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29 hotfixes since chimera update and still no fix for melee locking your movement and momentum isn't working. melee is literally unplayable at it's current state. (it's getting really annoying)

 

 

  • sword and shield's shields are being holstered too high despite using final harbinger whereas before it lowers the shield towards the hand when you start swinging.

Before chimera update

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  • atlas's loincloth is buggy when using weapons like heavy blade swords and single handed pistols.

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  • lex conlave skin's magazine sticks out at the sides.

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  • War's blade energy not displaying while having mara detron equipped

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  • perla pistol skin is bugged for arca sisco, stubba,euphona prime, and pandero once again.

arca sisco

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stubba

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euphona prime

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pandero

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Please keep handing out those sweet bans. The more people banned for exploiting the better. Thank you for cleaning up the game DE, the less people like this in the game the better!

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6 hours ago, Voltage said:

Thank you for the hotfix!

I am guessing this was the Khora affinity exploit advertised on YouTube. I have witnessed bugs/exploits/abuse shown by partners in the past, but I still wonder why they keep their affiliation badge. This seems very similar to a certain topic looming on Reddit regarding the behavior of affiliated players.

Agreed any partner worth their salt and their more knowing community members would know not to screw with anything like this and actively advise against it when brought up in chat. 

The good news is this is a clear example for future reference. 

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47 minutes ago, Mandolin53 said:

They never gave mastery, thats the thing, even though theyre supposed to, Ive put 15 levels into my k drive and maxed a moa (gilded) and no mastery at all

the moa I bought with plat 100% gave me mastery (since it comes gilded IIRC). without it's MR XP I would of never hit MR26. 

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1 hour ago, XzWasPzX said:

I'd say... don`t cheat. Im sorry for all those banned by the exploit, im really sorry, but somehow it's fair. On the other hand, as I'm compassive I wouldn't ban them this time, only because it can be many people influenced by the youtuber. But seriously, don't cheat. MR almost 23, i have leveled all my stuff legally, part of enjoying the game is to level stuff and think about the possible builds, so do it right. Excuse my english, obviously im not english native, but hope you have understood. 

Like you I also leveled my stuff legitimately IE: I bought a affinity booster, went to hydron/ESO with S#&$ weapons and let friends and/or pubs carry me. I've also been on the other end of this carrying pubs on both with them leaving after 1 or 2 rounds. so I consider it fine in the WF community. Hardly anyone's playing Hydron for the drops anyhow since xini is just as fast and is way more kind on relics and a lot more semi-AFK friendly. 

All this said people leveling up weapons in mere seconds. What did they expect to happen!? 

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6 hours ago, Mavolent said:

it was a Khora exploit
if you used khora's 3 while her Kavat was "dead" and spammed, it would increase a weapon, or anything to level 30 in under 30 secs
i didn't tried it bcs i knew this thing would end up with Ban.
a Youtuber shown that exploit and got banned, i think he's included

At least we should get a proper explanation in patch notes instead of toxic parenting: "I know what you did, go to your room" :awkward:

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6 hours ago, CrazyDarkSonic said:

The exploit was harmless and yet you ban people? Really disappointing from DE.

It's unfair to people who leveled WF's entire arsenal to reach MR25/26 without using a bug. The daily standing system is a legitimate way to earn a decent amount of plat for example the very first day people could get Thyst blueprint from Smokefinger i was able to sell six refined Thyst's at 15p each in the first 5 mins as they were needed to craft Garuda. I'd say the odd's of something simular happening again is high. Plus getting 26k syndicate standing per day can easily translate into 12p or so. 

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The Solaris United standing gained shown in the progress and reward table isn't accordance with what i get when i return to Fortuna. For example, i got 24500 Solaris United standing in the progress and reward table, but when i return to Fortuna i only get 18200 standing

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1 hour ago, MrMroczneMleczko said:

Yea,  the abusers deserved it. I only did it once to try and guess that forma is staying there xd

 

Imagine if this is how DE distribute the ban - Forma count on you Khora bigger than single digit = see you in 2035  

Or maybe I should not talk about this either? 

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Making this post to part defend and explain the whole situation here. I was thinking of leaving it as is, maybe people will found the way to get out the hole, but still if they not. I might brag myself about it later.

