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25 минут назад, VulpesSly сказал:

Titania is in a decent place atm. I think you are misinterpreting your own desires to that of others

Emmas. Are you here to express the opinion of a community? 

And tell me what I'm not interpreting correctly? If Dex Pixia / DIvata and razorwing become separate abilities, while razorwing gets rid of energy drain, won't this allow for a more subtle build structure, allowing you to abandon strength or energy efficiency and be able to focus on duration and radius, which is useful for Lantern and spellbind? Doesn't an ordinary AOE weapon get a big advantage from a Lantern? Do have a razorwing in the possibility of using 5 types of weapons is not better than 2? Does it even make sense to use Dex Pixia all the time against weak mobs? 

Yes, these are my wishes. But I don't see them in conflict with someone else's. But I can say one thing. It would only be better if Dex Pixia/Divata became a normal weapon, and Titania got a weapon damage buff. Because I can always pick up a normal weapon based on the situation, while Dex Pixia isn't particularly effective against bosses because it's a status weapon, and isn't particularly effective for mobbing because it's a direct weapon. And if there is a conversation about aim, then dual toxicists have the mechanics for this, which gives some fun. What am I talking about, though? In the current situation, when we got melee 3.0, Titania could use paracesis without any buffs other than flying to oneshot Eidolon limb.

Another question, what about you? 

 

 

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Ofcourse I would like to see changes as well.
But u can' t deny that there are other frames in warframe that are more in need of buffs atm.(look at frames like zephyr) Titania is capable of clearing rooms easily enough with some punch through. You can always trade some power for some range if you want lantern to be more effective. Your dex pixia damage is a machinegun with her razorwing augment that replenishes ammo by itself, meaning you do not need to kill enemies in 1 hit. So you do not HAVE to maximize your power strength. U can also always use things like arcane energize to help you with energy maintenance. There are plenty of things u can do with your build.
BUT yes...all of the current builds you would run on Titania are involved with you going into razorwing and dealing damage with dex pixia. So they will all come down to the same playstyle.

I am fine with Titania in her current state. Sure there are things that annoy me. Like razorflies feeling pretty useless when the enemy level goes up... and the last movement changes feeling terrible to me. But I am realistic and think DE's rework team doesn't HAVE to change any of that. I like playing Titania the way it is and don't really share your opinion in it having to need to use other weapons.
Looking at a frame like excalibur...when it presses 4 it was always locked into its exalted weapon as well (untill melee 3.0). Titania became in a different state at that point because it is literally an archwing. At one point DE even said that Titania was meant to be a glass cannon frame...that is why they didn't want to add tankiness like damage reduction to her. Titania was obviously meant to go and try to stay into razorwing. Her cc abilities are there for her own survivability. They clearly wanted you to go out of razorwing to replenish razorflies...so you had to have a cc like lantern to get out of razorwing, and back in. That they arent as good cc's as other frames doesn't matter at that point.
At one point in warframe cc became alot less good than just killing enemies...that is why u wouldn't want to build titania as a mainly cc warframe anyway.

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2 hours ago, VulpesSly said:

In my eyes it would'nt be busted to make razorflies invurnerable. DE could remove the healing on killing an enemy....and basically never having to look at razorflies again. At that point they can serve as your niche aggro puller to help you survive just a little bit more. (If DE thinks this would be way too strong... just remove some of their damage...it isnt like they dealt alot of damage anyway...and you are the main damage, not your razorflies)

This is one way to fix it, but is still feel like being able to mod then is more interesting. (as well as fixing another problem and adding more utility to them.)

 

If this was to happen there needs to be a way to toggle them, hell there needs to be a way to toggle them in general. Aggro pull is nice, but it can be a hindrance sometimes.

  

31 minutes ago, VulpesSly said:

But u can' t deny that there are other frames in warframe that are more in need of buffs atm.(look at frames like zephyr)


The main reason people are talking about her is because of her prime, if they are going to change her in any way this is when they will do it. 

 

 

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I play Titania more than any other frame, but I don't really have any great ideas for new abilities like a lot of the other people here. Here's my input, though:

Spellbind is useful for taking tough or tanky units like Eximii or Noxes off the playing field temporarily. They certainly have a place in her kit besides "Razorwing Blitz Machine". 

Please don't mess with her 4. Dex Pixia is the most powerful weapon in my entire arsenal, as well as being my favorite kind of weapon (twin automatic pistols). Diwata could use a buff, sure, but all of this discussion about splitting up the ability or making you use normal weapons makes me nervous. Life Strike Diwata and well-modded Dex Pixia is more DPS+Self-Healing than any other weapon combo I've used. There's a lot of content that I would have ragequitted if I didn't have the backup of Razorwing's sheer overwhelming force and maneuverability. 

I hope whatever changes she gets do her justice in the long run. Titania hooked me immediately and I don't want any reworks to lose sight of what makes her so fun.

