AnnaCurser Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 Disclaimer - I took most of the numbers from Wiki. So if they are not correct or reflected in the game, that might be an update issue. Cost for Gems I took from my foundry directly Okay! Lets get started. I wanted to summerize what cost the both newst Frames Garuda and Baruuk. The Amount of Grind you had to do to get to them seemed too much for me, and so I was thinking about it, if there was some truth to it. So lets Compare! If you wanted to get Rhino You needed to go to Venus and get the Boss. He drops you the parts and you build the parts. Therefore you need: Gallium 800 Rubedo 1000 Ferrite 3 Morphics 150 Polymere Bundle 600 Plastids 500 Salvage 150 Alloy Plate 1 Control Module 70ooo Credits On the other side of the spectrum, Mesa was considered a frame that was very HARD to get. Because you need Keys for the boss, which take an hour to craft each. If you had all the parts of Mesa, your Mesa would cost: 1 Orokin Cell 800 Plastids 2600 Nano Spores 650 Polymere Bundle 50 Oxium 2 Neural Sensors 1500 Alloy Plate 1 Morphics 1 Argon Crystal 500 Circuits 70ooo Credits Addintionally to the parts, you would get cost of the Keys you need to craft. Which is each: 20ooo Credits 2500 Nano Spores 750 Ferrite 6 Nav Coordinates 1 Mutalist Nav Coordinate Technically you need 3 parts so you'd at least take 3 Hours to Build the Keys alone. 10 runs is more realistically, which then would make your key craft time to around 10 hours. Garuda is special in that regard, because she is tied tightly with the Syndicate. Her Parts cost, technically: 70ooo Credits 3500 Kuva 5ooo Nano Spores 2200 Alloy Plate 2400 Polymere 2 Vega Toroids 2 Calda Toroids 2 Sola Toroids 40 Axidrol Alloy 40 Travocyte Alloy 40 Venerdo Alloy 6 Star Amarast 3 Radiant Zodian 3 Marquise Thyst But, because theres so many Gems in there, you need Standing and Ranks in the Syndicate to get them. The highest Gem to craft here is the Thyst, which is on Rank Cove in Solaris. So we have to add to Garudas cost: 5ooo Standing and 10ooo credits and 13 Training Debt-Bonds to Outworlder 22ooo Standing and 25ooo credits and 12 Training Debt-Bonds and 15 Shelter Debt-Bonds to Rapscallion 44ooo Standing and 50ooo credits and 10 Training Debt-Bonds and 15 Shelter Debt-Bonds and 13 Medical Debt-Bonds to Doer 70ooo Standing and 100ooo credits and 12 Shelter Debt-Bonds and 10 Medical Debt-Bonds and 13 Advanced Debt-Bonds to Cove That adds 144ooo Standing, 185 Credits, 35 Training Debt-Bonds, 42 Shelter Debt-Bonds, 23 Medical Debt-Bonds and 13 Advanced Debt-Bonds. to our Cost for Garuda The Gems itself also cost things. So we add: 1ooo for (20) Axidrol Alloy 1000 credits, 20 Axidite, 100 Rubedo, 500 Ferrite 1ooo for T(20) ravocyte Alloy 1ooo Credits, 20 Travoride, 100 Plastids, 500 Salvage 2ooo for(20) Venerdo Alloy 1000 Credits, 20 Venerol, 2 Gallium, 300 Rubedo 4ooo for (6) Star Amarast 5ooo Credits, 6 Amarast 8ooo for (3) Radiant Zodian 10ooo Credits, 3 Zodian 12ooo for (3) Marquise Thyst 10ooo Credits, 3 Thyst Those Alloys come in Packs of 20, but Garuda needs 40 of each. So we double those Alloy costs. All Gems combined then come to: 31ooo Credits, 800 Rubedo, 200 Plastids, 1000 Ferrite and 1000 Salvage and because you need to buy the Blueprints first, they also cost 28ooo Standing. Which Concludes. Garuda Costs (dropping all the materials!) Alone in Credits and Standing: 172ooo Standing and 286ooo Credits. On a Daily Cap of assumed 20ooo Standing a day (which is around the Mastery Rank 20) that makes 8.6, so technically around 8 to 9 Days for Standing Farm. Which makes it physically impossible to get Garuda within a week if you start the Syndicate by 0 and still play everyday. And then theres Baruuk. If you had all his parts already, they'd cost: 70ooo credits 1 Orokin Cell 3 Vega Toroids 6 Calda Toroids 5 Radiant Zodian 5 Marquise Thyst 5 Ecosynth Analyzer 10 Entroplasma 150 Hespazym Alloy 2500 Ferrite 2850 Alloy Plate 3250 Salvage 20ooo Standing (just to buy his parts) And then there's his Gems: 4ooo Standing for (20) Hespazym Alloy 1000 Credits, 20 Hesperon, 300 Plastids, 2 Morphics 8ooo for (3) Radiant Zodian 10ooo Credits, 3 Zodian 12ooo for (3) Marquise Thyst 10ooo Credits, 3 Thyst Now, Baruuk needs 150 Hespazym Alloy, which come in a pack of 20. You need to craft 8 of those to get it. So we do the math. Which then brings us to a Gemcost of 24ooo Standing for Blueprints and 28ooo Credits plus 160 Hesperon, 2400 Plastids and 16 Morphics. And Of Course, Baruuk needs the Syndicate to be ranked, so we add his Ranking cost to the Cost of Barruuk: Which are: 5ooo Standing and 10ooo credits and 13 Training Debt-Bonds to Outworlder 22ooo Standing and 25ooo credits and 