First of all, making it clear "I don't get banned nor any of my friends, clan member", cuz of using that "exp" exploit if you wanna call it like that. But I definitely saw it on youtube. I might tried it If I had smth to level doe, cuz it seemed like basic bug as always in warframe. Saw few videos on youtube, thought "gonna try if I'm not lazy since I knew it's gonna be fixed in a couple of days" but it wasn't fixed since fortuna's launch that's not people mistakes, that's DE's. Sorry DE I love you, but I'm speaking the truth. MR 26 btw here. You can't tell me that: "You can't find bugs left and right in the game" gonna talk about it later. When I saw this hotfix and hidden message: "We have fixed an exploit that could only be performed knowingly. Now that the issue is fixed, we will be reviewing our database for extreme offenders and issuing suspensions accordingly." was thinking hmm what it was. Then started reading comments and found out it was exp bug. After that I remembered that bug that I saw and was thanking to myself that I forgot about it at all, cuz who knows maybe even I could tried it. To people who says: "They got what they deserved" must be new ones here, no offense but I really think so. If you really think this is the first game "exploit" (Found this word only after this ban wave doe) or game braking mechanic, that was ever in the game and players can benefit from it, I'm sorry but you're WRONG. To me there is kinda three times players in every game: 1. Basic player, who plays by the rules from the game launch till this moment, does everything as it is (Have to feel bad for such player) where is fun in that tell me? 5 years same thing huh xD. 2. Player who player by the rules till here reaches point where you need to invent smth to make game fun again (Playing by the rules with the bugs). 3. Cheaters who uses other software or mouse scripts to cheat their way to the top or skip time how I say. (This is the out time people that I hate the most and if they got caught, should be never ever un_banned, what I'm saying here you basically done for, so get out in term language). Let's start from beginning what I still can remember from all these years. Let's start with Draco, who still don't know, that it was the simplest exp farm in the game back then, most of my gear I leveled up there without any boosts or anything, it was the fastest exp grind apart stealth exp, just take excal as dmg and you gucci (had insane dmg though walls). Let's bring the biggest juice there ever was "RAIDS" oh boi. In now terms called game exploited area. Basically what I'm saying You could complete missions in 13+ min (Lor and Lor NM) instead of an hour since operator launched. So you basically getting those arcane as fast as you can (Keep aside that after mission, mission was on cooldown, but still). You could skip, exploit your way through that first room in seconds, you could skip doors through first and second room (room - maps). And there is JV, where you can skip doors on third map with specific frames as skip all third part in seconds. Now let's talk about these days "exploit" there was in game where they got fixed and no one got banned for it thank god. First of all Wukong+throwing Zaw nuke, where you could clear room in seconds (gain more exp exp/hour). There zaw dagger + arcane (Exodia Contagion) got nerfed. Then wukong augment appeared when you only was needed Glaive to nuke rooms (gain more exp/hour) got fixed. Banshee's 4th after rework was insanely good, where you can clear rooms in second without any energy basically, just have zenurik and you're good. Akkad credit farm + secura lectra before rework of secura it was the fastest way to get credits in the game, I remember when I got 1,7mil in 15 waves that was smth, it was bug not "exploit" of the game, you give us bug we take it while we can while enjoying. Oh there was also synoid gammacor back then when I farmed every single boss with it, it was just one-shooting every boss not a big deal, yea? okay. Said Now days bug, but I lied how it seems, cuz memory it such hard thing to control doe. Secura penta, tonkor nukes fun times. Synoid simulor run and gun. Saryn + spores on the clone + toroid = nuke. Daikyu one-shooting every player with specific mod as Anku also. Ok ok now days. Eidolons + madurai = one-shot them (not a big deal) I used it cuz is fast, less work, fun, not just sit there and pew pew for years. For that sometimes I miss Raids and their bugs. Wanna exp bug? The last fast exp "exploit" (your words not mine) was Sanctuary onslaught after launch, where you can get plenty of exp in two rounds, two god damn rounds without boost. With boost was even faster than that. (Got fixed in 1 or 2 days can't remember), problem was that there mobs lvl/exp as not in sanctuary onslaught mode. And now new Arbitration mods (Don't know if there is still a thing or not). What basically you can do with them, you can brake a game or just make yourself a 9th kingdom undefeated boss, just that. You made a mistake we took it as advantage, should we all get banned for that, for making game fun to us after all these years, I don't think so. Now let's talk about macro. I never saw macro as a good thing, since most  people used it in old RS as afk farm, you just press one key and put auto on it boom done. So when it got implemented in warframe from the start I saw it as a bad thing and though that everyone was cheating back then, cuz I only knew macro for one thing afk part time. First time I hear about it was when secura lectra and credit farm was a thing, where instead of breaking your left hand's pinky, pointing and tumb, you just could spam one button to make deadly spin. So I never saw it as good thing. But since got bored last year or this year can't remember of gear wheel (time waster) I'm too starting using them, just for gear wheel, to make it spammable. So when I hear that you let 3 combo macros, I didn't believed, so I never used it , but know some people who use them daily. And now this Khora's 3rd + macro made her 3rd spammable was peoples fault. Yea they found the bug in the game where they made advantage of it and? Everytime people find smth, but somehow you just skipped videos on youtube, threads on forum and let it keep happening since fortuna's launch, why I'm saying launch? I'm pretty sure it already was in the game before any hotfix after fortuna, but people didn't found till recent. Gonna repeat myself again, I love DE, but DE you left typical bug "again" and you though that no one will found it, as always. I'm also not saying that they shouldn't be punished for "Warframe + macro combo", just of macro part I agree with you, it was too much game braking here, but still I don't agree that they should be banned for 17 years doe. Give them 1-4 weeks, cuz you still need to address people who where using it of not knowing the consequence or of curiosity. Cuz how I said word "exploit" instead of a "game bug" I only learned today, after all there bugs in the past I tried myself, so half of that banned crowd today might be also. Sometimes I'm thinking what would happen to me if someday I got banned and support won't help me, do I leave warframe for good? Do I fight till the end, till the last breath? Do I recreate new account and start over? Probably do fight till I lost interest or run out of counter attack. If that won't help probably would leave for good, just remembering all there years, pain, hard work, resources ($), pleasure I spent on this game (this would be my emotions from the start of playing till ban: happy,lazy,happy for new contend,banned = angry). Sometimes was fun as hell, sometimes I swear it pisses me off, then you start looking for word called "skip" that part. Or when you are veteran it's other story you just keep looking for new things to play with, cuz you in a state of laziness. So in summary ban real cheaters for 17 years and those who breaked your game with your leftovers after fortuna's launch for 1-4 weeks + reroll exp they gained back. Or think of smth else not so harsh as like comparing it with prison sentence.

