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I appreciate the higher daily endo greatly. I should be getting somewhere between 200-250 every day which will be nice. I don't often need copious amounts of endo right now but when it builds up and boom a new prime mod drops, or more umbra mods, i'll have it ready to go, and i can sell more sculptures i guess.

I still want milestones to be decreased, that was the main issue with the current system was how it takes 700 days to get every weapon or 800 to get all the primed mods, which is an obscene amount, even if it's just loading the game logging in and closing again. I'm glad i have the sigma and octantis, but i know other people who started today would appreciate it if they can get it sooner, or all the weapons sooner rather (since i guess you can pick and choose now which is super nice) I don't have some sort of superiority complex about my prestige or whatever just because i'm here with most of the things at my 700 some odd days like apparently some people are.

Get this stuff out into the player base sooner, don't make them wait on it.

 

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5 minutes ago, RottedApples said:

I appreciate the higher daily endo greatly. I should be getting somewhere between 200-250 every day which will be nice. I don't often need copious amounts of endo right now but when it builds up and boom a new prime mod drops, or more umbra mods, i'll have it ready to go, and i can sell more sculptures i guess.

I login for 4 days and get a thousand endo? It's like energy siphon, but it's giving me endo! It is good. 

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What about true veterans that have more than 900 days (for example) but before the logging system?

It's like you're rewarding people loyal to the daily logging more than loyal to the game through several years.

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5 hours ago, (PS4)thebigstink1206 said:

So you guys are just gunna give the Zenistar and similar weapons away to early player while semi-veterans and veterans (like myself) sit here with nothing new. Hook our a*s's up DE! Aint fair that they can get their zenith or zenistar at day 100 while we had to wait. Make a Zeni-Warframe and give it to those who feel this way. 😠

I absoloutly love the game, its my all time favorite. But you guys are making some bad choices, and getting people angry! This Excalibur Prime dilema where u r buffing his energy is just as fair as the new login system (That is, it's not fair.) I've paid then your average founder and from the moment i got the game ive been supporting (Joined around saryn prime's release.). 😞

 

Buffing his energy?? Do you have a source for that? I hope they are.

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What if every 1 hour played increased your daily tribute rewards by 0.05% of the base ? That means that:

 

500 hours = +25% 

1000 hours = +50%

1500 = +75%

2000 hours = +100%

 

This all leads up to getting 1200 endo every day after the 2000 hour and 1000 day milestone in the current proposed system... If my math is right. If you think that's crazy, you'd still have to login for weeks to fully upgrade a primed mod.

This would be highly rewarding to "true veterans" (assuming you spend most of your time not role playing in vesper) whilst leaving room to modify the rest of the system.

An argument could be made that people would just login and go afk for many hours, but people people login just to get daily tribute as it is - so I wouldn't change whole lot. So maybe the timer on that could stop if the game detects inactivity - similar to being ineligible to get rewards from inactivity in missions. 

In the end, this might be too complex of a thing. The daily rewards might become an issue if they become(more?) of a core mechanic of this game.

 

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-The new Scaling day-to-day scales better 👍

-Separate rewards in categories it limits you in future reward creativity?

-Primed Mods and Weapons, never have to be tradable.

-I think Lodestar Brand are the most anticipated ,so the Cosmetics too as th Weapons need that feeling to have an unique feature.

-Personally after i reach 400+ logins .I am more happy to start my daily by getting more often 3h daily booster and not like to get them from sortie.I suggest to change the 3d booster reward with 4000 kuva.

 

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I honestly never liked the fact Weapons and Prime Mods were gated behind number of days logged in. Thought it was a terrible idea back then and think it's still a bad idea. However, I do like we now have a choice in are rewards. Still think the rewards should be cosmetic only. Waiting almost 2-3 years for a weapon or mod is just insane. You could argue that Primed Shred is  a large DPS increase but waiting longer for something like Prime Sure Footed? Especially when recovery speed is better because it doesn't lock you into an animation. Still, I like that there is choice now. I just feel cosmetics should be login rewards and weapon and mods should be earned through actual gameplay, not simply typing in a password and booting up the game just to close it one minute later.

