That1Cactus Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 So in today's devstream when they briefly showed how the new Daily Tribute functions and heard that the Lodestar Syandana and Armor will remain in their milestones. And that's just outright unfair. Players should not have to play for 2-3 years just to get cosmetics that would fit with the weapons that can freely be chosen on a milestone, especially if they're coming here fresh with the new changes and being able to choose their other milestone rewards, especially the weapons that fit with the cosmetics. You should definitely reconsider what was said and put the Lodestar cosmetics in the same availability as the other milestone rewards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
seprent Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 personally im pretty neutral about it on one hand its nice because it gives you something to look forward to and enjoy it on the other it would be nice to get it sooner but DE has to think of both sides of the spectrum of players and their jsut cosmetics is it really that big of a deal seems like a mountain out of a ant hill to me personally there just cosmetics they dont do much and they dont interest me if other people want to fight over it go ahead i guess just be civil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nez-Kal Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 I think they need to stay at 800 Days and 1,000 Days respectively, because they're the indicator in the Daily Log-In System of "Hey, I got This Far". Similar to the Conclave Syandana requiring players to complete the Conclave Weekly Challenges to light it up, it's a fashion item that tells other players that you hit a mile stone somewhere, in this case, in days logging in. Are their players that want the Conclave Syandana to be lit forever and always? Yes, but again, that's not the point of it. Just like with the Log-in Syandana and the Armor set. If players got it easy, then what's the value to it and wearing it other than for simple fashion. Any other value it might have is just gone. Same can be said for Deluxe Bundle Only Syandanas, Armors and Skins. It tells other players "Yeah, I bought the 516p Stalker FashionFrame set". It's what even gives the Bundles value, because you can't obtain the individual items any other way than by buying the whole box. That's "Collectables" Fashion though. Conclave and Log-In are "Achievement Fashion", which DE has recognized they are somewhat lacking in that department. (On that note, I'd really like to buy the Raids Sigil Shoulder bit for plat....but I understand it's an "Achievement Fashion", and I didn't Achieve it during the time it was available.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrBorris Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 (edited) If I had the choice I would remove all "content" from daily tribute, limiting it to just sigils and 'evergreen' rewards. And this is from some with the veteran pristige of having the lodestar armor. What is your reasoning? It makes you not feel special? Spending thirty seconds a day is such a glorious achievement that you 'earned' those rewards? You know, as opposed to playing the game. IMO, people should get over it, time gates are not fun or healthy for a player base (I am all for progression gates and grind gates though). Edited September 29, 2018 by DrBorris Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That1Cactus Posted September 29, 2018 Author Share Posted September 29, 2018 2 minutes ago, Tangent-Valley said: I think they need to stay at 800 Days and 1,000 Days respectively, because they're the indicator in the Daily Log-In System of "Hey, I got This Far". Similar to the Conclave Syandana requiring players to complete the Conclave Weekly Challenges to light it up, it's a fashion item that tells other players that you hit a mile stone somewhere, in this case, in days logging in. Are their players that want the Conclave Syandana to be lit forever and always? Yes, but again, that's not the point of it. Just like with the Log-in Syandana and the Armor set. If players got it easy, then what's the value to it and wearing it other than for simple fashion. Any other value it might have is just gone. Same can be said for Deluxe Bundle Only Syandanas, Armors and Skins. It tells other players "Yeah, I bought the 516p Stalker FashionFrame set". It's what even gives the Bundles value, because you can't obtain the individual items any other way than by buying the whole box. That's "Collectables" Fashion though. Conclave and Log-In are "Achievement Fashion", which DE has recognized they are somewhat lacking in that department. (On that note, I'd really like to buy the Raids Sigil Shoulder bit for plat....but I understand it's an "Achievement Fashion", and I didn't Achieve it during the time it was available.) Except the issue is that with the Conclave cosmetics or Deluxe Bundles is that you don't have to login for 2-3 years to get them. The Lodestar stuff themselves aren't really that great anyways compared to what you should get in Deluxe Bundles or Prime Accessories so why lock them behind a 2-3 year wall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IggySnow Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Its not unfair at all. Its cosmetics. I actually think its a perfect