I think I added everything I knew from this point forward or didn't wanted to address other things about the game. Most people might agree with me most might not, but you can have your way, I don't blame it. I just said what I wanted it might help some, some might not.

Till then, Happy Reading. 😉 Cius

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12 minutes ago, MotedLTU said:

Making this post to part defend and explain the whole situation here. I was thinking of leaving it as is, maybe people will found the way to get out the hole, but still if they not. I might brag myself about it later.

First of all, making it clear "I don't get banned nor any of my friends, clan member", cuz of using that "exp" exploit if you wanna call it like that. But I definitely saw it on youtube. I might tried it If I had smth to level doe, cuz it seemed like basic bug as always in warframe. Saw few videos on youtube, thought "gonna try if I'm not lazy since I knew it's gonna be fixed in a couple of days" but it wasn't fixed since fortuna's launch that's not people mistakes, that's DE's. Sorry DE I love you, but I'm speaking the truth. MR 26 btw here. You can't tell me that: "You can't find bugs left and right in the game" gonna talk about it later. When I saw this hotfix and hidden message: "We have fixed an exploit that could only be performed knowingly. Now that the issue is fixed, we will be reviewing our database for extreme offenders and issuing suspensions accordingly." was thinking hmm what it was. Then started reading comments and found out it was exp bug. After that I remembered that bug that I saw and was thanking to myself that I forgot about it at all, cuz who knows maybe even I could tried it. To people who says: "They got what they deserved" must be new ones here, no offense but I really think so. If you really think this is the first game "exploit" (Found this word only after this ban wave doe) or game braking mechanic, that was ever in the game and players can benefit from it, I'm sorry but you're WRONG. To me there is kinda three times players in every game: 1. Basic player, who plays by the rules from the game launch till this moment, does everything as it is (Have to feel bad for such player) where is fun in that tell me? 5 years same thing huh xD. 2. Player who player by the rules till here reaches point where you need to invent smth to make game fun again (Playing by the rules with the bugs). 3. Cheaters who uses other software or mouse scripts to cheat their way to the top or skip time how I say. (This is the out time people that I hate the most and if they got caught, should be never ever un_banned, what I'm saying here you basically done for, so get out in term language). Let's start from beginning what I still can remember from all these years. Let's start with Draco, who still don't know, that it was the simplest exp farm in the game back then, most of my gear I leveled up there without any boosts or anything, it was the fastest exp grind apart stealth exp, just take excal as dmg and you gucci (had insane dmg though walls). Let's bring the biggest juice there ever was "RAIDS" oh boi. In now terms called game exploited area. Basically what I'm saying You could complete missions in 13+ min (Lor and Lor NM) instead of an hour since operator launched. So you basically getting those arcane as fast as you can (Keep aside that after mission, mission was on cooldown, but still). You could skip, exploit your way through that first room in seconds, you could skip doors through first and second room (room - maps). And there is JV, where you can skip doors on third map with specific frames as skip all third part in seconds. Now let's talk about these days "exploit" there was in game where they got fixed and no one got banned for it thank god. First of all Wukong+throwing Zaw nuke, where you could clear room in seconds (gain more exp exp/hour). There zaw dagger + arcane (Exodia Contagion) got nerfed. Then wukong augment appeared when you only was needed Glaive to nuke rooms (gain more exp/hour) got fixed. Banshee's 4th after rework was insanely good, where you can clear rooms in second without any energy basically, just have zenurik and you're good. Akkad credit farm + secura lectra before rework of secura it was the fastest way to get credits in the game, I remember when I got 1,7mil in 15 