 

Also, scaling rewards is great! Truly, thanks for that! That is awesome.

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It sounds good so far, but I have a few questions and comments.

You say you can choose the reward mechanic, is this blind choosing or absolute choosing?  So are we playing three card monte or we can see what we are selecting?

I kind of feel the endo rewards and possibly even the amount of resource rewards needs to be a little higher.  Not saying we need sortie level endo, but maybe a little higher, maybe an extra 50 on the numbers presented.  

I am not sure, but I think there needs to be a reminder:  This system is to encourage playing daily and to keep playing in the future.  Asking for basing this system solely on MR is kind of a huge step back.  Any player can quickly get to a higher MR.  That being the case yeah you can get most of the good rewards in a shorter time than years (days or even months) if MR only was the case, but then what?  Feels kind of like setting up a poor quality of life solely for grofit.  So blending of both daily login times and MR feels more balanced.  

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I feel like this is a step in the right direction, but it's such a weird step that you might twist your ankle like for anyone about to hit the login bonus they are aiming for right now it says hey you have to wait wayyyy longer; also there is the problem of scaling rewards is a good idea but for them to scale this small is negligible at this point you could give us nothing in between the milestones and I would be unfazed because non of them are worth it I'm MR 24 so I get 300 endo on average now great except I don't care, I only care about getting closer to the milestone and getter platinum discounts because that is the only way platinum cost is worth.

The reward table in the daily login system is vast enough in my opinion to be able to have better rewards like what if one day I just gut 3000 endo instead of the bland 300 not even all the time just once in a while it gives morale to do something and even helps with the large quantities of endo I need same for the other resources. In my opinion this way it would make players want to play; not log in just for the next step closer to the milestone and then log out which is what I find myself doing recently.

TL;DR MAKE PLAYERS WANT TO PLAY WITH BETTER REWARDS NOT IGNORE POULTRY REWARDS AND WAIT 3+ YEARS FOR WORTH WHILE MILESTONES.

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Personally I was really hoping the whole system was getting ripped down to the studs and reworked. But it really feels like it's more along the lines of some Spackle and a coat of fresh paint. 

It's definitely nicer than it was but it could be so much nicer, open floor plan nicer. 

 

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everything in the OP looks great honestly 

but there is no mention of the perpetually 'worthless' rewards like : 1 tellurium, 1 orokin cell, 1 morphics

plz replace the incredibly tiny resource rewards with something more functionally valuable like kuva/cryo that scales similar to the endo rewards

also since the game is growing and expanding, giving us eidolon cores/synthetic shards/etc and/or other syndicate rep thru the login reward is not bad {i know this already exists for the 6 relay syndicates, but the login rewards offer nothing for ostrons/quills/simaris/any-all-new-coming-stuff/etc 

there is really a LOT of upward creative room for login rewards that are not worthless, ie wisps, heart nyth/radian sentrium, etc 

jus sayin =]

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I hate this.

So basically those who are just a few days away from the mod/weapon milestones are screwed? PLEASE tell me you've had the foresight to address those of  us who are just a few days (from today) from reaching those important milestones. There's going to be a grace period of some sort for those of us who reaches it right? RIGHT?!

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At almost 800 days logged in and I don't know how many before the reset I don't like these changes. While the rewards need to be better for those of us who are in deep. New players need something to work towards. Not to mention the people who are going to have missed milestones because of these changes. I'm Mastery Rank 25 with god knows how many hours sunk in playing and formaing weapons and frames. I do like the idea of enhanced rewards for higher Mastery Ranks. The way this reads on paper is not the way to go.

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No trade is the correct decision. These kind of stuff should never be tradable due to potential for multiple account farming.

BTW, what happens to the platinum discounts? I'm still waiting for my -75%.😔

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I think the consecutive day rewards are underwhelming. At 900+ days played no one is excited about getting 300 endo.

A chance at 3000 end a day though (aside from sorties) after 900+ logins? That's exciting.

There's also the fact that some mods require tens of thousands of endo to upgrade and 300 hardly registers as a drop in the bucket. And it's a daunting tasks to upgrade them as a new or returning player who wasn't around when endo was put in the game.

This is probably a topic for a different thread though.

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