Nidus is tankier than Inaros, dont @ me.

[Skaleek 12,381]

1 minute ago, GothKazu-EN- said:

i think he means more along the line of healing increases the EFFECTIVENESS of ehp, because you top up and youre right back to 29K (or whatever number applies)
but that also means Trinity is the best tank in the game shrug

Yup, exactly. I mean Nidus also has the whole self ressurection thing going on, so there are some extra variables in there, but is he tankier without parasitic link? Thats the real question from me.

[-GothKazu- 55]

2 minutes ago, Skaleek said:

Yup, exactly. I mean Nidus also has the whole self ressurection thing going on, so there are some extra variables in there, but is he tankier without parasitic link? Thats the real question from me.

without link or adaptation, or Scarab armor Inaros ahs about 26K ehp to Nidus's 6 (almost 7)K

Edited November 23, 2018 by GothKazu-EN-

[Skaleek 12,381]

2 minutes ago, GothKazu-EN- said:

without link or adaptation, or Scarab armor Inaros ahs about 26K ehp to Nidus's 6K

For me, and this is obviously a preference, since i personally choose not to factor abilities into EHP, makes Inaros tankier. But parasitic link is obviously the point of contention there. Not to mention Nidus has a more versatile kit in terms of cc/damage/utility/group buffs/healing.

Edited November 23, 2018 by Skaleek

[-GothKazu- 55]

1 minute ago, Skaleek said:

For me, and this is obviously a preference, since i personally choose not to factor abilities into EHP, makes Inaros tankier. But parasitic link is obviously the point of contention there.

i can understand that completely, do whatever you feel best about, and play how you like

[SneakyErvin 8,268]

4 minutes ago, Skaleek said:

Self heals are not a part of EHP calculation.

Exactly, which makes EHP a calculation that really only shows the 1HK limit.

WF is one of the few games I've played where people dont add self-sustain into EHP calculations.

[Skaleek 12,381]

If we do count abilities, Wukong is the tankiest warframe with infinite EHP =).

[Skaleek 12,381]

1 minute ago, SneakyErvin said:

Exactly, which makes EHP a calculation that really only shows the 1HK limit.

WF is one of the few games I've played where people dont add self-sustain into EHP calculations.

Yeah, you really only want to know what your threshold for being instagibbed is, because as long as you can take that one hit typically you can respond in time to get yourself safe or the enemy dead.

[Eisdschungel 384]

Opinion from some1 that mainly plays the Two shieldless Bois. Nidus is tankier with his abilties since 5 seconds of undying can (with a couple of enemies and maggots) be enough to regain 15 stacks, Not even calculating his tankiness. He is however Way more touchable by nullies, since he loses link, cc and Stack regain and Stacks to them in which Case Inaros will Take the lead with his higher innate tankiness (and enormous arcane Grace synergy)

[Ailia_Grimm 4,790]

1 minute ago, Eisdschungel said:

Opinion from some1 that mainly plays the Two shieldless Bois. Nidus is tankier with his abilties since 5 seconds of undying can (with a couple of enemies and maggots) be enough to regain 15 stacks, Not even calculating his tankiness. He is however Way more touchable by nullies, since he loses link, cc and Stack regain and Stacks to them in which Case Inaros will Take the lead with his higher innate tankiness (and enormous arcane Grace synergy)

Exactly why I hate Nullies

[Eisdschungel 384]

vor 2 Minuten schrieb Xenox_Ilz-ot:

Exactly why I hate Nullies

Bane of my existence and the reason Why i mainly Play inaros since Fortuna. Nothing Triggers me more than extracting After a sortie with 96 Stacks coz i jumped through a Bubble.

[Afte3rDark 11]

I created this video for other purpose, but i think this is the best place to drop it...

[Rayden_Tenno 938]

@GothKazu-EN- hi! 🙂

[-GothKazu- 55]

28 minutes ago, Xenox_Ilz-ot said:

Exactly why I hate Nullies

 

24 minutes ago, Eisdschungel said:

Bane of my existence and the reason Why i mainly Play inaros since Fortuna. Nothing Triggers me more than extracting After a sortie with 96 Stacks coz i jumped through a Bubble.

Same. those nullifier fields (not even the bubbles, the freaking comba) are murder

[-GothKazu- 55]

12 minutes ago, Rayden_Tenno said:

@GothKazu-EN- hi! 🙂

Hello!! 😄

[moostar95 1,609]

Inaros can face tank nullies just as well as nidus can. Also nidus is caster, inaros is a melee or close quarters kind of frame. This apple/oranges type of comparisons is unnecessary. Some like inaros, some like nidus. What is there need to be said.

[-GothKazu- 55]

3 minutes ago, moostar95 said:

Inaros can face tank nullies just as well as nidus can. Also nidus is caster, inaros is a melee or close quarters kind of frame. This apple/oranges type of comparisons is unnecessary. Some like inaros, some like nidus. What is there need to be said.

...that nidus can face tank more stuff...better?
i already addressed that i like both frames. this isnt inaros bashing lol

[moostar95 1,609]

2 minutes ago, GothKazu-EN- said:

...that nidus can face tank more stuff...better?
i already addressed that i like both frames. this isnt inaros bashing lol

What made me think you we're bashing? Just speaking my mind.

Edited November 23, 2018 by moostar95

[(XBOX)Thy Divinity 3,811]

Not buying it

Inaros has none of the weakness that Nidus possess, and in fact more EHP overall.  Someone also ventured off the foundation mentioning CC, damage, etc

Nidus has great CC and damage, sure.  However, Inaros can CC AN ENTIRE ROOM without sacrificing for damage, and still cause lethal damage himself with just a Covert Lethality dagger.

In the end it simply boils down to preference.  We all know Limbo has 100% damage mitigation anyway, so there 

[(XBOX)Thy Divinity 3,811]

dbl post

Edited November 23, 2018 by (XB1)Thy Divinity

[-GothKazu- 55]

Just now, (XB1)Thy Divinity said:

Not buying it

Inaros has none of the weakness that Nidus possess, and in fact more EHP overall. 

with all of their abilities in mind, ive quite literally already proved the ehp part incorrect.

what weaknesses are you referring to

 

1 minute ago, (XB1)Thy Divinity said:

In the end it simply boils down to preference.  We all know Limbo has 100% damage mitigation anyway, so there 

yes it does, thats what warframe is about. however comma limbo and revenant can still be hurt with their respective "nope" abilities

[Betsill 135]

Limbo is  tankier than both of them so idk  the point of  this post.

[LightningsVengance 908]

thanks for doing the math fam because i know i never would

[-GothKazu- 55]

Just now, Betsill said:

Limbo is  tankier than both of them so idk  the point of  this post.

Wukong and Trinity are the top tanks in the entire game so idk the point of not using them instead shrug

[-GothKazu- 55]

Just now, LightningsVengance said:

thanks for doing the math fam because i know i never would

i had nothing better to do. now go out and spread this virtually useless information to ALL the tenno

[clxrffdman 320]

Is arcane grace/guardian included in these calculations? As inaros has much higher base hp his heals from grace should be much stronger. While this is not "EHP" it does contribute to his overall tankiness.