TheDante500 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 (edited) It would be nice if the Cryotic drop is increase, like to 250 or 500 per complete excavation or decrease the amount we need for some forge items like the sibear (30K!!! thats 300 complete excavation without boost or smeetha) please consider this for a future update EDIT: the reason i think it could be decrease the amount needed is because the amount you can get for 1 complete excavation (100 cryotic), without the boost or smeetha kavat(smeetha one is to random to get, you need to be lucky) but it also could be a drop of expecifics enemies(the one that creates a freeze shield) not 100 cryotic but like 10 like oxium Edited October 21, 2018 by TheDante500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnarlsDarkley Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 And then there are veterans (like me) who do have the Sibear and spare 100k Cryotic. Just don't farm for it and you will have this (trash) weapon eventually Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NocheLuz Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 I only try to farm them when the double resource is activated, either by daily tribute, sorties reward or buying from the shop. I don't really want Sibear but I still farm like 1000 perday... I'll have 30k in 30 days. So, it's not so bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Barbarian Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 (edited) Getting the Sibear (Also known as Yes Bear) only takes 3 hours to farm with a resource booster. As someone who just did that farm it wasn't that bad. So i'm against this. And you've not said why it should be reduced. Edited October 21, 2018 by Joe_Barbarian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MysticDragonMage Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 i agree with OP. 100 cryotic per excavation is too low. i feel as if it should stack based on rotations. A would give you the normal 100 B would give you 200 and C would give you 300 700 cryotic per full rotation seems fair. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Barbarian Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 (edited) Also, here is some fun fact numbers! There are stuff out there that takes 15 Nitain Extract to build with an average of 3 a day (If you get all 3) That takes 5 days to farm for 1 thing. Did you know that's 36 (or 72 without booster) minutes of farming cryotic a day in comparison to farming Nitain Edited October 21, 2018 by Joe_Barbarian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teksorbkyva Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 6 minutes ago, Joe_Barbarian said: Also, here is some fun fact numbers! There are stuff out there that takes 15 Nitain Extract to build with an average of 3 a day (If you get all 3) That takes 5 days to farm for 1 thing. Did you know that's 36 (or 72 without booster) minutes of farming cryotic a day in comparison to farming the sibear Just because other things are worse for farming doesn't mean Cryotic shouldn't be looked at. The 30k require for the Sibear is excessive and, although maybe not as excessive as the Hema research or making Vauban Prime, its a lot to ask of players at its Mastery Requirement of 6. Excavation isn't all that fun of an endless mission in my opinion due to how excavator health does not scale, especially if you're just doing it for the resource. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDante500 Posted October 21, 2018 Author Share Posted October 21, 2018 hace 7 minutos, Joe_Barbarian dijo: Also, here is some fun fact numbers! There are stuff out there that takes 15 Nitain Extract to build with an average of 3 a day (If you get all 3) That takes 5 days to farm for 1 thing. Did you know that's 36 (or 72 without booster) minutes of farming cryotic a day in comparison to farming the sibear Vauban Prime i know but the nitian is from alerts so for nitian they could be add to al syndicates offerings and the could cost 120K points for 1 because is an alert item only Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDante500 Posted October 21, 2018 Author Share Posted October 21, 2018 BTW this is based in my personal opinion and you can or not agree with it (I make trinity prime so now i have 1K cryotic) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Barbarian Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, TheDante500 said: Vauban Prime i know but the nitian is from alerts so for nitian they could be add to al syndicates offerings and the could cost 120K points for 1 because is an alert item only It's not an Alert only item, you can farm else were but is wildly inefficient. Honestly, The Sibear has been in this game since April 2016. Why should the build requirements only now be reduced? It's not a horrible farm to get, it's pretty chilled and you can normally do 2 birds with 1 stone by doing Excavation Fissures, crack relics get sweet cryotic and be done with it. I'm currently convinced that the people asking for more cryotic are just newer players that don't want to do a fairly simple and easy grind. Edited October 21, 2018 by Joe_Barbarian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDante500 Posted October 21, 2018 Author Share Posted October 21, 2018 (edited) hace 1 minuto, Joe_Barbarian dijo: It's not an Alert only item, you can farm else were but is wild inefficient. Honestly, The Sibear has been in this game since April 2016. Why should the build requirements should be reduced? It's not a horrible farm to get, it's pretty chilled and you can normally do 2 birds with 1 stone by doing Excavation Fissures, crack relics get sweet cryotic and be done with it. I'm currently convinced that the people asking for more cryotic are just newer players that don't want to do a fairly simple and easy grind. Nitian NOT AN ALERT ONLY? that was something i didnt know..... and remember I said im a returning player (when get back this year i was MR5 now im MR16) Edited October 21, 2018 by TheDante500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Barbarian Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Just now, TheDante500 said: Nitian NOT AN ALERT ONLY? that was something i didnt know..... Warframe.wikia.com Tenno, it's a beautiful site. http://warframe.wikia.com/wiki/Nitain_Extract Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Infirito Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Why not get a booster then? And a good party. On Hieracon you get Endo and Axi relics along with Cryotic, not as much as direct farming, but you get it all at once. I really don't see a problem here: this game is a looter, things are supposed to take time to get. Also, I'm close to MR25 and still don't have that club, there's plenty of other stuff to do and things to get. Knux research takes 20k Cryotic, I got it very fast but I have no interest in farming for Sibear atm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterc3 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Sibear is explicitly an outlier, for the people that were basically doing Hieracon 24/7. They aren't going to do this for Kuva, I don't see them then doing it for Cryotic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
