JohnnyMeta Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Similar with the lenses but the BP could only get as a reward for sorties. The Manufacturing requirements: (it's just a guess) 500.000 Credits 10.000 kuva 3 Forma 10 Orokin cell 25 neurodes The sacrifice necessary to create the umbra polarity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnarlsDarkley Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 DE already said they will not introduce such Forma Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Hikuro-93 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Again... DE said no, most of the community agreed and there's several pretty great and good reasons for it not to be a thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aisu9 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSG501 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 5 minutes ago, (PS4)Pauloluisx said: Again... DE said no, most of the community agreed and there's several pretty great and good reasons for it not to be a thing. not sure where the community agreed... most of the people I know would like an umbra forma... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hixlysss Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 As everyone else has pointed out...DE said no. BUT DE also said "No PVP, No walking pets, No dancing" and...we have all of those things. So, who knows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)RPColten Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Why not, so long as they can only be applied to Umbra specific Warframes and weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayden_Tenno Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, (XB1)RPColten said: Why not, so long as they can only be applied to Umbra specific Warframes and weapons. that would mean more umbra specific frames and weapons. I'm all for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ada_Wong_SG Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 (edited) 27 minutes ago, JohnnyMeta said: Similar with the lenses but the BP could only get as a reward for sorties. The Manufacturing requirements: (it's just a guess) 500.000 Credits 10.000 kuva 3 Forma 10 Orokin cell 25 neurodes The sacrifice necessary to create the umbra polarity 1,000,000 Credits. 100 Nitain Extract 500 Argon Crystal 5 Orokin Catalyst 5 Orokin Reactor Using on Umbra Warframe/ Weapon is normal Primed warframe/ weapon - The item have 75% chance of being destroyed in the process With 60% chance of Base stats reduction by 25% even if not destroyed. Regular item - Dark Forma have 90% chance of destroying the item in the process With 80% chance of Base stats reduction by 50% even if not destroyed. Edited August 29, 2018 by Ada_Wong_SG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Hikuro-93 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 1 minute ago, LSG501 said: not sure where the community agreed... most of the people I know would like an umbra forma... That tends to happen when one's sight is biased, we only see what we want. But don't worry, I'll go with that before using logic. First, don't confuse "the loudest" with "the majority". I've seen most people be against it because the decision not to use umbral forma is a logic one. But now let's get to the logic part, which is where I tell that majorities and loud groups are totally irrelevant for either side. An Umbral forma can't happen because it's meant for Umbral frames, sentient-killing frames, and since the sentient are supposed to be the enemy above all other factions with special stats we need special gear to fight them. That gear is Umbra Frames, Umbra Weapons, which use Umbral and Sacrificial mods. These mods power-up each other. So now tell me, everyone already complains Warframe is too easy and there's no endgame, everything is trivial. So why do we need those overpowered mods on regular gear to fight regular enemies? So that the Umbra variant gets nerfed to the ground after players complain about its power? So that even the sentient fight becomes ruined? No, I say let's keep stuff where it belongs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Hikuro-93 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 8 minutes ago, (XB1)RPColten said: Why not, so long as they can only be applied to Umbra specific Warframes and weapons. This is something I could go with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SenorClipClop Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 At this point, I'm pretty okay with Umbral Forma not existing until much later in Warframe's development when we have several Umbral frame/weapon options. I'd have to re-evaluate my stance on them at that point. Right now, I'd be okay with regular Forma allowing Umbral things (Excal Umbra and Skiajati) to replace any of their erased Umbral polarities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aisu9 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Or maybe yes, but only on umbra stuff ,we already become almost imortal, and whe can one shot sentient without any problem, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)watt4hem Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 39 minutes ago, Ada_Wong_SG said: 100 Nitain Extract 500 Argon Crystal Satan, please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSG501 