compromise between the vets that have logged in for 1000 days and everyone else. And iv been on the side of really liking the new login changes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaeacus Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 As I said over in the Developer Workshop thread, it does suck that we have to wait for 1000 days to get all Lodestar cosmetics. However, they also confirmed that after 1000 days, there will NEVER be another unique drop from Login. That one fact makes me happy, and I don't mind it anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IggySnow Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 5 minutes ago, That1Cactus said: Except the issue is that with the Conclave cosmetics or Deluxe Bundles is that you don't have to login for 2-3 years to get them. The Lodestar stuff themselves aren't really that great anyways compared to what you should get in Deluxe Bundles or Prime Accessories so why lock them behind a 2-3 year wall? if they aren't even that great then why complain about not getting them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nez-Kal Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 (edited) 11 minutes ago, That1Cactus said: Except the issue is that with the Conclave cosmetics or Deluxe Bundles is that you don't have to login for 2-3 years to get them. The Lodestar stuff themselves aren't really that great anyways compared to what you should get in Deluxe Bundles or Prime Accessories so why lock them behind a 2-3 year wall? Same could be said for the Conclave Syandana: "DE, just let us spend plat and BUY it! Why are you putting Achievement Fashion in your game?!" Achievement Fashion is something that's special for a lot of players, and it gives people an item to work towards. Sure, Logging in isn't all that much "work", per say, but people HAVE put the time into it regardless, and have the Achievement to show for it."DE, just instant Unlock every Achievement in the game on my Steam account if I pay you money! We don't even have up to MR30 yet!!!" - As another example of what some people are asking for, which seems just silly from the outside. EDIT: I forgot one of my other favorites: "DE, just let us buy the old Event Sigils! I want the Index one, but decided not to play it when it was released cause I didn't want it then, but now I do want it since we have Corpus style Tennogen!!!" Edited September 29, 2018 by Tangent-Valley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That1Cactus Posted September 29, 2018 Author Share Posted September 29, 2018 Just now, HerpDerpy said: if they aren't even that great then why complain about not getting them? Just because they aren't great doesn't justify them being in a 2-3 year wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nez-Kal Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Also, ib4 "Stop being Entitled to Everything in the Game" comments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That1Cactus Posted September 29, 2018 Author Share Posted September 29, 2018 (edited) Despite all the comments saying it's not wrong for pretty wrong ways, I will still continue to not be keen on the idea of new players having to wait 2-3 for things that can easily be 1-up'd by a lot of other armor sets. I get there are achievement titled cosmetics which are fine, but they can at least be obtained in less time than the Lodestar stuff. Edited September 29, 2018 by That1Cactus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nurmetya Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Well to be honest the Lodestar armor and syandana are pretty ugly. I have the syandana now and its really hideous there are no animations on it, its incredibly large covering your entire back, its solid for about 85% of the mesh except for 2 little dangly bits hanging off the bottom edges, and the colouring pattern is just terrible the whole thing just looks tacky. I don't have the armour yet but it has the same issues its chunky and clunky looking at the same time, and its colouring pattern is just as bad from the few examples of it I've seen ingame. So its no big lose if these 2 stay locked to their respective 800 and 1000 days there are other armour pieces that look 100x better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loviam Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 1 hour ago, That1Cactus said: And that's just outright unfair. Define milestone for me okay? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zNightWolfz Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 tStop with the dam whinging about not getting something sooner rather than later to me it seems that most these people dont want to invest long term in the game so stuff them if they cant wait tough luck you have to they have changed it enough that the whingers can now choose there weapons at points ... why shouldnt there still be long term items that we can get that shows we are long term players ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rastaban75 Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 People have been complaining for ages against the Daily Tribute system, the main argument being the unlocking of items like the Zenistar and the other weapons after years of logins. Many claimed they don't care about the rest because it's just cosmetics and not tied to mastery ranking