krodha36 Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Me seeing title and getting hyped that cryaotic was playing this game Me then clicking on thread Me then realizing i had completely forgotten what cryotic even was Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talinthis Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 25 minutes ago, TheDante500 said: Nitian NOT AN ALERT ONLY? that was something i didnt know..... and remember I said im a returning player (when get back this year i was MR5 now im MR16) Eh as far as I am concerned it is. The only half decent one atm is the gold rare from ghoul bounties but if you need more than like 1 I wouldn't recommend it to anybody. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDante500 Posted October 21, 2018 Author Share Posted October 21, 2018 hace 22 minutos, krodha36 dijo: Me seeing title and getting hyped that cryaotic was playing this game Me then clicking on thread Me then realizing i had completely forgotten what cryotic even was wait what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishyflakes Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 I don't think the "I already did it and I'm a veteran" is a good excuse to not change things. That's the reason Hema is stuck. Yet DE has shown they are willing to compromise ala Daily Login rework. So who knows. As someone with about 120k cryotic doing nothing in my foundry, I don't care either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDante500 Posted October 21, 2018 Author Share Posted October 21, 2018 (edited) hace 21 minutos, Fishyflakes dijo: I don't think the "I already did it and I'm a veteran" is a good excuse to not change things. That's the reason Hema is stuck. Yet DE has shown they are willing to compromise ala Daily Login rework. So who knows. As someone with about 120k cryotic doing nothing in my foundry, I don't care either way. this is also made thinking in new players Edited October 21, 2018 by TheDante500 gramatical problem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Barbarian Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 10 minutes ago, Fishyflakes said: I don't think the "I already did it and I'm a veteran" is a good excuse to not change things. That's the reason Hema is stuck. Yet DE has shown they are willing to compromise ala Daily Login rework. So who knows. As someone with about 120k cryotic doing nothing in my foundry, I don't care either way. It's not "I already did it and i'm a veteran" excuse. The Sibear is a pretty simple farm and isn't bad at all, you get cryotic in at least 2 situations where you get other stuff as well:Excavation Fissures: Cryotic + Cracking RelicsHieracon: Cryotic + Getting Relics / Endo etc Hema is also a pretty simple grind as well, Orokin Delerlict Defence which has a chance to even get a forma blueprint. Average about 100~ samples a run per person, so encourages clan groups and maximising drop chances. Assuming 1 minute waves and only going 20 waves and ghost clan: 1 person = 50 runs (16 hours) 1 Squad = 12 runs (4 hours) Which you're a clan of players, work together to do the research, clan research shouldn't be balanced towards a single player doing all the farming, it's balanced as a clan effort. Which considering the game we're all playing that grind really isn't that terrible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Barbarian Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 2 minutes ago, TheDante500 said: this is also thinking in new players 56 minutes ago, Joe_Barbarian said: I'm currently convinced that the people asking for more cryotic are just newer players that don't want to do a fairly simple and easy grind. Why do players such as yourself want simple things to be "easier" to grind under the ruse that it's for new players. Looking at your profile you have so many things that you can do as well as farming cryotic at the same time, think of it as "What can I as well as get X" From my previous post: 4 minutes ago, Joe_Barbarian said: Excavation Fissures: Cryotic + Cracking RelicsHieracon: Cryotic + Getting Relics / Endo etc New players can do the exact same thing as well. So cut "thinking of new players" it's for yourself, I don't believe for a second you're thinking about others here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fishyflakes Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 3 minutes ago, Joe_Barbarian said: Why do players such as yourself want simple things to be "easier" to grind under the ruse that it's for new players. Looking at your profile you have so many things that you can do as well as farming cryotic at the same time, think of it as "What can I as well as get X" From my previous post: New players can do the exact same thing as well. So cut "thinking of new players" it's for yourself, I don't believe for a second you're thinking about others here. Great job attacking his character instead of his argument. Why do you have such a problem with people asking for grinds to get easier, especially if you've already done them? You with your ~veteran knowledge~ know how to play the game as efficiently as possible. Noobs wouldn't. You should put your money where your mouth is and make a Cryotic Farming guide and make it available to anyone who opens the Sibear Blueprint in the market. (Or even aquires a Trinity Prime set for that matter.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe_Barbarian Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Fishyflakes said: Great job attacking his character instead of his argument. Why do you have such a problem with people asking for grinds to get easier, especially if you've already done them? You with your ~veteran knowledge~ know how to play the game as efficiently as possible. Noobs wouldn't. You should put your money where your mouth is and make a Cryotic Farming guide and make it available to anyone who opens the Sibear Blueprint in the market. (Or even aquires a Trinity Prime set for that matter.) Came here asking for a 250 - 500% buff to Cryotic drops and then claimed it was for new players after everyone wasn't agreeing with him. It would appear you have just as unrealistic changes as the TC does. How on earth could a normal game player have a video guide introduced into the game upon opening up a blueprint? Unrealistic. I'll more than happily make a Cryotic farming guide that doesn't make you want to comfort eat afterwards. You've also confused what "Veteran Knowledge" and "Common Sense" which sadly common sense is dying out pretty rapidly. Try and think for yourself: - I need X oh I can get X from Y what else drops from Y. You know what, lets just give everything to everyone at the very start or! make it so you can select what relic rewards you want from your relics so you can farm only for that one piece. /s Edited October 21, 2018 by Joe_Barbarian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marelooke Posted October 21, 2018 Share Posted October 21, 2018 Unless you buy everything then farming Hieracon is still one of the more effective ways to farm higher tier relics as far as I'm aware. So how anyone could not have enough Cryotic while at the same time being "done" with collecting Primes is a bit beyond me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheDante500 Posted October 24, 2018 Author Share Posted October 24, 2018 funny information: I never ask the devs to make what i said in this post, i just said it would be nice and if they could consider this(is like give an idea) so if i go with squad + booster how many would i farm in an hour (if every excavation is done with non destroyed)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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