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  1. Sean

    Word filter is abysmal

    Though honestly that goes far beyond transgender individuals, that is something that we as a society are pushing further down as a whole. It is unfortunate as that only further constructs the walls that would divide us despite each and everyone here is at the very least human (...hopefully... though I don't trust those forums mods on that one... 😛 ). Usually it just ends up that a person is ignorant of a topic and just simply does not know, or they were told misinformation enough to the point that they believed it, people need to push past that and discuss differing opinions, that is the only way to grow after all.
  2. Sean

    Word filter is abysmal

    Just going to add on to that point, ages ago, it would actually inform you of how long, it's been longer that they turned that off in favor of the current system than when it was active.
  3. Sean

    Word filter is abysmal

    That "us vs them" and "no one can talk about this except me" mentality you're going with is honestly pretty dangerous. People know difficulties and strife, maybe not the same, but you have no idea what the person on the other side of the screen has gone through. Could be a hell of a lot worse... or not.... you don't know. The facts of the matter are that what may be insulting to you is not to the next person. Some people consider "hip, hip, hooray" to be anti-Semitic or Monday to be a racial slur (look it up, its interesting to see the words that people have associated with extreme negativity). If a person truly bothers / is hateful to you, hit that "ignore" button and report them to DE Support (and then there's the in-game report feature).
  4. Sean

    Word filter is abysmal

    Though that is only because of what the chat mod's own statements have been. I also highly suggest to look into their blog, I took a quick peak at it and the behavior there is not something that makes a good moderator. https://i.imgur.com/4nQ6z5F.png This is a snippet from the above image and it is verbatim (it continues on from there), I made bold and underlined the main parts. Bold/Underlined Point 1: Either this is an ego-trip or otherwise what they're saying runs counter to you. (Just stating the facts as both statements compete) Point 2 &, briefly, 3: They make it a point to censor the word "trap" but not "sh*t" (sidenote... what's the point of censoring if everyone knows what is being said :P) Point 3: They are creating an us vs them mentality and are under the illusion that everyone that says that is being transphobic (I doubt people saying it even know what "trap" means in the context of that chatmod), instead really just memeing and following the rules of the "Streisand Effect" Point 4: That duration is excessive for something only a small number of people are actually offended by. I know it's being looked at in-house from what @[DE]Drew stated earlier, but I just wanted to inform you of where people are citing that chatmods have affected the ban system to suit their own agenda.
  5. Sean

    Word filter is abysmal

    How do you not get this? The filter that would be enabled by default would be LITERALLY THE SAME THING USED CURRENTLY. So... that means that if you cannot see it in the current system, then you cannot see it UNLESS YOU OPT-OUT. I don't know how much simpler I have to make that. I find minor words like "trap", "Niger" (you know? the country), "gay", and even the word "f*ck" (though this one is odd as it isn't 100%) to have bans tied to them being hostile as it is dangerous to have instant bans (without warning, without duration given, and without reason given) for such simple words. I also said one of the other meanings of the term "rape", so again, "ear rape" is correct usage due to it meaning "an outrageous violation", it is just that " an outrageous violation " can apply to a large range of things, which is where it can be applied to sexual assault. Having words like "Monday" banned is none-more ridiculous as the word "trap". A very small group of people that happened to have moderator privilege treated it as an insult and pushed to make it ban-worthy. "Monday" is a racial slur to some people, more than likely the same number of people that find "trap" offensive. I did a bit of looking into on the word "trap" too, it initially was tied to the term "Trap Queen" which was not an insult, there's groups of people that use "trap" endearingly, so that word is only an insult because a small group of people wanted it to be one. Also, just because YOU consider a word an insult to your world, doesn't mean the next person does, that's why a custom list is really the best way to go.
  6. Sean

    Word filter is abysmal

    "should not have to opt out of seeing slurs in the chat." ...just... lmao. It would obviously be something enabled by default. The only "opting out" you'd do is if you didn't care about what words people used when it is in a normal context. And for your "rape" comment, the term "rape" can also mean "an outrageous violation" so if something is hurting someone's ears, then "ear rape" is the correct usage of the word. It is the context that matters. Anything can be used offensively, if someone called someone an "idiotic moron", those words would not be censored in the current system and the bot would ignore that user even though the context is very negative, that user should then be reported, but again, the bot isn't going to be useful in that situation.
  7. Sean

