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As title says, I feel like it's wrong that my Kubrow is taking offense at me because he'd managed to die somehow. Moreover, he's dying very frequently and I can't help it. Further more, he's lowering his damage because of that.

Are those Kubrows not supposed to be combat pets? Maybe they are just house pets like a hamster or parrot?

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And try equipping him with survivability mods as well. Also, when he goes down just revive him, don't wait for teammates to do that, it's your pet not theirs.

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il y a 21 minutes, Ermiq a dit :

As title says, I feel like it's wrong that my Kubrow is taking offense at me because he'd managed to die somehow. Moreover, he's dying very frequently and I can't help it. Further more, he's lowering his damage because of that.

Are those Kubrows not supposed to be combat pets? Maybe they are just house pets like a hamster or parrot?

Go to farm mods on Cervantes on earth.

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33 minutes ago, Ermiq said:

Moreover, he's dying very frequently and I can't help it

Your Kubrow can feel your helplessness and is not pleased.

34 minutes ago, Ermiq said:

Are those Kubrows not supposed to be combat pets?

My Kubrow can murder level 100 enemies during sorties.

Kubrows, when modded correctly, are the most durable companions. Not like those puny ridiculous floating metal balls that explode whenever an enemy glances at them.

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vor 8 Minuten schrieb Dhrekr:

Not like those puny ridiculous floating metal balls that explode whenever an enemy glances at them.

This Comment harmed them enough that they died all 4 lifes with Primed Regen at once

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Strange. Pets are pretty durable.

What mods you use?

Have you not forgotten to give DNA stabilizers to it? It health drops every day for 5% if you do not.

Pets AI can be stupid. They may happily sit in the electrified water or Infested vomit. But you can always rez them? It will not get angry, if you do not abandon it to bleed out.

 

 

 

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2 минуты назад, Eisdschungel сказал:

This Comment harmed them enough that they died all 4 lifes with Primed Regen at once

“Statement: flamethrowers, toxin clowds and my master stupidity can break me, but words can not hurt me. 

Advice: shoot first. They can not operate that rocket launcher then they are dead, yes, yes.”

Helios Prime.

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52 минуты назад, TheRealShade сказал:

And try equipping him with survivability mods as well. Also, when he goes down just revive him, don't wait for teammates to do that, it's your pet not theirs.

Yeah, I always am trying to revive him, but still, at some missions he dies every 2 minutes (in toxic clowds, in electrified water, in heavy gunners and turrets bullet showers).

Once upon a time I've been at the boss assassination mission, and my Kubrow was dying every 10 seconds (it looked like the boss was killing him with one-two hits), Kubrow was standing under a ladder, and I was forced to sneaky walk down there slowly, getting punches from the boss and his friends while reviving my "combat companion", and then the boss just been killing him again and again. I just gave up. I mean, there're only 2 options: kill enemies or revive Kubrow.

36 минут назад, rand0mname сказал:

Strange. Pets are pretty durable.

What mods you use?

Have you not forgotten to give DNA stabilizers to it? It health drops every day for 5% if you do not.

Pets AI can be stupid. They may happily sit in the electrified water or Infested vomit. But you can always rez them? It will not get angry, if you do not abandon it to bleed out.

Shields link, and some other mods I've got from wild Kubrows. I'm a newbie solo player so I don't have much mods yet.

I'm aware of stabilizers, yes. I'm trying to keep DNA stability at 70% and higher (I need a lot of credits on other things and I don't have much credits, so I don't keep it on max).

Oh, yes, infested toxic things and electrified water are hell.

 

I don't know, maybe when I get prime mods and such, it will get better, but so far even with Oberon pets are just glass cannons. Stupid glass cannons, I would say.

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1 hour ago, Dhrekr said:

Not like those puny ridiculous floating metal balls that explode whenever an enemy glances at them.

You made me spit my soda out. This was so damn funny...mainly because it's true.

56 minutes ago, Eisdschungel said:

This Comment harmed them enough that they died all 4 lifes with Primed Regen at once

Also true. I'm in tears in real life from laughing at this.
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Kubrows & Kavats are actually extremely tough when modded properly. The Endo Investment in Link-Health, Link Shields, Link-Armor, & most importantly Medi-Pet Kit make them VERY hard to kill & easy to revive.
Additionally, this may sound crazy, but like in real life if your Dog or Cat (it can & does happen) is fighting alongside you....YOU need to fight alongside IT.
The AI in game isn't "amazing" but the Pets do tend to think for themselves somewhat like a real pet. So while you may want to call the shots, sometimes they will make their own judgement calls. When that happens you need to back them up like they back you up.

Whenever I see that my Kavat is having issues or might be overwhelmed I come to his aid. If he is downed I break the enemy lines & revive him. If I notice that he has hit his limit (frequent downs) I revive him then extract. Like if he was another player you can only push them so far. But once you've modded them enough they can go further than many players. (That hurts to type...)

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il y a 47 minutes, Ermiq a dit :

Yeah, I always am trying to revive him, but still, at some missions he dies every 2 minutes (in toxic clowds, in electrified water, in heavy gunners and turrets bullet showers).

Once upon a time I've been at the boss assassination mission, and my Kubrow was dying every 10 seconds (it looked like the boss was killing him with one-two hits), Kubrow was standing under a ladder, and I was forced to sneaky walk down there slowly, getting punches from the boss and his friends while reviving my "combat companion", and then the boss just been killing him again and again. I just gave up. I mean, there're only 2 options: kill enemies or revive Kubrow.

Shields link, and some other mods I've got from wild Kubrows. I'm a newbie solo player so I don't have much mods yet.

I'm aware of stabilizers, yes. I'm trying to keep DNA stability at 70% and higher (I need a lot of credits on other things and I don't have much credits, so I don't keep it on max).

