(PSN)WolfKingHaruu11 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 There is a better way to do trade chat I am not saying to get rid of it for those players who don't have a dojo. But there should be a room that is created in the dojo to connect all the players to a single trading server that allows player to post items they have earned to sell to other players for Ducats, Platinum, or credits. There should also be a station on cetus that allows player to post or buy from there as well. This will allow players to continue to play the game and work as a community to further progress the game and bring even more players to this great game. A good example of a great auction house system is Final Fantasy 11 [The MMO rpg] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulvengeance Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 Been asking for this for years as well as countless others......Thumbs up again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Hikuro-93 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 I never caught up with this topic but it shows up a lot. Like, a whole lot, in many different forms. I must be really good compared to the current system I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhrekr Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 Here's a fun science experiments. Take the DE development team and say "auction house". A fun scientific fact will be observed: those people will cringe and hastily say "no" each single time. I'm kidding, of course, DE don't let anyone capable of saying the words "auction house" near their ears. It is just self-preservation, you know. The best way not to have to say "no" is not to hear the question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulvengeance Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 Auction House basically lets you sell without actively being online, So for those that work, school, ect we can post stuff for sale while on, and it stays up while we are offline so others can still buy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atsia Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 22 minutes ago, Soulvengeance said: Auction House basically lets you sell without actively being online, So for those that work, school, ect we can post stuff for sale while on, and it stays up while we are offline so others can still buy. That exactly what DE DOESN'T want. Half the reason the way we trade is what we have is because DE wants you to have to interact with other players if you want to trade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulvengeance Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 Well there is what DE wants and what Players want. Player Interaction in a game where players are already anti social......ya I can see how DE thinks its a good idea. But again, Players want this, DE does not. DE is very peculiar about what they put there foot down on and fail to in other areas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Voltage Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 I would not like to see an auction house. The current system forces the player to sacrifice playing missions to earn items and currency. That is a fair trade off and we already have third parties to sell Riven Mods (Forums/Riven.Market) and other items (Warframe.Market). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulvengeance Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 Third party is nice, but not effective as a built in version. And as you point out , trying to exchange goods greatly cuts into play time, making it hateful for those of us that would rather play not play broker. As it stands I slowly play warframe less and less because it is more of a second job then fun factor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atsia Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 (edited) 12 minutes ago, Soulvengeance said: Well there is what DE wants and what Players want. Player Interaction in a game where players are already anti social......ya I can see how DE thinks its a good idea. But again, Players want this, DE does not. DE is very peculiar about what they put there foot down on and fail to in other areas. Well that's one thing they put the foot down on. Also, as you'll see, there's a strong portion of the community, like me, that doesn't want an AH cause we see how that that completely #*!% over trade economy. You should probably look up all the MANY other threads an AHs to get an idea. Edited December 2, 2018 by Atsia Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Soulvengeance Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 (edited) First, I have read many of them, I have played many games that use AH, just because a strong portion of the community likes it one way does not mean all of us do therefor difference in opinion is will occur. Edited December 2, 2018 by Soulvengeance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterc3 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 4 hours ago, (PS4)WolfKingHaruu11 said: But there should be a room that is created in the dojo to connect all the players to a single trading server that allows player to post items they have earned to sell to other players for Ducats, Platinum, or credits. Sure. If it is only for Credits. The moment you allow Plat into the conversation there will be a hard no from DE on passively trading Plat, something that is not a person to person trade where they are both going out of their way to do so. Trading Plat will never be much, if any, easier than it is now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ohforf3 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 4 hours ago, (PS4)WolfKingHaruu11 said: There is a better way to do trade chat I am not saying to get rid of it for those players who don't have a dojo. But there should be a room that is created in the dojo to connect all the players to a single trading server that allows player to post items they have earned to sell to other players for Ducats, Platinum, or credits. There should also be a station on cetus that allows player to post or buy from there as well. This will allow players to continue to play the game and work as a community to further progress the game and bring even more players to this great game. A good example of a great auction house system is Final Fantasy 11 [The MMO rpg] I have never seen an auction house added to a game improve the situation. Items of value have their prices skyrocket due to resellers running bots to bid, pushing up the prices to what they want it to be. Common items will have their prices drop to the point of having no value. Adding the option to set prices and buy directly from the shops would turn Maroo's into a proper market which also fits the description of what you are asking for without the bot friendly bidding system of an auction house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Hikuro-93 Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Ohforf3 said: Adding the option to set prices and