ChadAgWing Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 No, it'll be opt-in as per the latest devstream. We really don't need another thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keyosbringer Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 (edited) Problem: people don't always read forum / watch devstream, hence the constant threads, can't be stopped I suppose. Edited December 10, 2018 by keyosbringer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeMonkey Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 17 minutes ago, ChadAgWing said: We really don't need another thread. And yet... here we are? 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dhrekr Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 30 minutes ago, ChadAgWing said: We really don't need another thread. Let's all open complain threads where we complain about complain threads. MetacomplainingFTW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SneakyErvin Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 So the mode will be DoA then even though they dont wanna release modes in a DoA state. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GinKenshin Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornWithTeeth Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 5 minutes ago, GinKenshin said: Agreed. Lads, there’s no need for this many threads. Let’s try the following, shall we? Launch the mode with an opt out/opt in function. If the mode is a good idea that people will enjoy and which won’t encourage griefing, then enough people will opt in. If the mode is instead (by mechanics) a toxic griefing encouragement, people will realise that and opt out. Self solving problem. Put in some exclusive cosmetics, good ones, up to and including some nice edgy looking full Sekharas, one for successful Stalker assassinations and one for successfully driving off player Stalkers. Anyone find much to disagree with? 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HugintheCrow Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 I for one, would play it (both sides), or at least attempt to (can never assume it would work well with connection issues wf has). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yousho Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 It's already being "forced" on you. The A.I. is just going to get a bit dumber. 😉 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeopetsMaster4432 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 (edited) This is surprising. Hopefully it will have unique rewards for both the Stalker and people that kill the Stalker though. That's probably the only sort of thing that could save such a mode if they don't end up making it mandatory. It's a cool premise, hope it doesn't turn out any worse than Archwings or Defection.(those at least have rewards and content locked behind them, so people do them) Would be pretty good if it had exclusive rewards, and you couldn't opt back out once you've opted in. Edited December 10, 2018 by NeopetsMaster4432 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lady_Xenomorph Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Playable stalker beyond stalker mode. Make the stalker as a playable frame as a special frame. This would be a nice reward or at least release his helmet and it could be a nice addition to excals. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SneakyErvin Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 (edited) 42 minutes ago, BornWithTeeth said: Anyone find much to disagree with? Yes I disagree because those resources could be spent on making actual PVE end-game that this game badly needs and the possible rewards intended for a PvP mode could instead be used as rewards in a PvE mode in a PvE game. edit: But I guess DE is aiming for that old saying "4th time is a charm". No wait, that isnt how that saying goes. Edited December 10, 2018 by SneakyErvin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BornWithTeeth Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 (edited) 6 minutes ago, SneakyErvin said: Yes I disagree because those resources could be spent on making actual PVE end-game that this game badly needs and the possible rewards intended for a PvP mode could instead be used as rewards in a PvE mode in a PvE game. Then, funnily enough, I find myself arguing very somewhat in favour of Stalker mode. I’m sure many of the folks with whom I have butted heads over the past couple of days would be shocked. - The bones of the mode already exist. It’s already been made. It merely needs some polish and bugfixing. - Scott wants to ensure the mode comes bundled with lore, and I for one would like some answers about the Stalker, at long last. - The consensus emerging is that the mode will be optional, which is really the only way it could work without being a toxic mess. - It will make a minority of players super happy, so if that can be done without pissing everyone else off with a mandatory PvP encounter, then why not? - Most of the proposed rewards are exclusive cosmetics, or simply a slightly faster way to acquire otherwise rare items. See? Edited December 10, 2018 by BornWithTeeth 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaemyerelis Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 1 hour ago, keyosbringer said: Problem: people don't always read forum / watch devstream, hence the constant threads, can't be stopped I suppose. Problem, people overreact. 😛 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HellVOps Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Another one.