Nekros farming survivability help

[5m4llP0X]

So, I have despoil and Equilibrium and it farms quite well, but when I'm solo-farming I have a small issue with surviving. Since energy orbs cannot be picked up if you're maxed on energy (and thus they cannot proc the health side via equilibrium) would it be viable to run a long reach melee weapon using channeling? This way your energy is always dropping and you're always regenning health from both orbs. I'm not looking to run this through a sortie, but maybe tier 5 quests out on the Plains of Eidelon? (Trying to farm for Devar Gray pigment)
I came up with this idea during a survival mission where I needed health just tried with my Gram Prime. It kept me up for a good 35 minutes, before everyone wanted to leave, but I wondered if I used a slash-focused melee weapon energy channeled would it be viable, or should I just stick with farming with friends?

[K4RN4]

Health Conversion.

And never use Shield of Shadows.

[5m4llP0X]

7 minutes ago, Oru5732 said:

Health Conversion.

And never use Shield of Shadows.

So is that a "No, don't bother with melee channeling, even on this" or a "I didn't actually read your question" answer?

[Razorv2]

Why dont you spend your energy better way? Channeling is slow for energy dumping and you cant always rely on melee combat. Take out your power efficiency mods, that should help, also cast soul punch more. İf you aim downwards, enemies wont fly that much. 

Terrify is also good for energy dumping. 

I casually use nekros on sortie defense and open areas. İf you want ı can share full build but it requires 3 forma. 

[Xzorn]

This is my general Nekros build I use for Farming / Solo. There's others for more dedicated roles.

https://imgur.com/rApAsPT

Sometimes I use Rush for Bounties or more fast paced missions. You can often hit the mitigation cap on Shield of Shadows without the Power Strength since much of the time Shadows will summon something and you'll go up to 9-13 of them. Zenurik is a bad thing for Nekros outside Bounties and so is Trinity EV. It's actually a little funny. The few times I've been with an EV Trinity in a group she's actually slowly killing me.

In general Energy gain with Equilibrium will flow naturally with your kill rate and Despoil procs. If you're not using Blind Rage or have a lot of Duration that might be why you have ample energy. I find on Bounties I actually need to use Zenurik at times because there's simply not enough to kill but Naramon or Madurai are much better schools for Nekros.

For the rest of the game summoning Shadows to dump energy or Channeling will work fine, esp since Nekros is somewhat melee weighted due to shadows blocking most gun fire. In my experience by the time you get energy topped off it's getting close to refreshing Shadows. You can get a Fear in here and there but it's not really needed outside a Panic Button. Arcane Pulse in place of Aegis can be useful if you're in need of health. I've been meaning to compare it but Aegis is quite good for him. He can also make good use of offensive Arcanes like Strike or Avenger as he's already very Defense based.

[5m4llP0X]

1 hour ago, Razorv2 said:

Why don't you spend your energy better way? Channeling is slow for energy dumping and you cant always rely on melee combat. Take out your power efficiency mods, that should help, also cast soul punch more. İf you aim downwards, enemies wont fly that much. 

Terrify is also good for energy dumping. 

I casually use nekros on sortie defense and open areas. İf you want ı can share full build but it requires 3 forma. 

You can get the cost per swing pretty up there, and using a slashing weapon can allow for the body to be chopped up for additional drops. I just figured the drop of energy from that would have helped with surviving while farming for certain items. Remember: I'm only using Nekros for farming, not for end-game. For that I have Inaros and Rhino Prime. Sadly I don't have any of the important mods (Primes, or most nightmare mods) to make Frost, Limbo, or some of the others viable.

1 hour ago, Xzorn said:

This is my general Nekros build I use for Farming / Solo. There's others for more dedicated roles.

https://imgur.com/rApAsPT

Sometimes I use Rush for Bounties or more fast paced missions. You can often hit the mitigation cap on Shield of Shadows without the Power Strength since much of the time Shadows will summon something and you'll go up to 9-13 of them. Zenurik is a bad thing for Nekros outside Bounties and so is Trinity EV. It's actually a little funny. The few times I've been with an EV Trinity in a group she's actually slowly killing me.

In general Energy gain with Equilibrium will flow naturally with your kill rate and Despoil procs. If you're not using Blind Rage or have a lot of Duration that might be why you have ample energy. I find on Bounties I actually need to use Zenurik at times because there's simply not enough to kill but Naramon or Madurai are much better schools for Nekros.

For the rest of the game summoning Shadows to dump energy or Channeling will work fine, esp since Nekros is somewhat melee weighted due to shadows blocking most gun fire. In my experience by the time you get energy topped off it's getting close to refreshing Shadows. You can get a Fear in here and there but it's not really needed outside a Panic Button. Arcane Pulse in place of Aegis can be useful if you're in need of health. I've been meaning to compare it but Aegis is quite good for him. He can also make good use of offensive Arcanes like Strike or Avenger as he's already very Defense based.

I don't have any of the primed mods, blind rage or health conversion. Nor do I have those arcanes. Also: I'm just using Nekros for farming items (So tons of range and efficiency), not for any end-game stuff. So that is why I was wondering if using the channeling would work for keeping his energy down so equilibrium procs more often.

[Vosenedich]

I've recently acquired Health Conversion, and exclusively for Nekros, it has been a pleasure to use, specially in Kuva Survival. Personally, I'd recommend that you take Shield of Shadows and Despoil augments. Your energy will get dumped into the shadows. You also don't need that much range on your build for farming, as long as you move around, as single Stretch mod should suffice.

The build I use is geared towards long Kuva Survivals, but it should work as a guideline for what youre asking:

Edited December 5, 2018 by Vosenedich
Added image for Nekros build

[dated]

If I'm not mistaken with Despoil, health orb is easier to obtain so getting/having Health Conversion is (at least for me) better option.

https://imgur.com/a/rYNEjy8

 

Edited December 5, 2018 by dated