buy directly from the shops would turn Maroo's into a proper market which also fits the description of what you are asking for without the bot friendly bidding system of an auction house. I agree. Much simpler. Let the seller decide the base price. If the player wants to haggle he can pm, but at least we avoid a bit that petty game that is "offer... No u offer" to see who can scam who. Edited December 2, 2018 by (PS4)Pauloluisx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marvelous_A Posted December 2, 2018 Share Posted December 2, 2018 I don't see there is any incentive for DE to make trading simpler. The easier you get passive plat income the less likely you will pay for plat and it's the exact opposite to what DE want you to do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Schobii564 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 No thx, auction houses are some of the most exploitable things in videogames Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Falconer777 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 14 часов назад, (PS4)WolfKingHaruu11 сказал: A good example of a great auction house system is Final Fantasy 11 [The MMO rpg] In Guild Wars 2 is also a good auction. But if the assumption that DE creates an artificial difficulty in trading to stimulate platinum sales is true - then there is little chance, alas. Although I am sure that with the auction they would earn more money. Just because it would be much more convenient not only to sell, but also to BUY. And the convenience of buying at auction will encourage the purchase of platinum to a much greater extent, than the existing system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)guzmantt1977 Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 14 hours ago, (PS4)Pauloluisx said: I agree. Much simpler. Let the seller decide the base price. If the player wants to haggle he can pm, but at least we avoid a bit that petty game that is "offer... No u offer" to see who can scam who. So don't initiate contact with people who don't want to call a starting price. Other than that, what you are asking for is what we already have, because you can't haggle with people who are offline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SqualZell Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 On 2018-12-02 at 11:41 AM, Soulvengeance said: Auction House basically lets you sell without actively being online, So for those that work, school, ect we can post stuff for sale while on, and it stays up while we are offline so others can still buy. If this happens there is no more need to buy platinum from the cash shop ever again good for me bad for DE see why they don't want an auction house/offline marketplace? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MdzKnight Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 Maybe a middle ground then? Don't allow offline trades, but at least allow us a way to catalog our loot into a shop window so players can do keyword search for your stuff and let you know they're interested? Effective You can also add a limiter where your stuff temporarily disappears from the market if you go on missions (The idea is if your stuff is on the market, that itself is proof that you're not doing missions and you're free to trade). I can absolutely see the point that an offline way to trade plat will greatly devalue it. It's just that watching the trade chat scroll by, until you find something you want - or until someone replies to your offers, and only then does the haggling finally start... it just feels slow and not-fun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SqualZell Posted December 3, 2018 Share Posted December 3, 2018 1 hour ago, MandzPH said: but at least allow us a way to catalog our loot into a shop window so players can do keyword search for your stuff and let you know they're interested? Effective warframe.market literally what you described Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MdzKnight Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 (edited) 10 hours ago, SqualZell said: warframe.market literally what you described Can't believe I forgot to mention that, that website was exactly what I had in mind. Not saying we should ditch the site, but it would be nice if the community didn't end up having to create something like that in the first place. Edited December 4, 2018 by MandzPH Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)guzmantt1977 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 21 minutes ago, MandzPH said: Can't believe I forgot to mention that, that website was exactly what I had in mind. Not saying we should ditch the site, but it would be nice if the community didn't end up having to create something like that in the first place. Right, so what you really want is a time machine to undo the conditions leading to the creation of warframe market? 🤔 OK I support that. 👍 11 hours ago, MandzPH said: I can absolutely see the point that an offline way to trade plat will greatly devalue it. It's just that watching the trade chat scroll by, until you find something you want - or until someone replies to your offers, and only then does the haggling finally start... it just feels slow and not-fun. Filters are helpful, and reasonable pricing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)CodyXSavageX Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 (edited) To my understanding An Auction house would change the economy heavily due to people having better knowledge of competition and more people selling for less to best competing sellers and buying for less due to this so I can probably see why DE is hesitant to make this change this far into the game’s life this is based on brokers/auction houses in games i’ve played and how people use them if this is added we can expect a radical shift in pricing based on how the community interacts with it Edited December 4, 2018 by (PS4)BloodyXSavageX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Hikuro-93 Posted December 4, 2018 Share Posted December 4, 2018 On 2018-12-03 at 11:21 AM, (PS4)guzmantt1977 said: So don't initiate contact with people who don't want to call a starting price. Other than that, what you are asking for is what we already have, because you can't haggle with people who are offline. Fine by me. If I'm selling something I'll have a price in mind, and I may be able to lower it a bit if needed. Same if I'm buying, I can try to haggle a bit but I know a starting point for theseller to be happy. If the price is way too high then the buyer doesn't need to bother and annoy the buyer. That time you'd be ranting for an exchange that would never take place could be used for actual trades. That's just my opinion of course. It's not like the current system doesn't stop me from earning the stuff I want, I'm just not a haggler and I dislike losing time, either with greedy sellers, or cheap buyers. Luckily those are somewhat rare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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