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46 минут назад, VulpesSly сказал:
But u can' t deny that there are other frames in warframe that are more in need of buffs atm.(look at frames like zephyr)

Sorry, but, Zephyr is in the same situation as Titania, because it actually only uses 1 good ability. And Zephyr also got a rework that didn't change much. (Yes, Zephyr doesn't have a good DPS, but its wind shield is able to tank any levels, which is very powerful)

In any case, Titania and zephyr are not related in any way. Titania should get good improvements, this is now more important than Zephyr, which was not even declared for rework.

4 минуты назад, (NSW)Cougarduke сказал:

Please don't mess with her 4. Dex Pixia is the most powerful weapon in my entire arsenal, as well as being my favorite kind of weapon (twin automatic pistols). Diwata could use a buff, sure, but all of this discussion about splitting up the ability or making you use normal weapons makes me nervous. Life Strike Diwata and well-modded Dex Pixia is more DPS+Self-Healing than any other weapon combo I've used. There's a lot of content that I would have ragequitted if I didn't have the backup of Razorwing's sheer overwhelming force and maneuverability.

I understand that you want to save Dex Pixia/Divata. I even understand that you don't want to waste an extra slot of ability on this. And I'm not against both options, because there are solutions for them. Razorwing can have a banal mechanics of pressing and holding the ability key, which would activate razorwing without exalted weapons and with it, with the ability to switch between normal and exalted weapons.

Another point is that Dex Pixia is useless to me. I do have a normal weapon that can kill 200 levels. And I would really like to try some weapon-flight interactions. But, until that happens, I have to settle for Aero Vantage on a frame that has flight by default, which is very frustrating for me.

I'm 100% sure that Dex Pixia/Divata will remain in the Titania set, I just need a way to disable them in razorwing. A small thing, a big opportunity. And it doesn't take much time for developers, because it's already in the game.

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19 minutes ago, (NSW)Cougarduke said:

Spellbind is useful for taking tough or tanky units like Eximii or Noxes off the playing field temporarily. They certainly have a place in her kit besides "Razorwing Blitz Machine". 

Only have 2 gripes with Spellbind, one of which they are already implementing. It should disarm enemies instead of making then drop their weapons. That is it, maybe float in place as well, but this would not really bug me as much if they were disarmed. 

Being able to go "no you can't do anything for x seconds" is really nice.

19 minutes ago, (NSW)Cougarduke said:

all of this discussion about splitting up the ability or making you use normal weapons makes me nervous.

Removing her exalted weapons is not the thing people care about, It is having the option to use normal weapons. As long as this does not make it into 2 abilities it would be overall beneficial to her without really changer how she currently works.    I personally don't care but I see no real downsides.

 

19 minutes ago, (NSW)Cougarduke said:

Titania hooked me immediately and I don't want any reworks to lose sight of what makes her so fun.

🙂 Same

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11 минут назад, Pixzia сказал:

I personally don't care but I see no real downsides.

I see a big problem in the fact that razorwing is only an ability that arcane energy can't use permanently, because this ability is designed for short use. I would prefer razorwing to be the main mechanics of Titania, because that's what I play as Titania for. 

The rest of its mechanics look very dim against the background of other frames, but I would be fine with that. In any case, they consider the undead razorfly, but the undead razorfly need a control system, otherwise they will simply be useless, since their AI always attacks the enemy and never follows Titania. You know, you flew far away, but razorfly stayed in the first room and distract nothing.

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  • 4 weeks later...

Sorry I'm late to the Party. Heared about Titania Rework yesterday. Very nice changes especially what I heared about the gearwheel mechanic for her 2. Big fan, was wondering, why it not allready was the case. I also want to throw my 2 cent into the ring of constructive criticism.

If her passive could get an extension, so that if you are in razorwing your 1,2 and 3 make it that you get a butterfly on cast, if you are not at the max number.

The reason for that is, that reseting your 4 after your butterflys are killed is one of the moments, one dies the easiest.

So far for my "constructive" critisism.

The other to things are just a personal thing and I am more looking for clarification  than a change.

- The first one is that exalted weapons can not use any of the Acolyte Mods anymore and I was wondering if there was a statement about it. It is not limited to Titania's exalted weapons as I saw it on my Valkyr, and Mesa. So I assume a cognitivve decision for that, was just wondering if there is a bit information to read about that 

- The second one is about Arbitration Drones (maybe I should write in an arbitration thread but I figure it is also okay here), It would be nice if exalted weapons of Warframes could deal Damage to them. It took me a lot of time to figure out why Valkyr could not kill them in Hysteria, but using Titania I finally understood. they are Immune to Warframe Abilities. I can understand that this is an integral difficulty for arbitration. but it limits the use of Valkyr and Titania if one does not want to drag down a team by using a frame one likes and while Titania can switch to operator from her 4 now (which might be a nice thing for Valkyr and maybe Mesa too) and the operator can kill drones it is as far as I felt it a very big hassle and comes with its own set of Problems (the time the operator need to kill the drone at a higher level). I have no really good idea for a working change unfortunatly 😞 but wanted to point it out.

Thanks for reading and maybe considering 🙂

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