Garuda's Claws should be always available for use in no melee is equipped

[makdonalds]

So for example, Daily Sorties if the modifier is to limit to Shotguns for example i should still be able to use the claws, the are right there after all. Another case would be when those grineer enemies that disarm you.

Edited November 11, 2018 by makdonalds

[peterc3]

56 minutes ago, makdonalds said:

i should still be able to use the claws, the are right there after all

So Garuda should be locked out of non-Melee only Sorties?

The entire point is to force you to vary your loadout.

[makdonalds]

No you are totally missing the point, she has her claws on her by design that's what makes her special so she should be able to use them.

[SqualZell]

3 hours ago, peterc3 said:

So Garuda should be locked out of non-Melee only Sorties?

The entire point is to force you to vary your loadout.

look at excalibur, you can use exalted blade even if melee is prohibited.

[peterc3]

5 minutes ago, SqualZell said:

look at excalibur, you can use exalted blade even if melee is prohibited.

Garuda doesn't have an equivalent ability. She uses her claws as a weapon if no other melee is equipped, but it is still a normal weapon. A weapon that isn't allowed in a non-Melee only Sortie.

[makdonalds]

Just now, peterc3 said:

Garuda doesn't have an equivalent ability. She uses her claws as a weapon if no other melee is equipped, but it is still a normal weapon. A weapon that isn't allowed in a non-Melee only Sortie.

It's not a normal weapon it's a frame specific weapon

[peterc3]

4 minutes ago, makdonalds said:

It's not a normal weapon it's a frame specific weapon

But it's normal. It's a Claws-type weapon just only usable by Garuda. It isn't central to her abilities or has an ability just to bring them out and use them ala Valkyr.

There's no reason Garuda should be allowed to use normal melee weapons in a game mode specifically excluding melee weapons.

[Shelusine]

She should be able to use it since it's her passive ability. I don't see the point of preventing a frame from using its passive ability.

[Robbery525]

wrong quote. see next comment.

Edited November 12, 2018 by Robbery525

[Robbery525]

3 hours ago, peterc3 said:

There's no reason Garuda should be allowed to use normal melee weapons in a game mode specifically excluding melee weapons. 

1) Its her passive ability.

2) She currently isn't allowed to use them in melee only sorties, so its not a 'normal weapon'. (This is probably a bug tho. Set Bonuses also don't trigger on her talons.)

If excal or valkyr can take our their weapons thanks to abilities, so should she.

 

[-AoN-CanoLathra-]

7 hours ago, peterc3 said:

So Garuda should be locked out of non-Melee only Sorties?

The entire point is to force you to vary your loadout.

Except that all ability weapons still work and are full modded. Why should Garuda's be different?

[peterc3]

3 hours ago, Robbery525 said:

1) Its her passive ability.

No her passive is her passive. The whole claw thing is literally extra. Given it is a melee weapon that has no place in her abilities besides fluff, there's no reason for her to keep access to it.

3 hours ago, Robbery525 said:

 2) She currently isn't allowed to use them in melee only sorties, so its not a 'normal weapon'. (This is probably a bug tho. Set Bonuses also don't trigger on her talons.)

That may be a bug and it's likely due to being cloned from the separate moddable exalted weapons. Does not change the fact it isn't part of any abilities. It's just an extra bit for if no melee is equipped, not when you aren't allowed to use melee.

3 hours ago, Robbery525 said:

If excal or valkyr can take our their weapons thanks to abilities, so should she.

Their abilities are centered around those weapons, though. Valkyr minus her Talons makes Hysteria literally unusable. What exactly will Excal do with EB with no sword?

3 hours ago, -AoN-CanoLathra- said:

Except that all ability weapons still work and are full modded. Why should Garuda's be different?

Garuda's claws don't actually get used in her abilities. None of her abilities involve exalted claws.

[makdonalds]

Actually it's exclusively stated in her passive that she get's to use her Claws when no melee is equipped, also her 1 uses her claws like cmon have u played her?

[SqualZell]

9 hours ago, peterc3 said:

Does not change the fact it isn't part of any abilities.

her 1 uses the claws, so does her 3