Oh, yes, infested toxic things and electrified water are hell.

 

I don't know, maybe when I get prime mods and such, it will get better, but so far even with Oberon pets are just glass cannons. Stupid glass cannons, I would say.

A good pet is something like 6 forma.

Take off the link shield and put link life or link armour if you play a tanky frame.

Those mods drop from Cervantes in earth, a sabotage mission.

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I always take my cute fluffy smeeta with me on high levels. She has 6 formas and doesn't really die a lot in missions.

However, the main issues is that in order to mod her for the maximum protection, you would have to spend a lot of mod spaces on mods like link health, link shield etc, and this becomes an issue as compared to the flying piece of metal, their mod spaces are also needed for damage mods such as maul / bite etc

Perhaps we can have a different mod space (eg valkyr's talons, mesa's regulator etc) that is purely for damage mods? That way these pets would manage to keep up with harder contents as we can put all the protection mods on them and all the damage mods on their paws / claws

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I shouldn’t be surprised anymore by how often people let their pets bleed out. If you’re willing to take the time to build one, how hard could it be to run over and revive them? 

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Your Kubrow/Kavat's longevity is going to be tied to your frame/playstyle.

If you're a melee tank character a Kubrow benefits you more with a lifesteal and health and armor build. For Caster long range types a Kavat with shield link and health regen would suit you more. Etc.

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In fairness I would probably be a bit pissed too if I had to live my life in a never ending cycle of life, death, life, death with only the occasional head scratches to tied me over from the moment of life to the inevitable moment of my death again.

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hace 18 horas, Ermiq dijo:

As title says, I feel like it's wrong that my Kubrow is taking offense at me because he'd managed to die somehow. Moreover, he's dying very frequently and I can't help it. Further more, he's lowering his damage because of that.

Are those Kubrows not supposed to be combat pets? Maybe they are just house pets like a hamster or parrot?

at this point they are as usefull as house pets, and not even that because they dont fix the fur yet, and they look ugly

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Given most of the pet mods derive their stats from whats on your warframe, yes you can help it. If you run no defensive boosting mods your pet is going to be as flimsy as you are

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22 hours ago, Dhrekr said:

Your Kubrow can feel your helplessness and is not pleased.

My Kubrow can murder level 100 enemies during sorties.

Kubrows, when modded correctly, are the most durable companions. Not like those puny ridiculous floating metal balls that explode whenever an enemy glances at them.

Oi, don't insult my murder balloon!  It does the best it can!

But, yeah, Kunrows are insane little tanks, when modded,  potatoed, Forma'd and scratched in the right place. 

You'll get there OP.  I would suggest looking up Kubrow mods and where they drop on the wiki though. 

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https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Link_Armor - https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Link_Health - https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Loyal_Companion - https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Medi-Pet_Kit - https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Pack_Leader - Here are links to basic few good mods to look out for. I run almost all of them in every build, with the exception of either excluding Med-Pet Kit mod or Loyal Companion mod from the build sometimes. Those mods work especially well for tanky frames. Note that link-type mods take % value from your Warframes stats, which is why Warframes that have high HP and Armor are good choices for companions who will get high stats as well from proper modding. Soon there will be flat value mods that will be more useful for squishier Warframes as well.

But let me pass on a few example builds I have to showcase how to build:

Raksa Kubrow: https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Raksa_Kubrow
Howl: https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Howl
Protect: https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Protect
Animal Instinct: https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Animal_Instinct
Hunter Recovery: https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Hunter_Recovery
Pack Leader: https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Pack_Leader
Bite: https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Bite
Link Armor: https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Link_Armor
Link Health: https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Link_Health
Shelter: https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Shelter
Med-Pet Kit: https://warframe.fandom.com/wiki/Special:Search?query=Med-Pet+Kit

For stats comparison using Oberon with fully maxed out Vitality, Primed Vigor and Steel Fiber as well as all companion mods maxed out, the stats of the Kubrow are as follows:

Armor: 496
Critical Chance: 43,0%
Critical Multiplier: 9,6x
Health: 2 600
Shield: 310
Status: 5,0%
Slash: 304,0

Notes: The above Kubrow build is not build for Oberon specifically and in this comparison I have not used min-max build nor Oberon Prime. The Kubrows durability is helped trough the Med-Pet Kit passive health regeneration, as well as the stacking of Pack Leader and Hunter Recovery giving lifesteal from your Warframes melee to the Kubrow, as well as having a whopping 2 minutes and 30 seconds revive time, which is plenty of revive time for them. Additionally you might not want to have utility and life convenience mods like Animal Instinct or Shelter, or damage mods like Bite (I'd recommed other damage mods instead of it, or more than simply Bite), and yet with all these mods the Kubrow is extremely tough and does quite a bit of damage as well.

They can, albeit rarely, get stuck in environment hazards like Fortuna electrified water and there is not much you can do for them then. But that is more of a problem of outdated AI pathing algorithms and since then introduced environments rather than a durability issue of the companions in of themselves.

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On 2018-12-11 at 7:25 AM, Ermiq said:

As title says, I feel like it's wrong that my Kubrow is taking offense at me because he'd managed to die somehow. Moreover, he's dying very frequently and I can't help it. Further more, he's lowering his damage because of that.

Are those Kubrows not supposed to be combat pets? Maybe they are just house pets like a hamster or parrot?

How are they dying...on missions, or in your Lander?

If the former, thats normal...they are not great at soaking up punishment. If the latter...learn to look after your pets properly. Interact with them and give them DNA stabiliser shots every so often.

Nothing needs changing (except maybe buffs to make them better in combat)...looking after WF pets takes a lot less time and effort than looking after real ones.

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