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    Why do people in trade chat get mad when you aren't willing to pay their price?

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    4 minutes ago, (PS4)Coyote_x_Starrk said:

    I know you already explained, but what else am I gonna do while sitting on my butt trading my odds and ends. This thread and my Simulor thread are entertaining as hell. 

    Beats region chat or clan chat. 

    I know :D Already got some popcorn for your simulor thread :3 Unfortunely it's not salty enough. But we all know, your thread will fix it :D

    Why do people in trade chat get mad when you aren't willing to pay their price?

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    2 minutes ago, Beggining said:

    Whoa, now. The reaction was understandable, but unecessary: I'd be hurt if someone haggled almost half the price off my offer, especially one way below market price, but I'd at least explain my reasoning and NOT ignore the buyer. If the buyer still disagree, then that's that; no need for insulting and blocking.

    Then again, trade chat seems to bring out the worst in people...

     

    Glad you are patient enough. Don't forget that all people different and have different circumstances. And yes, money always bring out the worst in people, isn't it obvious?:D

    Why do people in trade chat get mad when you aren't willing to pay their price?

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    14 minutes ago, (PS4)Coyote_x_Starrk said:

    Trading must be VERY different on PC then. I haven't paid what someone has wanted for an item in a VERY long time. Like a few days ago a guy wanted 325 for Rhino prime and I ended up paying 230p and junk prime parts. 

     

    My rule of thumb is the more they ask they lower I go. 

    -They want 20? I offer 10-15 

    - They want 70? I offer 45-50 

    -They want 100? I offer 65-70

    -They want 150? I offer 100 

    And so on. 

    And more often than not it works. Because its just close enough to their number that they might be desperate enough to take that much off for an immediate sale rather than keep holding the item but its still low enough for me that I always get a good deal. 

     

    There is nothing wrong with not wanting to pay full market value. In fact its smarter that you don't. 

     

    Well, what can i say bout your rules? Atm you have no item which you wanted ,but instead you have been insulted. Think about it :D

     

    P.S. I'll try to provide a way more reasonable feedback.

    Sometimes, people selling for an acutally fair price (like your guy, 115pl for Akstilleto is fair enough) and when they meet people who trying to lowball even more (sorry, but that is what you did there with your 65 offer), it's natural to block or insult them back. Because, in my opinion, lowballing is the same kind of insult as bad words or insane behavior. :D
    About your rules, wll yes. That is what trading is. You buy cheaper then sell higher. However, you should realize that not all people are kind or polite or simply have enough patient to reply for 100 low / stupid offers in a row, so you might be the victim of your own lowballing :D

    Why do people in trade chat get mad when you aren't willing to pay their price?

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    1 hour ago, (PS4)Tactless_Ninja said:

    I responded to someone asking for a mod. They set their own price and everything. I message I have the mod. Immediately ignored/blocked. Like....wut? :awkward: It's nonsense.

     

    57 minutes ago, ToKeSia said:

    Yesterday, i got that too. i was telling him that i got that mod and willing to sell with his offer, then he invite me to his dojo and suddenly leave the dojo while ignore me. I don't know what happen . . .

    I can tell you what happen :D It's common for online trading. Some sort of conspiracy for profit :D One person states WTB certain mod for, let's say, 100pl. Another one says WTS this mod for 70pl. Real price for that mod is 50pl. So, some people might try to get easy plat by buying for 70 and selling for 100.  I bet you saw a good oportunity to sell your mod for a higher price and here we are, you got ignored. Because the real sale wasn't the purpose of this.
     

    Responding to OP (another whine post, same OP. Hello!), You offered a cheap price and then started to "explaining" yourself. Nobody needs that in trading.

    You see the price: 1) you are fine with it and you buy it. 2) you are not fine with it...skip it. 3) you can try to negotiate, but this works not really often.

    P.S. 70 pl for  Akstilleto set really low. I guess you better wait for the better days.
     

    Balancing PvE

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    3 minutes ago, Ailissa said:

    I think we've already established that damage 3.0 is probably not going to happen in the next 2 years if ever. 

    The hope never dies :D
    And well, if you ask me...Damage 3.0 is the most needed thing this far.

