Kruzil
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I'm curious what the demographics are for those who think these "new" systems are too grindy? What games have these users played before? What is their gaming history like? What are their favorite genres? What MMOs have they played? What's their age? I bet there's some mineable data there.
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Microsoft would never stop DE from making Warframe cross-platform.
Psyonix is already proving that cross-platform play is possible with Rocket League, even if Microsoft doesn't want to cooperate.
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@Epitaxial we share the same brainwave.
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Because if they kept it the same, or made it easier it would leave to an even higher churn rate. People like having stuff to do, even if it seems impossibly never-ending; this is why retired folks get a part-time job after they retire because if it got any easier they'd literally die of boredom.
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@rockscl
Why wouldn't they? If you think controls would be an issue, I play with a controller on PC and often out perform my PC team mates. I actually find the new movement system much more comfortable with a controller, than M+K.
Note: this game is designed around PvE, no one takes Conclave seriously.
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@NKDG
I know what you mean, when I graduated from elementary school things got much easier in middle school. Then after that I decided to go down the path of least resistance and complete high school where things got even easier. Once I breezed through high school, I went to college where it was easier than stealing candy from a baby. I finished that and ultimately decided to get my master's degree in nuclear fission, talk about a snooze-fest. But in order to complete my educational career, I wanted to perform the absolute easiest cake walk of all time and get my doctorate degree in quantum physics. I almost fell asleep it was so easy. Now I'm the most accomplished and successful CEO of all time. Because life expectantly goes from easy to easier in every way, and where I live money does not equal time. Time is something I sit on and money is something I wipe my tears with.
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As an aficionado of Volt since day 1, this would be a nice feature to toggle in options.
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Not at all, there are cross-platform games that are on both PlayStation and Xbox that interact independently with the PC community. If you haven't read my previous posts, Microsoft's policy to cross-platform gaming is the Berlin Wall segregating our communities.
Sony has no problem with this feature!
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I remember when it took me 3 months to gain a single level in Dark Age of Camelot, or 2 months to level up my Artifact weapons in that game, and the only way to do it that quickly was to kill the same spawn camp over and over for hours on end. Mind you, I did that for $15 a month!
I love this new "fresh" mentality of gamers; at least you get to have fun shooting guns, swinging weapons around while going planet to planet. All while never having to spend a single penny on a subscription, congratulations you are spoiled. :)
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Comparing DE to EA, is apples to oranges.
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Before we had nothing, now we have something; if you don't like it.... don't do them?
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Beggars should not be choosers.
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The intention was never to give handouts or create an atmosphere of instant gratification.
Outside of login rewards, I will gladly welcome any system that encourages me to return everyday.
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I doubt instant gratification will become a core mechanic.
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DE is a business and they're not going to make things any easier to acquire, else they lose money. These recent changes boil down to generating additional revenue, they're banking on the idea of people getting fed up and just giving in by way of their wallets. :)
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I do watch the dev streams, not all of them, but the majority of them. I haven't heard them talk about cross-platform play or having a release build for PC, ever. Seriously, when was the last time this was even discussed? 2014? 2013? My question still stands, are these systems still on the table or have they been backlogged so far back that they'll never see the light of day?
@Sloan441 - Do you have a link to these streams?
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Not a single response thus far has had a single credible source saying cross-platform play or a release build for PC is completely off of the table.
Does anyone have anything to prove that this will never happen? Twitter post, wiki page, reddit thread, etc... where can I read this? Google isn't returning anything that's viable.
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The whole purpose of this thread is me trying to bring our community together:
I have a dream that one day this community will rise up and live out the true meaning of its creed: "We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all gamers are created equal!"
I have a dream that one day on the red hills on Mars, the sons of PS4 Tenno and the sons of former PC Tenno will be able to sit down together at the table of Warframe.
I have a dream that one day even the planet of Venus, a planet sweltering with the heat of injustice, sweltering with the heat of Corpus oppression, will be transformed into an oasis of freedom and cross-platform play.
I have a dream that my four little Noggles will one day live in a universe where they will not be judged by the system they play on but by the bobble of their heads.
I have a dream today!
I have a dream that one day, down in the void, with its vicious Corrupted Ancients, with its Neural Sentry having its lens dripping with the words of "interposition" and "nullification" -- one day right here in the void little PS4 Tenno will be able to join hands with little PC Tenno as sisters and brothers.
I have a dream today!
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All of these issues would sit nicely on a test build, rather than being released into production.
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DE doesn't need a defence force.
If a subset of the userbase would like to delay their updates and use an older build in lieu of the most up-to-date version, that syncs with consoles, then DE should consider it - That means; Only getting an update when consoles get their update. The main PC client can continue to be updated as it wishes.
As i said, it could be a launcher option that players must opt into.... The notion of this somehow causing a slowdown is quite silly since the build would have already been released for the main PC clients. All DE need to do is submit to cert the corresponding console version to the deferred PC build, which is what they already do.
So this addresses your concerns with certification as a non-issue if PC users need to opt-into such a feature. This neither brings in any added stress, or workload since the main PC build would have worked through the build already. There is no technical reason why the builds can't be in sync.
The only thing that is an issue is Sony and Microsoft don't want to play ball. And to that, if one or the other doesn't want to co-operate. Do without them and let them [sony/MS] relay their stance to their userbase as to why their console can't play with everybody else.
This.
Are we ever to expect this though? What update do we have to wait for until this happens? Is it even in consideration at this point? Have they completely pushed cross-platform play to the wayside? I would hate to think its been swept under the rug and we're forever doomed to being beta testers for all of Warframe's lifespan.
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@KJRenz
1.) Never were the console versions of Warframe the same build number as the PC version. This is the reason they pushed cross-platform play into their backlog.
2.) The certification process would essentially be "absorbed" by having a public test server/launcher option for PC users.
3.) Sony isn't opposed to cross-platform play by any means, its Microsoft's policy that segregates the gaming communities. Only now with Windows 10 are they even remotely considering cross-platform play for select games strictly between Xbox One and Windows 10.
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I think all of you underestimate the size of DE. Granted Square-Enix may have an excess of 1,000 employees, I guarantee you no more than 200-300 of those employees worked on FFXIV at any given time. Almost certainly does SE have about the same amount of employees as DE supporting FFXIV now.
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yes i need cross-platform, coz so many dead planet out there.
I rest my case.
Steam Awards: Let's all nominate for "Labor of Love"
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I couldn't agree more, let's do this!!
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