(PSN)sumfish63 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 I don't know why because the regular akvasto is pretty much a laser. I even ran a test between the vasto and the vasto prime and the vasto prime has like a third of the recoil that the regular vasto has. It seems to be the complete opposite for the akvasto and the akvasto prime. I think the worst thing about it's recoil though is how slow it takes to re-center. It takes like a solid half a second to re-center after firing one bullet. It's even worse when you fire it multiple times. Whenever I fire it like it's a pair of dual revolvers, I hover over the enemy's head and when I let the recoil settle, I do hardly any damage because I have pretty much no fire rate which the damage just doesn't back up. The akvasto prime reminds me of the Aklex prime in the fact that it has a lot of floaty recoil, but it seems like it was just toned down in it's damage and recoil and turn up in it fire rate. If any of you have ever tried to use the Aklex in that way, you know how bad it performs compared to any other secondary. If they really do want the akvasto prime to have really bad recoil, I'd at least want them to speed up it's re-centering speed so I can't just hover over the enemy's head while I'm trying to shoot it. I am copying this post from one I did 2 days ago, but I'm doing cause I posted this in general discussions and I think it fits better here. 9 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Lei-Lei_23 Posted November 15, 2018 Share Posted November 15, 2018 I made a topic with regards to the AkVasto Prime’s muzzle climb as well: It’s quite honestly very weird that the AkVasto Prime has this feature and yet the regular AkVastos don’t. There’s barely any muzzle climb with the Vasto Prime as well. One can say that both the AkVastos and Vasto Prime are fairly accurate. So DE, why do the AkVasto Prime have this weird climb when performing steady fire? This has to be an unintended oversight. This is the AkVasto Prime, not the AkLex Prime, let’s not make the former behave like the latter when the unprimed variant never had this issue to begin with. 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)YoungGunn82 Posted November 16, 2018 Share Posted November 16, 2018 10 hours ago, (PS4)sumfish63 said: I don't know why because the regular akvasto is pretty much a laser. I even ran a test between the vasto and the vasto prime and the vasto prime has like a third of the recoil that the regular vasto has. It seems to be the complete opposite for the akvasto and the akvasto prime. I think the worst thing about it's recoil though is how slow it takes to re-center. It takes like a solid half a second to re-center after firing one bullet. It's even worse when you fire it multiple times. Whenever I fire it like it's a pair of dual revolvers, I hover over the enemy's head and when I let the recoil settle, I do hardly any damage because I have pretty much no fire rate which the damage just doesn't back up. The akvasto prime reminds me of the Aklex prime in the fact that it has a lot of floaty recoil, but it seems like it was just toned down in it's damage and recoil and turn up in it fire rate. If any of you have ever tried to use the Aklex in that way, you know how bad it performs compared to any other secondary. If they really do want the akvasto prime to have really bad recoil, I'd at least want them to speed up it's re-centering speed so I can't just hover over the enemy's head while I'm trying to shoot it. I am copying this post from one I did 2 days ago, but I'm doing cause I posted this in general discussions and I think it fits better here. 7 hours ago, (PS4)Lei-Lei_23 said: I made a topic with regards to the AkVasto Prime’s muzzle climb as well: It’s quite honestly very weird that the AkVasto Prime has this feature and yet the regular AkVastos don’t. There’s barely any muzzle climb with the Vasto Prime as well. One can say that both the AkVastos and Vasto Prime are fairly accurate. So DE, why do the AkVasto Prime have this weird climb when performing steady fire? This has to be an unintended oversight. This is the AkVasto Prime, not the AkLex Prime, let’s not make the former behave like the latter when the unprimed variant never had this issue to begin with. It doesn't make a whole lot of sense that out of all the Vasto pistols, AkVasto P is the only one with recoil like that.. I would like the recoil to be matched with the other Vasto pistols. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenrys_Delta Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Yup, the Akvasto Prime is in a weird spot right now. To the point that I think I´m gonna keep using the regular Akvasto instead of the Prime variant. I mean, if I wanted THAT much recoil I´d use the Aklex. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikakor Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 i bump this thread. looks like i'll have to bump it as much as needed to bring it the the same recoil than normal Akvasto. a prime should be a DIRECT upgrade, no downside, at all. no compromise. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NerdwiseGamgee Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Darn, when Akvasto Prime shipped I remembered a riven I had unveiled and forgotten about long ago which is now darn near perfect. Except that its bane is +85% recoil. Hope this gets patched before I build mine, might even replace my Akmagnus (though I doubt it 😛 ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Achromatic. Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 Akvastos kick like the Aklex but without the damage to back it up. Very disappointing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenrys_Delta Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 38 minutes ago, Achromatic. said: Akvastos kick like the Aklex but without the damage to back it up. Very disappointing. Yup, very disappointing indeed. The Aklex Prime with Steady Hands have the same recoil and way more damage than the Akvasto Prime. And a slightly bigger magazine size. The Akvasto Prime should have the same recoil as the regular version, imo. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Lei-Lei_23 Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 The regular Akvastos has some horizontal muzzle sway, but no climb whatsoever. In a sense, we should be expecting this behavior with the Prime variant but with maybe a slight bit more accuracy. However, the muzzle climb is very unorthodox for the Akvastos and even the Vastos family of firearms. DE, this needs to be patched asap. It’s just plain weird. