Akisohida Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Seriously, I have to be rank 4 out of 5 to get the proper blueprints to refine the gems to make the new warframe. For the record, going from rank 2 to 3 takes 44,000 rep. ..I have a cap of 15,000 rep a day. I can meet this cap in 15-20 minutes, tops. That's a FORCED 3 days wait just to rank up from 2 to 3. 0 to 1 took one day. I think 1 to 2 took 2 days..ish. I literally have EVERY material needed save for the bloody Marquis Thyst & Radiant Zodian blueprints and 4 varying Toroids (and getting the Toroids is basically random luck, it seems) I get they'd rather have us spend Plat to buy the thing but please don't pull an EA or Activision and drip-feed new content behind a frustrating grindwall to 'encourage' plat purchases. Most of us buy plat because we want to support one of the best free to play games out there. Some of us even used to say 'It was microtransactions done right'. But when you start showing off the shiny new warframe, then lock it behind 7+ days mind-numbing grind while innocently pointing at your plat store..Well..it's disgusting. I want to have fun playing a game I enjoy, not be punished for not giving you more and more money, guys. That's what the jackhole triple-a devs are doing, and they are tanking the games market with stupidly predatory practices. Please don't be like them. Be the final, shining bastion of a proper F2P model in a world of wildly out-of-control corporate greed, where making 'only 500 million' is seen as BAD these days. (Christ, if I had a QUARTER of that money, I could get me & my family out of this hole and invest in a good future for us) I don't know about anyone else, but the more a game slaps me in the face for playing it, and points at its store to 'skip the grind', the less I want to actually spend money on it. So please stop putting up bigger and bigger grindwalls. All it does is punish us for being loyal consumers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Firetempest Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 It's fine. It's not an assult. There are 30+ other frames to get first. You just can't get the new shiny immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BansheePrime Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 7 days with 20 minutes of grinding each is not exactly what I’d call a heavy grind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterc3 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 4 minutes ago, Akisohida said: ..I have a cap of 15,000 rep a day. Then you might want to consider doing other things to increase your MR. Build the dozens of other weapons and the frames available outside Fortuna. 5 minutes ago, Akisohida said: Please don't be like them. DE isn't them and can only exist because people buy things. If you felt no pressure to buy anything, there would be no game to play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akisohida Posted November 14, 2018 Author Share Posted November 14, 2018 Just now, BansheePrime said: 7 days with 20 minutes of grinding each is not exactly what I’d call a heavy grind. I think it depends on the side of the coin you look at? That's 7 days, OR 140 minutes (2 hours, 20 minutes). Why do I have to wait 7 days when it would take me less than 3 hours of pretty enjoyable bounties with friends? It's a forced wait that is frustrating and not really there for any reason other than 'Well, you can pay to skip the grind'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rbean Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Stop. It's not that heavy. Buy it support the game, or just play a little bit and earn it. So it takes a week to get the new frame. What's the big deal? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SaltyKelong Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 (edited) MR22, still no Khora, still no Trinity. Garuda is easy to obtain compared to the rng grindfest required for the others. Edited November 14, 2018 by SaltyKelong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Williamwaitunnaing Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 The only thing I am really annoyed is finding the medical bonds which seems to have a totally wrong drop rate from intended drop rate. I feel like building new amps will be a lot harder than building Garuda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akisohida Posted November 14, 2018 Author Share Posted November 14, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, SaltyKelong said: MR22, still no Khora, still no Trinity. Garuda is easy to obtain compared to the rng grindfest required for the others. I'll grant you that. IIRC, Trinity was my starting warframe way back in the Dark Ages. And now I have Trinity Prime to rank up. Trin. Prime is my only non-Mastered warframe. I have: Ash (& Prime), Chroma, Ember (& Prime), Equinox, Excalibur Prime (and Umbra), Frost Prime, Gara, Hydroid, Loki Prime, Mag, Mirage, Nekros, Nezha, Nidus, Nova, Oberon, Titania, Zeypher, Ivara (Huh, only 29. Oops), Trinity Prime, and Khora. (Man, I wish there was a website to track my gear without logging into the game. x.x) I had Trinity & Nyx. And according to the Codex I halfway-leveled Rhino but I don't have him anymore. Odd, I don't tend to sell warframes unless I hated them but ONLY if I max them out. (I did have a friend, once, who visited dodgy porn sites when I let him couch crash (my PC was in the living room) and I had to change my PW's on everything..but I doubt someone would sell ONE warframe and nothing else. Unless I forgot a few weapons, but still; that'd be barely anything.) So I wonder why I sold Rhino only half-mastered.. Bleh. I ALSO need only Valkyr Prime chassis and I can make Valkyr Prime. (I have some ancient Relics 😛 ) but they are being unkind, I have maybe 4 left, and I will flip ALL the tables if I come so close (I have the other two parts needed already CRAFTED) and fail. Edited November 14, 2018 by Akisohida Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erytroxylin Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 That's not heavy grind, it's just time gating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Asphyxiants Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Suck it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HorridaMessor Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 WTF is wrong with modern gamers? OP, why you felt you should make this thread? Because genuine concern about the game? Or because you can't wait a little time and want everything new immediately and at no cost? