SnazzyZ Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Just now, ----DB----DeepBluEgg said: So, it is a shotgun at the end. What is the problem that you are having ? No, it is a laser/flamethrower at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neith7 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 As long as it's not like the Phage which requires you to use iron sights to hit something. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
----DB----DeepBluEgg Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 1 minute ago, Lancelot185 said: You can fire it for almost 2 continuous seconds! Whew! I can definitely see a magazine nerf incoming. Please did you read my main opinion ? If it is not magazine cap, it will be another that will get a nerf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShiraHagane Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Just now, ----DB----DeepBluEgg said: So, it is a shotgun at the end. What is the problem that you are having ? imagine if the quanta had a magazine size of 23, you're saying that is too high Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AlbatrozSteak Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Is Nezha deluxe coming in this patch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShiraHagane Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 1 minute ago, AlbatrozSteak said: Is Nezha deluxe coming in this patch? no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xolgys Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 vor 1 Minute schrieb Neith7: As long as it's not like the Phage which requires you to use iron sights to hit something. untrue but i agree that phages beam focus needs a QOL. the weapon itself is great tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zyneris Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 I'm going to die waiting for this q.q Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
----DB----DeepBluEgg Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 1 minute ago, PolarFall said: No, it is a laser/flamethrower at the end. Yea sure, Please send your opinion to developers and ask them to change arca plasmor, quanta, opticor and all other weapons which uses some kinda laser / beam to laser/ flamethrower section. 😄 Developers set the category of these weapons. They are what they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShiraHagane Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Just now, ----DB----DeepBluEgg said: Yea sure, Please send your opinion to developers and ask them to change arca plasmor, quanta, opticor and all other weapons which uses some kinda laser / beam to laser/ flamethrower section. 😄 Developers set the category of these weapons. They are what they are. Are you saying that the quanta, ignis, and phantasma are not continuous weapons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnazzyZ Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, ----DB----DeepBluEgg said: Yea sure, Please send your opinion to developers and ask them to change arca plasmor, quanta, opticor and all other weapons which uses some kinda laser / beam to laser/ flamethrower section. 😄 Developers set the category of these weapons. They are what they are. arca plasmor is a slug style shotgun. opticore is a BFG laser. quanta is a constant damage laser. Beam weapons are already regarded as their own type of weapon, they just dont have a custom mod type. Weapon FUNCTION determines what a weapon is, weapon MODS determine what mods the weapon scales off of. not once did I say they should be lumped together, simply that for a laser those stats are not great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
----DB----DeepBluEgg Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Just now, ShiraHagane said: Are you saying that the quanta, ignis, and phantasma are not continuous weapons? For love of god, don't twist the words. Their category has been set by developers long time ago. Deal with it. İgnis is rifle, quanta is rifle etc. Arca is shotgun. I can't change that, you can change that. Why are you still arguing which has already set ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnazzyZ Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 1 minute ago, ----DB----DeepBluEgg said: For love of god, don't twist the words. Their category has been set by developers long time ago. Deal with it. İgnis is rifle, quanta is rifle etc. Arca is shotgun. I can't change that, you can change that. Why are you still arguing which has already set ? nobody is saying to change their mod type. you are misunderstanding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
----DB----DeepBluEgg Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 1 minute ago, PolarFall said: arca plasmor is a slug style shotgun. opticore is a BFG laser. quanta is a constant damage laser. Beam weapons are already regarded as their own type of weapon, they just dont have a custom mod type. Weapon FUNCTION determines what a weapon is, weapon MODS determine what mods the weapon scales off of. While you are explaining in theoric, philosophical meaning of weapons, we can't use rifle mods on shotguns, shotgun mods on rifles. So basicly, they are what they are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShiraHagane Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Just now, ----DB----DeepBluEgg said: While you are explaining in theoric, philosophical meaning of weapons, we can't use rifle mods on shotguns, shotgun mods on rifles. So basicly, they are what they are. So what you're saying is that if the phantasma was listed as a rifle, you would suddenly change your opinion on the magazine capacity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
----DB----DeepBluEgg Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Just now, ShiraHagane said: So what you're saying is that if the phantasma was listed as a rifle, you would suddenly change your opinion on the magazine capacity? Whatever. Please read the my main message 1st. I am standing what i was defending. You are the one who is constantly changing subject and throwing out some different things into subject. I honestly don't have any idea what you are defending or what you are trying to say. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnazzyZ Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 3 minutes ago, ShiraHagane said: So what you're saying is that if the phantasma was listed as a rifle, you would suddenly change your opinion on the magazine capacity? Leave him be, he doesn't understand that beams and shotguns are completely different v-v Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShiraHagane Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Just now, ----DB----DeepBluEgg said: Whatever. Please read the my main message 1st. I am standing what i was defending. You are the one who is constantly changing subject and throwing out some different things into subject. I honestly don't have any idea what you are defending or what you are trying to say. Thank you. You know what's great? Adding unnecessary lines to posts I'm trying to say that a continuous weapon, regardless of which mod pool is used, shouldn't have to reload after 2 seconds of firing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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----DB----DeepBluEgg Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Just now, PolarFall said: Leave him be, he doesn't understand that beams and shotguns are completely different v-v Says who are telling me arca is not shotgun it is a beam weapon which uses shotgun mod. In theory, you are right. Practical in warframe, it is defines as shotgun which is not using standard pellets mechanic. It uses shotgun mods. So it is a shotgun in warframe game. If you don't get it, i have nothing to say anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
--RV--arm4geddon-117 Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 =_= Phantasma what have they done with you ? dominant dmg type impact, the worse, small magazine, beam mechanic *sad*, It looks so badass i was really hyped to have some fancy sentient slugs or laser'ish pellet effects Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WifiGamerPt Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 Hahahaha soon... at least they say soon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnazzyZ Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 1 minute ago, ----DB----DeepBluEgg said: Says who are telling me arca is not shotgun it is a beam weapon which uses shotgun mod. In theory, you are right. Practical in warframe, it is defines as shotgun which is not using standard pellets mechanic. It uses shotgun mods. So it is a shotgun in warframe game. If you don't get it, i have nothing to say anymore. arca IS a shotgun. it fires plasma slugs (a type of shotgun round) and uses shotgun MODS Phantasma is a BEAM weapon, it fires a constant beam of damage and chews through ammo very fast (which is why people have said the magazine is bad). and uses shotgun MODS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OperationCats Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 2 hours ago, Sarge_Tarmus said: What about his signature katana? coming with melee 3.0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShiraHagane Posted August 23, 2018 Share Posted August 23, 2018 1 minute ago, ----DB----DeepBluEgg said: Says who are telling me arca is not shotgun it is a beam weapon which uses shotgun mod. In theory, you are right. Practical in warframe, it is defines as shotgun which is not using standard pellets mechanic. It uses shotgun mods. So it is a shotgun in warframe game. If you don't get it, i have nothing to say anymore. Nobody said the arca plasmor is a beam weapon, nice one. And you're the one who doesn't get it. It doesn't matter whether the phantasma is a rifle or a shotgun, it's a weapon with a continuous fire mode that has to reload after 2 seconds of firing, and that is ridiculous, seeing as the next lowest magazine firing time for continuous weapons is just over 4 seconds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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