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenrys_Delta Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 1 hour ago, (PS4)Lei-Lei_23 said: The regular Akvastos has some horizontal muzzle sway, but no climb whatsoever. In a sense, we should be expecting this behavior with the Prime variant but with maybe a slight bit more accuracy. However, the muzzle climb is very unorthodox for the Akvastos and even the Vastos family of firearms. DE, this needs to be patched asap. It’s just plain weird. I waited for so long for the Akvasto Prime, but this recoil makes the weapon a bit... meh. Also the graphic model of the regular Akvasto is way better, IMO. So is the reload animation. But that´s just me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikakor Posted November 17, 2018 Share Posted November 17, 2018 and i bump again! ^^ i want to make it clear to DE. the community waited this weapon for so long, only to be killed by... this recoil. ho, and the answers... "you don't like the recoil ?? use steady hand" yeah, right... because people will certainly sacrifice damage for this... it is weaker than it's regular akvasto version, which isn't what Prime are supposed to be. that's such a buzkill from this weapon that was wanted so much, i really hope DE understand this and changes it, because it kinda ruins it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenrys_Delta Posted November 18, 2018 Share Posted November 18, 2018 I´ve always felt guilty for using the akvasto, since there are better weapons. But I just liked the "look and feel" of the gun. DE had an easy job with this prime: just bump the stats, give it more dps so we could use it without feeling guilty and there you go, an awesome weapon. Instead, they changed the look of the weapon, we don´t have that awesome reload animation anymore, AND they added that god awful recoil. Bummer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolmetimbers Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 Bumping this so it can be fixed. How disappointing the akvariant is because of this recoil change. DE please keep the recoil the same as the regular akvasto. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikakor Posted November 19, 2018 Share Posted November 19, 2018 bumping too. come on DE, give us something, this should be like the akvasto, but BETTER. not "diffrerent" . 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Cynicaid Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 (edited) I had a nice riven for it, but it is unusable with the current recoil. +80% recoil. I'd be aiming at the ceiling with each shot. I barely consider the guns usable without it just from how much of a hit their DPS takes from the base recoil. Edited November 20, 2018 by (PS4)Cynicaid Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Batwing Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Really demotivated from even farming for it after hearing this rather just use single vasto since I had a good riven for it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenrys_Delta Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 2 hours ago, Batwing said: Really demotivated from even farming for it after hearing this rather just use single vasto since I had a good riven for it. I´d advise you to farm it. DE might fix the recoil. At least that´s what I did. My Akvasto Prime is fully formaed, but I´m not using it at all. I´m still using the regular Akvasto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)cleefsentence Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 (edited) DE: changed the recoil of the vasto prime to be the same of the akvasto prime. Edited November 20, 2018 by (PS4)cleefsentence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)ArsArcanumPS Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 I'd be fine with a change to the recoil, but I personally really like how aggressive it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fenrys_Delta Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 well, you´d better off with the Aklex Prime, then. 😃 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikakor Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, Fenrys_Delta said: well, you´d better off with the Aklex Prime, then. 😃 And that's the point, the community wanted the akvasto Prime for so long, and they find a way to make people prefer the normal version. This just screams "issue" . An issue that needs to be corrected, and so we'll keep this thread bumped until DE notice us! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lolmetimbers Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 16 hours ago, mikakor said: And that's the point, the community wanted the akvasto Prime for so long, and they find a way to make people prefer the normal version. This just screams "issue" . An issue that needs to be corrected, and so we'll keep this thread bumped until DE notice us! This. After crafting it I can't even be bothered leveling it as I know how bad the recoil is compared to the vasto prime/akvasto. They really need to adjust it. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikakor Posted November 21, 2018 Share Posted November 21, 2018 6 hours ago, lolmetimbers said: This. After crafting it I can't even be bothered leveling it as I know how bad the recoil is compared to the vasto prime/akvasto. They really need to adjust it. Exactly. The Akvasto Prime is basically the Vasto Prime... With more disadvantages. So it's not worth getting or using. This needs to be changed. The AKvasto Prime have a pretty good fore rate and pin point accuracy... But what's even the point of this with a recoil that high... You put this one a weapon that have a Slow rare of fire and that have a big punch. There is several guns that are even better than that, without recoil. Just look at the damn akstiletto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikakor Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 Bump of the day guys! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Cynicaid Posted November 22, 2018 Share Posted November 22, 2018 I'm tempted to remake the Akjagara just to see which one has the worse recoil. I remember them doing a lot of damage, but they had a savage amount of recoil that made them un-fun to use too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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