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rand0mname Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 If only we had some alternative ways to shorten the grind... Wait, you can buy the components on warframe.market already. If only we had something to do while we waited for others to grind the BP... Wait, there is this update called Fortuna and the prime Vault is open. Side note 1: There are 25 Tenno who will soon fly around and slice Corpus... and I am out of trades and Thyst. Side note 2: can we stop overusing "slap in the face" prase? Gamers are slapped so often, that it lost it's weight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Veridian Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Williamwaitunnaing said: The only thing I am really annoyed is finding the medical bonds which seems to have a totally wrong drop rate from intended drop rate. I feel like building new amps will be a lot harder than building Garuda Just purchase debts, I've stockpiled quite a few that way. On topic, it's so easy to distinguish younger gamers than the older ones these days. Heavy grind? Huge time gating? HAHAAHAHAHAHAHAH What's so fun in a game in which everything is handed to you? She shouldn't be a participation reward. Edited November 14, 2018 by Ver1dian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wtflag Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 3 hours ago, Akisohida said: I'll grant you that. IIRC, Trinity was my starting warframe way back in the Dark Ages. And now I have Trinity Prime to rank up. Trin. Prime is my only non-Mastered warframe. I have: Ash (& Prime), Chroma, Ember (& Prime), Equinox, Excalibur Prime (and Umbra), Frost Prime, Gara, Hydroid, Loki Prime, Mag, Mirage, Nekros, Nezha, Nidus, Nova, Oberon, Titania, Zeypher, Ivara (Huh, only 29. Oops), Trinity Prime, and Khora. (Man, I wish there was a website to track my gear without logging into the game. x.x) I had Trinity & Nyx. And according to the Codex I halfway-leveled Rhino but I don't have him anymore. Odd, I don't tend to sell warframes unless I hated them but ONLY if I max them out. (I did have a friend, once, who visited dodgy porn sites when I let him couch crash (my PC was in the living room) and I had to change my PW's on everything..but I doubt someone would sell ONE warframe and nothing else. Unless I forgot a few weapons, but still; that'd be barely anything.) So I wonder why I sold Rhino only half-mastered.. Bleh. I ALSO need only Valkyr Prime chassis and I can make Valkyr Prime. (I have some ancient Relics 😛 ) but they are being unkind, I have maybe 4 left, and I will flip ALL the tables if I come so close (I have the other two parts needed already CRAFTED) and fail. Valkyr. Valkyr prime. Nova prime. Volt. Volt prime. Atlas. Nekros Prime. Rhino. Rhino Prime. Chroma Prime. Hydroid Prime. Revenant. Nyx. Nyx Prime. Excalibur. Trinity. Mirage Prime. Frost. Wukong. Loki. Mag prime. Oberon prime. Banshee. Banshee prime. Vauban Vauban prime. ... I knock those off my head without referring to wiki. I play too much warframe. 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkmatt3r Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 each part is easy to get, wait a bit for the appropriate rank and mats to craft her. shes not that far away. and i wont call it insane grind as i have 2 sets already and i managed to cap my daily standing for only 2 days after the fortuna patch dropped. take it easy or just buy it as i did. shes not that special anyways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darkmatt3r Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 4 hours ago, Akisohida said: (Man, I wish there was a website to track my gear without logging into the game. x.x) https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.digitalextremes.warframenexus&hl=enhttps://itunes.apple.com/us/app/warframe/id698910075?mt=8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squeekly Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 "MR doesn't matter" They said. MR dedicated players deserve to reduce the grind, not low MR complaint threads. Stopping at the "I can do everything MR" So you can be meta. There are some good weapons outside of meta. And you should be expected less for less effort. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Iludra Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Guide to modern gaming: Step 1: complain about the content drought Step 2: when new content is released, strictly demand that you're able to consume it nearly instantly Step 3: complain about the content drought It's a world where game devs just can't win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Talinthis Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 Lol @ heavy grind! Buy the gems if you want garuda that bad. There are solutions. If you are mr 10 it would take you like 2 weeks for the rank with casual play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rastaban75 Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 She has more grind/time requirement than I expected, but it's not like she is locked behind some awful and frustrating RNG mechanism like e.g. Khora. Yes, you do need to spend the time collecting the required materials and the time to level up standings, but there is far less randomness in that process. I expect to have her crafted by Sunday or Monday, and I think that's quite reasonable as a reward after 10 days of Fortuna. Not much to show in the Kitgun or MOA department either by that point, but this I find reasonable as well. We shouldn't expect the full rewards as soon as an update of this scale is released. I mean, part of the fun (for this type of game) is getting "there", to the reward, eventually. And Fortunas don't come every day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NocheLuz Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 If you 'Pay' to buy Garuda from the shop, you can use her immediately... or wait 1 week for other 'Free' people to begin to build their Garuda. Now 'Pay' people don't feel exclusive anymore... such a sad fate... PS. I'm one of the 'Free' people. I needed only about 2 day until I can build Garuda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)drpunk-yo Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 This thread is super annoying. Waiting isn't grinding. OP comes across that if they could grind for Frame then they would do without any complaints at all (i.e. have higher cap, they would fill that immediately by grinding). And it's not like waiting is a new thing in the game. You know, like waiting 3 days for a Frame to craft. It's just funny when someone finally gets enticed by how DE make their money and gets all annoyed at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deothor Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 (edited) Gotta love whiteknight assembly here. Say anything that might be considered negative by this forum standards (that is: anything that isn't a praise) and you'll have whole flock of defenders ready within seconds. That being said DE keeps on adding even grindier aspects for the game. Remember vauban prime? hema? kavat genetic code? Nidus/Harrow/Khora? AMP grind? k-drive grind? Garuda is just as bad, if not worse. Edited November 14, 2018 by deothor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wind_Blade Posted November 14, 2018 Share Posted November 14, 2018 No it's not grind, is Time Gate and k-drive réputation Can be do within 10 minutes each day Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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