Hello Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 So, the biggest complaint I had with vault runs is being solo and not having the right key. This usually just left people saying to find a group and it didn't really provide anything to the discussion. Was a lot of starting a mission, finding the vault fairly quickly and having the wrong key. So I quit the mission and start over. When having 4 keys equipped wouldn't be that big of a deal. Well with the recent update, we're able to finally do this. For the first time ever, vault runs are actually fun. Having 4 keys doesn't affect anything with running a simple mission such as capture in the Derelict. As shown here with 4 keys in the gear wheel: I have been running vault runs off and on for the last hour or so, and it's the funnest I have had with this. Knowing that when I start a run, I'm going to get a corrupted mod assuming I don't have to back track to much to find the vault. I was averaging 2-3 minute capture runs and I think maybe 3 runs I couldn't find the vault quick enough so I restarted. I'm not sure if this was an intended feature, but I'm also going to provide a clip where Steve talked about this in his stream on Twitch this morning. I just hope it's actually left in game. Sure the new alerts seem good, log in rewards fine, infinite Archwing launchers, great. This is what I'm the most excited about from the entire update though."Yeah, you can do the dragon keys in the gear wheel. We're gonna let that ride for a bit". Please let "a bit" be forever. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)Skippy575 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Ohh, there's no way this stays in game. It would be GREAT since I have a few mods left to get, but no way. Something this good? No way they keep it. I just hope I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Elvenbane Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 Neat. Will probably get fixed before making it's way to consoles, oh well...would have been nice to have a reason to craft those void keys and revisit these maps. I don't *need* any mods, but I wouldn't mind a few more dups for different levels... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hello Posted October 12, 2018 Author Share Posted October 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, (PS4)Elvenbane said: Neat. Will probably get fixed before making it's way to consoles, oh well...would have been nice to have a reason to craft those void keys and revisit these maps. I don't *need* any mods, but I wouldn't mind a few more dups for different levels... There's a few I need to just have 1 of each. I want duplicates to give to people if they need one from Discord servers I'm in or clan mates. Kind of like a "pay it forward" type of thing like others did for me when I needed specific corrupted mods for builds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GunRaptor9000 Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 The ability to equip multiple Dragon Keys at once makes me SO HAPPY. I usually game with my girlfriend, but any time we try to get people together for a Vault Run, we get a bunch of MR 5's out of recruiting chat who don't realize what a "Dragon Key" is in comparison to a "Derelict Key." Or some other such time wasting nonsense that makes her rage quit for the evening. Now, we can just play as the two of us and take two keys each. Frustration removed, and thanks to the new feature our gaming date nights will be improved! DE, please keep this change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheStratovarian Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 I really like this, it helps solo so darn much. Not having the one key, playing solo, is where 99% of my aborts are from. Keeping this, and marking it as playing solo, or friends only, might really help out folks for getting these. I would really like this to be a standard feature. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saturmorn_Carvilli Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 I can get behind this suggestion. While I already have all of the corrupted mods and a few part-way filled duplicates, I did not enjoy the game of chance of picking the right key for the vault in the mission. I wasted hours doing solo Derelict Capture missions this way since my clan was dead at the time and I don't like/trust recruit chat. I would have much rather had to deal with all the dragon key penalties than try and be lucky to equip the right key. My guess is DE won't let this stick around though. Like I said, I got mine so I am not too concerned about it either way. Still if new players could avoid what I had to go through and easy Defense missions had more speed novas, I would consider that a good thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oreades Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 (edited) Can't see a reason not to leave it in. It helps solo players It gives people who keep saying they want a challenge but absoloutly refuse to show any restraint in their builds a method to easily apply some restraint without the inconvenience of having to show restraint. Edited October 12, 2018 by Oreades Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hello Posted October 12, 2018 Author Share Posted October 12, 2018 7 minutes ago, TheStratovarian said: I really like this, it helps solo so darn much. Not having the one key, playing solo, is where 99% of my aborts are from. Keeping this, and marking it as playing solo, or friends only, might really help out folks for getting these. I would really like this to be a standard feature. Same for me. I wish I could see specific stats of where my most quit missions are. I'm willing to bet the majority have come from the Derelict. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CeePee Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 I'll have to agree this is a great change and hope it'll stay more than just a bit. The system is already old and finding a full group to have every single key isn't so easy. Now you can just wear all of the keys and really nerf your frame, or do it with 2 people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anomandarys Posted October 12, 2018 Share Posted October 12, 2018 I hope this stays. The last few times I've tried putting together vault runs have felt like pulling teeth... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lysithea.Nya Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 2 часа назад, Anomandarys сказал: I hope this stays. The last few times I've tried putting together vault runs have felt like pulling teeth... I can tell that it was easier for me back then to trade some plat and just buy needed mods rather than having a headache forming/seeking party for vaults. So having ability to equip multiple keys is good indeed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lokidus_Prime Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 i realllyyyy hope this stays in too.. Its such a fantastic way to help out on vault runs for people who prefer to play solo. I might actually have a reason to start doing them again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OvisCaedo Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Oh what? Nice! There's probably still useful corrupted mods I'm missing. Could never be bothered to squad hunt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSG501 Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Another vote for keep it, other than allowing solo play it doesn't really make it any easier than before at getting the rewards. If anything it's arguably harder due to carrying all 4 and taking on their penalties. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)DShinShoryuken Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Nice to know....they should make it that in order to get the mod, each person in the Squad must give up the key. This way, you do not have one person carrying all and everyone getting the reward. Each person antes up to get Corrupted Mod....and the reward is the mod plus half of Void Traces back used per key given up This makes it that if you really want that mod, take all keys and if you want a chance to play roulette, take one key and hope it lands on yours. Looking forward to doing this when it hits Consoleville Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Dx- Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Please keep it that way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chainchompguy3 Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 On one hand, I feel like being forced to matchmake with others helps to further community interaction, and solidifies Corrupted mods as thing that you kinda need teamwork to get. But on the other hand, I have intentionally not done a vault run in over a year because such community interaction is...undesirable at times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Melanholic7 Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 dont need this cause prefer party runs, but im really happy that this makes some solo players happy 🙂 Cause they need love too :3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HellVOps Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Well, if only dragon keys could have a role OUTSIDE of the derelict, for example, give more affinity/credits/focus(10% with diminishing returns) per key equipped. That way you can balance benefits vs debuffs and give yourself a challenge too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kahrain Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 I support leaving this in. It's bringing me back to derelicts, and it helps solo players alot. Plus, the challenge it brings can be a step up in planning for using multiple keys. On top of this, I would also potentially like to see new Riven Challenges requiring all 4 keys equipped! Maybe as an example: Complete a level 30+ exterminate with all four Dragon Keys equipped in under 10 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-CdG-Zilchy Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 If you hadn't made a thread they wouldn't have known... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lance_Lionroar Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 Seems the community agrees on something for once. Keep it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyaminthe Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 To be fair, there's not much reason to take it out. Running with a full group is still better than soloing (if you can assemble a full group, that is), as you only need to spend a Derelict key and a Dragon key once per four runs on average (compared to once per each run solo), and playing with all four debuffs on you at the same time is... not extremely hard, I've already done it myself a couple of times, but it's definitely quite a nuisance. Though I could definitely see farming in two-player groups to offset the pros and cons becoming more popular. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PopGligor Posted October 13, 2018 Share Posted October 13, 2018 This is something I've been wanting for a long time, and I'm quite happy it's finally made its way into the game. I hope it stays forever. But Steve said they're going to leave it for a while, so I think we have at least a year of this being in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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