waves that was smth, it was bug not "exploit" of the game, you give us bug we take it while we can while enjoying. Oh there was also synoid gammacor back then when I farmed every single boss with it, it was just one-shooting every boss not a big deal, yea? okay. Said Now days bug, but I lied how it seems, cuz memory it such hard thing to control doe. Secura penta, tonkor nukes fun times. Synoid simulor run and gun. Saryn + spores on the clone + toroid = nuke. Daikyu one-shooting every player with specific mod as Anku also. Ok ok now days. Eidolons + madurai = one-shot them (not a big deal) I used it cuz is fast, less work, fun, not just sit there and pew pew for years. For that sometimes I miss Raids and their bugs. Wanna exp bug? The last fast exp "exploit" (your words not mine) was Sanctuary onslaught after launch, where you can get plenty of exp in two rounds, two god damn rounds without boost. With boost was even faster than that. (Got fixed in 1 or 2 days can't remeber), problem was that there mobs lvl/exp as not in sanctuary onslaught mode. And now new Arbitration mods (Don't know if there is still a thing or not). What basically you can do with them, you can brake a game or just make yourself a 9th kingdom undefeated boss, just that. You made a mistake we took it as advantage, should we all get banned for that, for making game fun to us after all these years, I don't think so. Now let's talk about macro. I never saw macro as a good thing, since most  people used it in old RS as afk farm, you just press one key and put auto on it boom done. So when it got implemented in warframe from the start I saw it as a bad thing and though that everyone was cheating back then, cuz I only knew macro for one thing afk part time. First time I hear about it was when secura lectra and credit farm was a thing, where instead of breaking your left hand's pinky, pointing and tumb, you just could spam one button to make deadly spin. So I never saw it as good thing. But since got bored last year or this year can't remember of gear wheel (time waster) I'm too starting using them, just for gear wheel, to make it spammable. So when I hear that you let 3 combo macros, I didn't believed, so I never used it , but know some people who use them daily. And now this Khora's 3rd + macro made her 3rd spammable was peoples fault. Yea they found the bug in the game where they made advantage of it and? Everytime people find smth, but somehow you just skipped videos on youtube, threads on forum and let it keep happening since fortuna's launch, why I'm saying launch? I'm pretty sure it already was in the game before any hotfix after fortuna, but people didn't found till recent. Gonna repeat myself again, I love DE, but DE you left typical bug "again" and you though that no one will found it, as always. I'm also not saying that they shouldn't be punished for "Warframe + macro combo", just of macro part I agree with you, it was too much game braking here, but still I don't agree that they should be banned for 17 years doe. Give them 1-4 weeks, cuz you still need to address people who where using it of not knowing the consequence or of curiosity. Cuz how I said word "exploit" instead of a "game bug" I only learned today, after all there bugs in the past I tried myself, so half of that banned crowd today might be also. Sometimes I'm thinking what would happen to me if someday I got banned and support won't help me, do I leave warframe for good? Do I fight till the end, till the last breath? Do I recreate new account and start over? Probably do fight till I lost interest or run out of counter attack. If that won't help probably would leave for good, just remembering all there years, pain, hard work, resources ($), pleasure I spent on this game (this would be my emotions from the start of playing till ban: happy,lazy,happy for new contend,banned = angry). Sometimes was fun as hell, sometimes I swear it pisses me off, then you start looking for word called "skip" that part. Or when you are veteran it's other story you just keep looking for new things to play with, cuz you in a state of laziness. So in summary ban real cheaters for 17 years and those who breaked your game with your leftovers after fortuna's launch for 1-4 weeks + reroll exp they gained back. Or think of smth else not so harsh as like comparing it with prison sentence.

