because it's about everyone putting in an effort so that the work is shared.
"One Hand Out, One hand Helping" That is my motto.
Good luck people, stop crying and start working. Before you know it...it will be over and another thing will replace it. Work for that next thing too and don't cry, find joy in the moment, the opportunity to spend time socializing with your clan members and friends as you gather your resources, your focus, your endo, and affinity...all the things you'd normally be farming for otherwise.
Peace!
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I gotcha fam!
You have been invited to FLOW, We have Discord, We have Teamspeak, we use a Steam Group too!
We have everything everyone else has! But we're 300% Hotter!
And we ranked 3rd out of all Mountain clans in the recent Pacifism Defect Operation and we're not even hardcore competitive!
Here is our Clan Emblem:
And here is our Recruitment Thread:
And here is our Alliance Cinematic Trailer:
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8 hours ago, Alvin97 said:
Greetings!!
I am interested to join your clan.
IGN: Alvin97
2 hours ago, R3yBack said:Hi, i would like to join to your clan. im new but ill try to be helpful.
IGN: R3yBack
Hey, thank you for Going with the FLOW!
Invites have been sent to you both!
Welcome!
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11 hours ago, -Arturia said:
i would love to join the clan. That advertisement was amazing!
IGN: -Arturia
Thank you, it's a bit dated, but still seems to crack a smile.
An invite has been sent. Welcome to Flow!
10 hours ago, Zz_lexi_zZ said:was wondering if i could get a reinvite?
Sure Lexi, an invite has been sent to you.
Welcome back!
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14 hours ago, VinnothAlabama said:
I'm interested to join your clan dude basically i play every and so addicted and my IGN is VinnothAlabama MR15 i do talk and my voice kinna funny hahahaha and being honestly i do send request to other clan too but no clue :( hopefully i become your one of the member :)
10 hours ago, augustus1318 said:yo can I join?
Invites SENT!
I got mine early....but yours will be ready to duplicate soon!
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On 3/4/2017 at 0:27 PM, darkrei2 said:
Hey, can I join? I got back into warframe recently after a year gone.
IGN: darkrei2And invite has been sent to you!
Welcome to FLOW!
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8 hours ago, Muppo said:
hey sorry could you resend the invite
Invite Sent!
Let's get it right the 2nd time!
Welcome to Flow!
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On 3/2/2017 at 6:43 PM, MetalMatteo said:
If you still have open slots i'm in.
23 hours ago, Muppo said:hey, definitely would like to join after being solo for so long
17 hours ago, Skaarx said:Been trying to catch up after taking a break from warframe, would enjoy being in a fun clan
ign: Skaarx
9 hours ago, davisddd13 said:Hi
Would like to try this clan stuff out. Could you invite me?
8 hours ago, Transformed said:Back from a break I took from warframe and looking to get back into it and need a clan, could I get an invite? My IGN is Transformed
7 hours ago, Solrehn said:Hey Polymelodic had me Look into Joining the Flow of Cause, I gotta Say the Front page is Godly, If I could I'd like to Become one with the Flow, If theres a Chance that is, My IGN is Solrehn
WELCOME TO FLOW! INVITES HAVE BEEN SENT YOU ALL!
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4 hours ago, JPBottomz said:
Switched over from PS4 where I was MR12, currently MR8. Still have open spots?
Welcome to the:
And Welcome to FLOW!
An invite has been sent!
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17 hours ago, SigmarUnberogen said:
Can I get an invite to the discord channel ?
Just click this Discord Link: https://discord.gg/3Vh2m
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23 minutes ago, Arniox said:
Lol, ho many kills has the entire population of warframe gotten? I have 400000 alone and my clan has over 4,000,000,000 alone? The total kills over all tenno and all clans would totally well over 100 billion, maybe even a trillion or so. Is this population control or extinction?
Two words: Inbreeding Grineer.
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It's called population control. This has been going on for ages.
★JOIN FLOW★(With Everything Everyone Else Has)★But wait there's MORE!★
in Recruitment
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Hiya XinyuSs,
You are already in a clan, if you want to become 300% Hotter, you'll need to leave your current clan before you can Go with the Flow!
Welcome to Flow! I see you managed to get your invite!
Welcome Back Spikey!
We love you too, and are glad to have you back. My apologies for your removal from the clan, we are experiencing high volumes of new members and had to purge many inactive members to make room.
See you in game!