    Word filter is abysmal

    The main thing that is frustrating with DE lately on quite a few matters isn't so much the "direction", but it ultimately boils down to two things: An obvious intent to ignore feedback Even if it is privately not being ignored, without stating otherwise publicly leads to the same result when no actions have been performed in a positive direction Lack of transparency on motivations If it is a legal matter, then as said previously, then just state that. People can be understanding if they're given honesty. Except it isn't due to numerous factors that have been detailed. Ignoring an issue doesn't make it nonexistent and the fact that you keep pretending there isn't one is enabling bad practices. The current system is deeply flawed and there are substantially better alternatives.
  8. Sean

    Word filter is abysmal

    Ah, alright, thanks for clearing that up you two. Will edit my previous response on that matter to link to both of your posts to cover the situation on if someone misses them. and @[DE]Drew... it hasn't gone unnoticed some of the things you're skipping over in here, lol.
  9. Sean

    Word filter is abysmal

    Updated post: Both @Letter13 and @[DE]Drew have confirmed that moderators of any kind (so both in-game Chat Moderators and the Forum Moderators) do not have access to the Community Inbox. You can find their posts on the matter later on in this topic or within the below links: https://forums.warframe.com/topic/958862-word-filter-is-abysmal/?page=8&tab=comments#comment-9790506 https://forums.warframe.com/topic/958862-word-filter-is-abysmal/?page=9&tab=comments#comment-9790607 ----- Original post: Ooof.... yeah... that probably shouldn't happen, lol.
  10. Sean

    Word filter is abysmal

    Though I've had Community Inbox replies takes often over a month, is there anywhere else in case it is something more time-sensitive? Anything though on my post here? Would really be helpful to have some feedback. https://forums.warframe.com/topic/958862-word-filter-is-abysmal/?page=7&tab=comments#comment-9790201
  11. Sean

    Word filter is abysmal

    Alright, I can respect that. If you wouldn't mind, I'd appreciate some feedback on my idea here: Additionally, why does the current system just ban without giving the person who is banned information on the "why" and the duration?
  12. Sean

    Word filter is abysmal

    Except when a moderator believes that everyone saying "nezha is a trap" is a, and I quote (though I'm censoring it), a "transphobic piece of sh*t", then there is something wrong. They even opted to censor the word "trap" but not "sh*t". The majority of people saying that at this point I would highly doubt are actually being transphobic, as I mentioned above, it's more of the Streisand Effect. Then to add on, they state that the trigger phrases they have gotten added are working really well because "[they've] seen a lot of angry users". That isn't good, that is terrible behavior, and an abuse of privilege. Those individuals are creating an "us vs them" mentality, and it only seems to be getting worse. And again, I've only seen the word "trap" used negatively in one area, and that's within Warframe's kick system. By that logic, we should ban the word "Monday" too.
  13. Sean

    Word filter is abysmal

    The current filter covers one chat, it then uses up space within the chatbox itself, and if a word is detected then it removes the whole line, so no, that is not in the game.
  14. Sean

    Word filter is abysmal

    It does seem we're getting there unfortunately where context is flat-out ignored.
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    Word filter is abysmal

    Ironically, I've only ever seen it treated as an insult by the kickbot itself. From what I've looked into, it seems more of a term co-opted as an insult, initially being "Trap Queen" which wasn't used as such, then it somehow got twisted into being one, but again, only ever seen it be used as such by those banning over it. It follows a similar path as this: https://www.bostonglobe.com/ideas/2012/07/28/how-did-monday-become-racist-slur-how-did-monday-become-racist-slur/Mf4fQEVcXabGKHFaDMZ4NO/story.html Anything can be an insult if used in that way, it is down to the context after all. Honestly, if it was left alone, I doubt anyone would actually say "nezha is a trap" in any form at this point, the people who say it now are basically memeing; it's the "Streisand Effect".