What is Ember's role in Sortie or any high level mission?

[BornWithTeeth]

18 minutes ago, SinfulSpaceGoat said:

This frame seems divide to people pretty easily.

And even those who support and defend the frame admit to the very clear flaws she has.

Which begs the question.. it has been a year like this, is DE even going to acknowledge Ember needs another pass?

Nope.

Short, flawed answer: DE don’t like Ember.

 

Longer, more detailed answer: DE don’t know what to do with Ember. They don’t know what role they want her to fill, and they seem to regret World On Fire as an ability. For a long time, Ember was kinda designated as a low level map clear ‘frame, but DE’s design priorities shifted and the issue became that Ember was too good at that role, while DE seemed to decide that they didn’t want to encourage that kind of role anymore anyway. That means that Ember is kinda shafted. DE don’t want her to dominate low levels, but won’t give her the mechanical edge to work as well as the likes of Ash as a high level damage ‘frame.

 

A rework and buff to Heat damage would help her a lot.

[-Verikan-]

On 2018-12-12 at 4:23 AM, kgabor said:

Like others said, WoF still works just fine in fissures with Overextended.

As for high levels, the frame is usable as a buff support and for killing Infested trash mobs but it's not particularly good at anything.

Right now it's the kind of frame you pick for the lolz when you don't feel like picking anything else because it gives some bonus for fire damage for little effort, it's like current Ash but with fire damage.

Comparing Ash, a frame that can solo everything (except for Interveptions), can one shot enemies and strip armor while staying invinsible while doing damage to another part of the map by just shaking your mouse to the unscaling pain that is ember is a such a serious display of ignorance.

[kgabor]

29 minutes ago, -Verikan- said:

Comparing Ash, a frame that can solo everything (except for Interveptions), can one shot enemies and strip armor while staying invinsible while doing damage to another part of the map by just shaking your mouse to the unscaling pain that is ember is a such a serious display of ignorance.

And where do you need all that?

Many frames can strip armor and some can stay invis forever.

You can use high dps weapons or CL dagger with any frame that can open for finishers and it's just as easy.

Ash is rarely used because most of its niche is done better by other frames or frame-weapon combinations. (invis: Loki, Ivara  assassinations: Banshee.  Armor Strip: Saryn, but almost half of the frames can do that nowadays)

I referred to Ash's passive btw., which is a no input, but mediocre dps increase which is comparable to Ember's buffs as they fall off with armor making it mediocre to useless.

[(PSN)IndianChiefJeff]

Meanwhile, in the Saryn Cave, a call comes in from Commissioner Lotus!

Seriously, when they nerfed Ember, I never expected them to create a new monster, but Saryn takes the cake. Ember is just a light flicker of flame in comparison to the disease-ridden power of Saryn. It's like comparing the Black Death to the Great Chicago Fire, the amount of casualties differs, especially on higher levels.