or things like that. Now people complain about cosmetics too? I mean, let's scrap the system altogether. That would be better. Only the next day we'd have topics complaining about how there is no daily login reward system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-BA-NeoNexus5 Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 (edited) First My English skill is bad so i sorry for it. OK....i got all syandana and it armor and it just..... UGHHH. when Nurmetya said about it syandana already.. so i will talk about it armor itself. it armor just look worse even than it syandana.... it shoulder and knee-plate not match on most of frame. it chestpiece is downright criminal.... very bulk.... look completely seperate attach to your warframe chest... ofc it have spin animation.... but with how bulk on it it just kill this chestpiece completely. i don't know why people complain and want this ugly armor. i wear it only for few days then i realise even normal armor have completely better and de put more effort than this ugly thing. Sorry that i kinda rude. but this armor just make me feel very disapointed. Edited September 29, 2018 by ---ChaRoon--- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Autongnosis Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 il y a 13 minutes, rastaban75 a dit : I mean, let's scrap the system altogether. That would be better. Only the next day we'd have topics complaining about how there is no daily login reward system. Damned if you do, damned if you dont ;D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5H4DE Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Oh bloody hell, it's just a cosmetic, let there be something to show that someone has played the game for a very long time. There's nothing else after 1000 days anyway. I'm not even half way through to the lodestar stuff myself and while I do spend hours on fashionframe and fashiondojo, I couldn't be bothered less that I won't get the lodestar stuff for another 2 years. Wanna know why? Because we have a myriad of much better looking cosmetics to choose from that's why. So can we please let those that took the 30 seconds to login everyday for 3 years straight have something to feel good about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dEjAvU5566 Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 Original login system-> Hey! We don't want actual weapons locked behind time gate! Updated login system -> Hey! We don't want cosmetic items locked behind time gate! Remove login system -> Hey! We don't have things to show off entitlement! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golineth Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 (edited) Seems like a reasonable solution to me TBH. People can get the stuff with actual gameplay impact within a decent timeframe and the veterans desperate for bragging rights get something to pacify them. Edited September 29, 2018 by Golineth Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LupoDWolf Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 can i be toned down to 500 days then? more than a year, but less than 3 years .-. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeePee Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 They are just cosmetics that show a player has stuck to Warframe for a long time, it's a good thing to have and keeping them at 800 and 1000 gives them the value. You see that stuff and you know the person has been around for a very, very long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)robotwars7 Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 11 hours ago, That1Cactus said: Players should not have to play for 2-3 years just to get cosmetics that would fit with the weapons that can freely be chosen on a milestone but it's OK for players who've been logging in religiously for several years to gain those cosmetics to get slapped in the face by having the only non-gamechanging exclusives taken away from them? lol. they're cosmetics, all they say is "I've been around a while", and cosmetics are also subjective: not everybody will like the Lodestar stuff. some people will love the weapons but look at the armour and think "ew, doesn't look good as armour" and will instead use other cosmetics. it's not the end of the world to have gated cosmetics, long-time players need to be rewarded too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cubewano Posted September 29, 2018 Share Posted September 29, 2018 1 hour ago, (PS4)robotwars7 said: but it's OK for players who've been logging in religiously for several years to gain those cosmetics to get slapped in the face by having the only non-gamechanging exclusives taken away from them? lol. they're cosmetics, all they say is "I've been around a while", and cosmetics are also subjective: not everybody will like the Lodestar stuff. some people will love the weapons but look at the armour and think "ew, doesn't look good as armour" and will instead use other cosmetics. it's not the end of the world to have gated cosmetics, long-time players need to be rewarded too. Sure, why not? They probably have much bigger issues to tackle anywho if a piece of virtual armor not taking 2 years for a stranger to get is a blow to their feelings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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