Some weapons scale with enemy level... Whaaat ?

[(PSN)Silverback73]

The first thing that came to mind on this topic due to enemy level being innately tied to Damage via an actual, dependent variable:

https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Acid_Shells

[dwqrf]

Yes, this mod is the best. There is also a variant for Detron and Jat kittag, but they are not as great. Equinox's Maim also has the ability to scale on enemy's Max Health. Trinity also has a Max Health damage output with her vampire, i think.

[Vanille]

When weapons "scale", they don't gain damage with enemy's levels, it just means that the weapons are still doing enough damage to be viable even with enemies scaling up in health and defenses, with the exception of Octavia's mallet, since it reflects damage depending on the damage received, which is higher as enemies scale up. This is most likely a glitch, I mean is no one gonna mention the length of the enemy health bars? ._.

[dwqrf]

il y a 52 minutes, Vanille a dit :

This is most likely a glitch, I mean is no one gonna mention the length of the enemy health bars? ._.

I think this is a glitch due to using 4 shield disruption and leaving them shieldless. Maybe this is the cause, as well, of the high numbers, that might just be a UI bug on a none existing scaling shield, maybe ?

[Nogaren]

Been a common index farming strat for a while now. Four shield disruptions will give you insane damage numbers allowing for umbra+kohm or Oberon to deal that much dmg. There is no such thing as a scaling weapon.

[VoxGray]

It's a bug with Shield Disruption. The same thing that used to cause invincible Eidolons, actually. Having four Shield Disruptions causes the shields to roll over into negative values, which actually amplifies the amount of damage they take. A shotgun weapon like the Kohm can take advantage of this by spitting out vast numbers of pellets, each dealing many times the intended amount of damage, to shear through the enemies' health. This would also work with any other pellet-based shotgun, as well as Oberon's 1, but the Kohm is the best due to its raw ammo output.

So to put it plainly, either the guy in that video is dumb enough to believe that this is somehow intended behavior (which I highly doubt), or he's lying to try and cover his ass for actively exploiting the bug. Given how stupid people can be about exploits in online games, the latter wouldn't surprise me in the slightest.

Edited November 8, 2018 by EmissaryOfInfinity

[VorticoseLine]

there are some things that scale potentially, such as acid shells+sobek because it's based on enemy total health when death blow is dealt.  

[dwqrf]

il y a 37 minutes, EmissaryOfInfinity a dit :

It's a bug with Shield Disruption

Okay.

 

I can't imagine any bug that need to be fixed faster than this one.

[dwqrf]

Found that, and it's interesting. Especially if you listen from 33:30 to 34:30.

People know about this bug since month and exploit it. This is disguting.

[Operativ]

Hey,

this looks highly unusual and should be taken care of as soon as possible, preferably around the release of Fortuna.

This damage scaling bug completely trivialises the game at this point, and I thought that Warframe was relatively easy enough on its own in the current state with things like Maiming Strike and constantly increasing numbers on every new weapon.

[Autongnosis]

Il y a 7 heures, dwqrf a dit :

People know about this bug since month and exploit it. This is disguting.

Gas stealth melees anyone? It was used for far more and by almost everyone to the point Youtubers pointed to that as a viable strategy... It won't be the first mor the last. 

[VorticoseLine]

That is self-damage Trin, and that has been changed since then.  essentially it was using abating link which would "reflect" damage to enemies when you are dealt damage, and a self damaging weapon.  It's a niche play that can't be achieved in the same way.

[taiiat]

exploits are far and numerous in this game - only the most popular ones at any given time tend to see attention.
if it's popular, it's a problem. that's the guideline of precedence Warframe sets.

[dwqrf]

il y a 41 minutes, VorticoseLine a dit :

That is self-damage Trin, and that has been changed since then.  essentially it was using abating link which would "reflect" damage to enemies when you are dealt damage, and a self damaging weapon.  It's a niche play that can't be achieved in the same way.

The self damage Trin was indeed what was used as a DPS form in this video, but that was using the exploit. Trinity wasn't the issue here.
But with this exploit, you can go with ANY form of huge aoe low damage dealing output and it works as well.