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)VaricBreem Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 16 minutes ago, BornWithTeeth said: Then, funnily enough, I find myself arguing very somewhat in favour of Stalker mode. I’m sure many of the folks with whom I have butted heads over the past couple of days would be shocked. - The bones of the mode already exist. It’s already been made. It merely needs some polish and bugfixing. - Scott wants to ensure the mode comes bundled with lore, and I for one would like some answers about the Stalker, at long last. - The consensus emerging is that the mode will be optional, which is really the only way it could work without being a toxic mess. - It will make a minority of players super happy, so if that can be done without pissing everyone else off with a mandatory PvP encounter, then why not? - Most of the proposed rewards are exclusive cosmetics, or simply a slightly faster way to acquire otherwise rare items. - Game mode will be a slaughter first few days upon realease - Stalker player will complain about Xframe,Xweapon,Operator one shotting them -Buffs applied to stalker resulting in low level encounters being impossible to defend against,Nerfs across the board for PVE to make stalker relevant -people who opt out are punished because the game mode was implemented even though they did not participate -New players and disgruntled players leave the game -See? added a few points you missed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarrotSalad Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 How will it be opt in exactly? If i join a squad of 4 people and 1 has opted into stalker invasions while the other 3 have opted out. Am i going to have to face the PVP mode anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SneakyErvin Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 6 minutes ago, BornWithTeeth said: Then, funnily enough, I find myself arguing very somewhat in favour of Stalker mode. I’m sure many of the folks with whom I have butted heads over the past couple of days would be shocked. - The bones of the mode already exist. It’s already been made. It merely needs some polish and bugfixing. - Scott wants to ensure the mode comes bundled with lore, and I for one would like some answers about the Stalker, at long last. - The consensus emerging is that the mode will be optional, which is really the only way it could work without being a toxic mess. - It will make a minority of players super happy, so if that can be done without pissing everyone else off with a mandatory PvP encounter, then why not? - Most of the proposed rewards are exclusive cosmetics, or simply a slightly faster way to acquire otherwise rare items. See? But we all know none of those are viable reasons for it to be released. 1. Simply isnt true, because if it was then we wouldnt look at a stalker release "months" away. This is simply reading between the lines, if it was ready and needed polish we'd see it very soon. When something is months away we know it needs work like Fortuna, Railjack, Melee 3.0 etc. 2. Great idea, but DE have already said they dont wanna exclude people from things that drive the story and lore forward, which a PvP mode would do, since not everyone wants to PvP. 3. This leads to a DoA state of the mode, which Scott has said recently isnt something they want. They dont want a mode to be dead before it releases, which was what he feared with an opt in/out Stalker mode. So that is already a massive issue to solve before releasing it. Everything else is a waste of resources. 4. Never ever cater to the extremely small group of players, even if it makes them super happy. It just drains resources for no reason but to please extremely few people. 5. Those same rewards could be given in a future PvE mode instead, the type of thing people mostly play this game for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lanadra Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 2 hours ago, ChadAgWing said: No, it'll be opt-in as per the latest devstream. We really don't need another thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Myscho Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 But, but,......we need MOAr threads Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarrotSalad Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 Heres a link to a more constructive thread if people want to add and put some thought into the discusion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(XBOX)ECCHO SIERRA Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 2 hours ago, Dhrekr said: Let's all open complain threads where we complain about complain threads. MetacomplainingFTW. Let's complain about meta complaining while we are at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)wintersfrozen Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 1 hour ago, CarrotSalad said: How will it be opt in exactly? If i join a squad of 4 people and 1 has opted into stalker invasions while the other 3 have opted out. Am i going to have to face the PVP mode anyway? I imagine its going to be similar to how the stalker is now. So if your the type of player who doesn't help when the stalker shows up and gets locked behind a door then you probably have nothing to worry about. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
(PSN)Zero_029 Posted December 10, 2018 Share Posted December 10, 2018 @DeMonkey I'm just waiting for a mod to merge them all into 1 big mega-thread. The combined Salt should be enough to dump on Venus & Terraform a whole new landscape map for players to explore. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corvid Posted December 28, 2018 Share Posted December 28, 2018 55 minutes ago, AmandaRekonwith said: This game needs more griefing. Everyone should automatically be opted in. This thread really didn't need to come back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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