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 (edited) 48 minutes ago, (PS4)Pauloluisx said: That tends to happen when one's sight is biased, we only see what we want. But don't worry, I'll go with that before using logic. First, don't confuse "the loudest" with "the majority". I've seen most people be against it because the decision not to use umbral forma is a logic one. But now let's get to the logic part, which is where I tell that majorities and loud groups are totally irrelevant for either side. An Umbral forma can't happen because it's meant for Umbral frames, sentient-killing frames, and since the sentient are supposed to be the enemy above all other factions with special stats we need special gear to fight them. That gear is Umbra Frames, Umbra Weapons, which use Umbral and Sacrificial mods. These mods power-up each other. So now tell me, everyone already complains Warframe is too easy and there's no endgame, everything is trivial. So why do we need those overpowered mods on regular gear to fight regular enemies? So that the Umbra variant gets nerfed to the ground after players complain about its power? So that even the sentient fight becomes ruined? No, I say let's keep stuff where it belongs. That doesn't look like I'm the one who's being biased.... You're also the one that had a blanket statement about the community agreeing with DE about not wanting any when I haven't seen anything of the sort, especially amongst the people I know in game etc. Not to mention in all of that post you still don't show where the community has said they actually agree with DE's decision, it only shows YOUR view point, I didn't know you were the ENTIRE community.... and you say I'm the one being biased lol Edited August 29, 2018 by LSG501 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)SweatyPick3L Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 56 minutes ago, LSG501 said: not sure where the community agreed... most of the people I know would like an umbra forma... I mean I wouldn't complain if they did release an Umbra forma. My Mesa would be eternally greatful. My Mesa be like: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rayden_Tenno Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 I just want more umbra weapons and The New War. Gimme those quests DE! ❤️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)RPColten Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 4 hours ago, (XB1)RDeschain82 said: I mean I wouldn't complain if they did release an Umbra forma. My Mesa would be eternally greatful. My Mesa be like: Offtopic, but all three Umbra mods would be a waste on Mesa. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)SweatyPick3L Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 (edited) 23 minutes ago, (XB1)RPColten said: Offtopic, but all three Umbra mods would be a waste on Mesa. Having Umbral polarities would just allow me to max out my current build. Edited August 29, 2018 by (XB1)RDeschain82 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miser_able Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 Sure, but it can only be used to return a polarity back to an umbra polarity after it had been forma-Ed away and you can only do it once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Krism- Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 2 hours ago, Ada_Wong_SG said: 500 Argon Crystal Try to make it realistic, at least :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)robotwars7 Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 not gonna happen, but hopefully regular Forma will be allowed o grant Umbra Polarity in the future, once our Umbra Mod catalogue has expanded sufficiently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oreades Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 5 hours ago, GnarlsDarkley said: DE already said they will not introduce such Forma If they keep adding Umbra frames and Umbra mods, they're going to be hard pressed to keep that promise. Especially since they have also said that every frame isn't going to get an Umbra. Which is all fun and games until (insert your favorite frame) doesn't make the cut. Which leaves you with the option of just ignoring the Umbra mods or totally jacking over your build in a desperate attempt to shoehorn them in. Tho even if they don't add Umbra Forma, they really need to address the whole Forma system cause in it's current form it's one of Warframes systems that actively discourages build diversity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)SweatyPick3L Posted August 29, 2018 Share Posted August 29, 2018 46 minutes ago, Oreades said: totally jacking over your build I mean I have a legit 7 forma Umbral Mesa build, and I believe it to be the pinnacle of Mesa builds. I don't consider my build "jacked over". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xveganrox Posted August 30, 2018 Share Posted August 30, 2018 5 hours ago, (XB1)RPColten said: Offtopic, but all three Umbra mods would be a waste on Mesa. What Mesa doesn't run ability strength mods? Umbral Intensify gives 14% more than Intensify by itself. And if you're running Vitality too, Umbral Intensify gives as much ability strength as Transient Fortitude without the duration reduction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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