I think I added everything I knew from this point forward or didn't wanted to address other things about the game. Most people might agree with me most might not, but you can have your way, I don't blame it. I just said what I wanted it might help some, some might not.

Till then, Happy Reading. 😉 Cius

You forgot Eris-Viver where you could basically farm resources almost forever just with banshee+mag+nekros etc and no massive bans so far afaik.

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7 hours ago, Lance_Lionroar said:

Still no fix for not being able to name our crafted K-Drives. Is gilding supposed to be a thing or not? People need to know how this will change so they can decide whether to craft more K-Drives or not. It's pretty lame that it's been this long, and the only way to get an insta forma and the ability to name your K-Drive is by paying for it with platinum.

Good thing I haven't looked into the K-drive scene at all yet.

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8 hours ago, M3JA said:

@[DE]Megan pls fix the challenge for caves on Fortuna. I found them all and it is still 25/30. Please fix it. Thank you.

26/30

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And I hate it 500% because of Steam Achievements date complete. I completed this 4 days after release.....

 

26 Is not even a cave is only a hole 10m empty nothing you can´t do there they are only rocks and "cave" is big hm 5 x 5 m thats all :crylaugh:

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13 minutes ago, nerfinator6 said:

Am I the only one who didn't realise this khora XP bug was a thing?

You are not alone in this.

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vor 5 Stunden schrieb Plaxed:

Examples: Please read this and come back later.
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Exploit
https://www.dbltap.com/posts/6099290-players-can-be-banned-for-abusing-fortnite-pickaxe-exploit - Yes, a pick axe.
https://www.wowhead.com/news=286747/blizzard-taking-action-against-world-quest-exploits - Yes, a World Quest plugin for the client.
https://play.esea.net/index.php?s=content&d=hnban - ESEA Xploits
https://wiki.teamfortress.com/wiki/Exploits

So dont waste your time trying to convince us to understand you fragile point of view. ITS A EXPLOIT and im glad those "smart" people get banned.

Why do you think that i consider it not an exploit? I am going to quote myself here from this very thread: 

"You couldnt have one without the other. The exploit required the use of forma."

"The setup required Forma and you cant look at the exploit without the setup required."

"Yes and the thing I want is for the people that used that exploid to not be perma banned because for the reasons i explained i think that would overshoot way to much. I am fine with a short suspension but perma ban is way too much."

"I edited my post to clarify: I dont want them to be banned permanently. A week or even a month long suspension is fine by me but perma ban is too much for a non harmful exploit."

"The exploit required the constant use of forma. Which is either a slow farm or buyable with plat. So the exploit is not just standing still and ranking up your arsenal in seconds."

As you can clearly see I agree that it is an exploit.

What I am saying is that a perma ban is not warranted. Instead a week long or month long ban far more justified since the exploit doesnt break the game economy (meaning either spend time or plat). Keep the perma bans for alt-account abusers and griefers and the likes.

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9 hours ago, Voltage said:

Thank you for the hotfix!

I am guessing this was the Khora affinity exploit advertised on YouTube. I have witnessed bugs/exploits/abuse shown by partners in the past, but I still wonder why they keep their affiliation badge. This seems very similar to a certain topic looming on Reddit regarding the behavior of affiliated players.

Well I know two affiliated players who have a history of incredibly toxic behavior(to which that behavior hasn't stopped) but they get a pass due to their popularity.

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Kindly fix this bug... Its obstructing my view at every imp locations!!!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gES0wm2S_dY

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Hmm, individuals found a bug and exploited it. Now they are getting suspended for it? Lets review what happened:

 

A. An exploit is found by a gaming community. The responsibility for said exploit lies with the developers.

B. They did not create the exploit/modify existing code. It can be performed by only using actions found in the game, no code injection/separate programs required.

C. The exploit is not harmful by any means.

D. Individuals are punished and held responsible for utilizing some faulty programming that, in reality, the development team should be accountable for.

 

That would be like someone giving you a [Zenith] but they get mad when you use the disc all the time and report you for it.

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9 часов назад, Iamthepancake сказал:

there was a bug that let you level up any equipment from level 0 to 30 in more or less a minute

Its called ESO. 

Seriuosly tho, why go through such hassle in 2018 I have no idea. Especially for a weapon that is infinitely easier to level. Neither do I understand punishment its like oh god we fckd up big time  and several players were able to FORMA! and level weapons quicker than they normally would. The horrrrrorrr! 

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