    Can we please nerf Mirage + Simulor?

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    Posted · Edited by WhyNotBro

    May i ask? If you met on your path a wall, will you call the police or try to jump over? Or maybe more logicaly would be just to go round the obstacle?:D

    The point is...your pesronal defenition of fun and how things must be setted up is only your own. Other people might think in a differnt way and it's okay.

    Yeah, i don't like when i meet in my squad Mirage with Simulor, but you know what? I'm free to leave or just finish the mission quickly if i'm going for the reward itself. And this is completely okay.

    Also, like others said :D Sometimes i'm lazy / tired too much to do all things by myself and then i let people do whatever it needs to do, so someone with Mira + Simulor just perfect for it <3
     

    So many men, so many minds, you know!

    Banshee's anti-fun sound quake

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    5 minutes ago, ChasePanic said:

     

    How about instead of forcing three people to leave squad and try again, we get a kick vote option so those 3 players can use majority vote to remove the player they don't want to be teamed with? After all, if all three people would vote to kick the fourth, isn't that going to reach the same goal while minimising the effort exerted by all parties?

    Yeah might be a good option. I would vote for it.

    Banshee's anti-fun sound quake

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    41 minutes ago, Ksaero said:

    1) Yeah, search every respawn point to find the enemies immobilized for entire mission. Much fun.

    2) I don't have any problem killing them. The problem is that they can't shoot back at all.

    3) More and more lately. Reminds me of "nice" and "fun" times with Mirage Prism.

    4) I thought the whole idea of a game was to have at least some challenge.

    1) Yeah i can understand that. At some point you are right. But once again :D This is your own definition of fun. And if the situation isn't what you are looking for...well, you are free to re-join the mission. It's okay.

    2) Guess i can reply the same what i said in first paragraph.

    3) Don't you see?:D First we had Saryn, then Ash or Mirage with her Prism. Now Banshee. Even if DE will nerf her, people will find another way to spam aoe. This is not about specific frames, it's all about human nature. We (fine,not all of us) are lazy. Especially if you have done something so many times you can't even remember. This is natural to try to make all things easier and quicker. Routine sucks.

    4) Well...i don't even know what to say :D Yes, i'm looking for more chalenges in this game, it's true. However, the main idea of all online games is...press X Y times, kill N enemies, obain Z items. Repeat. Repeat once again. Aaaand once more. Here we go, you are awesome. If you got some fun while you were doing this...grats. If not...your own problem, seems like you entered a wrong place. About Warframe...why you think the idea of this game was about bring some chalenges? More likely it's about farm everything in this game. The definition of  chalenge also kinda subjective. And mostly the player decides what to do. I mean...if you want a chalenge take sniper rifle and go infested surv, for example :D The game itself doesn't bring almsot none of chalenges. Sorties...easy. Raids? After 2-3 runs it's easy too. What else?

    Banshee's anti-fun sound quake

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    4 minutes ago, Ksaero said:

    People complain about abilities that stop all the action.

    People can run and kill these mobs, you know :D Not a big deal, really.

    5 minutes ago, Ksaero said:

    With the current Sound Quake at interceptions it's more like boring-enemy-seizure simulator.

    1) The definition of fun is a very subjective thing. 
    2) Go and kill these enemies, what's the problem?
    3) How often do you see Banshee with a correct ulty build on interceptions?
    4) I thought the whole idea of interception was about to block enemies untill you capture all spots Oo

    Banshee's anti-fun sound quake

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    5 minutes ago, NinjaKitsune56 said:

    Yeah, but not all of them can hit everything in range. Mesa can only focus on one at a time. Hydroid can only pin down as many enemies as there are tentacles. Ash can only hit up to 18 targets. Ember's is (if anything) more controlled since it hits up to five at any one time... there are limits to all of them... Banshee, though, is a case of "Get to mid-map, pop an energy pad and hit 4." After that, they hit everything within range that isn't a Tenno or friendly.

    Once enemy reaches her / energy goes down - she is dead. You always have to decide what exactly you go for. Like other people said, it's not possible to build her with max str / en eff / range at once. Sounds fair enough, if you ask me.

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