12 Training Debt-Bonds and 15 Shelter Debt-Bonds to Rapscallion 44ooo Standing and 50ooo credits and 10 Training Debt-Bonds and 15 Shelter Debt-Bonds and 13 Medical Debt-Bonds to Doer 70ooo Standing and 100ooo credits and 12 Shelter Debt-Bonds and 10 Medical Debt-Bonds and 13 Advanced Debt-Bonds to Cove 99ooo Standing and 200ooo credits and 12 Medical Debt-Bonds and 12 Advanced Debt-Bonds and 10 Familial Debt-Bonds to Old Mate Overall 35 Training Debt-Bonds 42 Shelter Debt-Bonds 35 Medical Debt-Bonds 25 Advances Debt-Bonds 10 Familial Debt-Bonds240ooo Standing 385ooo Credits To get Solaris United to Max, so you can start getting Standing for Vox Solaris. Yippie! And then for Vox: 5000 Standing, 50ooo Credits, 2 Calda Toroids, 2 Vega Toroids, 2 Sola Torids To Operative 22ooo Standing, 100ooo Credits, 15 Gyromag Systems, 10 Vega Toroids To Agent So 27ooo Standing and 150ooo Credits added to the Cost. with 1ooo standing a mission. makes it come down to at least (27 for the rank. 20 for his parts) 47 missions. and a standing cap of 20ooo a day, would make it last for at least 2 - 3 days of pure Standing Farming. Which concludes Baruuks cost to311ooo Standing and 633ooo Credits Not to imagine what it cost if you were to buy all those Dept Bonds from Ticker. 10 Medical for 300ooo or so. It goes into the millions probably. And yet still, Credits and Standing aren't the bad part of Farming Baruuk. Getting Toroids is a lot slower than 10 Days of Grinding Standing. So much from me. I hope you enjoyed this little piece of mine. See you in Fortuna, Ill wait in the elevator. DFC 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnarlsDarkley Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 (edited) 18 minutes ago, DavidCurser said: But, because theres so many Gems in there, you need Standing and Ranks in the Syndicate to get them. The highest Gem to craft here is the Thyst, which is on Rank Cove in Solaris. You can trade them. So Garuda is absolutely fine imo. Baruuk on the other I sign your post. 18 minutes ago, DavidCurser said: 22ooo Standing, 100ooo Credits, 15 Gyromag Systems, 10 Vega Toroids To Agent You forgot a Rank. You need Old Mate on SU and what is more important you need to have pure rng to get the Systems to Rank Up. I failed to get the required 10 Atmo Systems for a week, which locked me out of Vox Solaris Edited December 27, 2018 by GnarlsDarkley Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnnaCurser Posted December 27, 2018 Author Share Posted December 27, 2018 (edited) You can trade Gems but not Alloys. And no. I didnt forget it. You didnt see it. Edited December 27, 2018 by DavidCurser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GnarlsDarkley Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, DavidCurser said: I did not. I wrote that above it All of Baruuk's blueprints can only be acquired by purchasing from Little Duck, using Vox Solaris standing. The main blueprint requires players to be at Agent rank, while component blueprints require Hand rank 28 minutes ago, DavidCurser said: And then for Vox: 5000 Standing, 50ooo Credits, 2 Calda Toroids, 2 Vega Toroids, 2 Sola Torids To Operative 22ooo Standing, 100ooo Credits, 15 Gyromag Systems, 10 Vega Toroids To Agent Again: you forgot one Rank 😉 The Hand Rank requires 10 Atmo Systems which refused to drop before I had done 300 Bounties only to get Baruuk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnlstorm Posted December 27, 2018 Share Posted December 27, 2018 That is why before fortuna start i already start to farm after fortuna released i spend 1 weeks farming/maxing my Standing and hunt for gems/fishing resource these stuff i spend nearly 2 weeks.. When fortuna part 2 released i had all the resource that can spend a long time.. Like gem itself i got over thousand . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnnaCurser Posted December 27, 2018 Author Share Posted December 27, 2018 12 minutes ago, GnarlsDarkley said: All of Baruuk's blueprints can only be acquired by purchasing from Little Duck, using Vox Solaris standing. The main blueprint requires players to be at Agent rank, while component blueprints require Hand rank ah okay. i thought you meant, i forgot the Solaris Rank. Thanks. I didnt see that parts and BP are on 2 ranks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AnnaCurser Posted December 27, 2018 Author Share Posted December 27, 2018 If now one rank is added to the list, the point of this is the same. Baruuk is way to expensive and it takes way too long to get to him. I hope DE doesnt make more Syndicate Frames, becuase this practise is nuts beyond. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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