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Quick suggestion: Create an in-game mini-game card game in Warframe

1. Similar to Triple Triad in Final Fantasy 8 or Caravan in Fallout : New Vegas

2. Players can challenge each other in Dojo or Relay.

3. Players can bet a very modest/token sum of 0 to 10000 credits

4. Card acquisition can be from market, crafting or loot. Up to developers.

Pro:

1. Social mini-game that is solely missing in Warframe

2. Relatively low effort to create and give players something to do in-between huge updates.

3. Better pvp than concave 😀

4. Enjoyable time-waster for veterans who have EVERYTHING

5. No impact to main gameplay. Can be ignored if that is not your thing. Similar to the Frame Fighter, Happy Zephyr, and Wyrmius but actually more interesting due to social aspects.

6. Potentially playable on the Warframe mobile app?

 

 

 

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2 minutes ago, (XB1)GearsMatrix301 said:

Ever hear of Frame fighter? No? How about Lunaro? Yeah didn’t think so.

Just like those another mini game would just be an unfortunate waste of development time.

If as engaging as Triple Triad in Final Fantasy 8 or Caravan in Fallout : New Vegas I will play.

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3 hours ago, (XB1)GearsMatrix301 said:

Ever hear of Frame fighter? No? How about Lunaro? Yeah didn’t think so.

Just like those another mini game would just be an unfortunate waste of development time.

Perhaps Frame Fighter would actually get played if it wasn't a poorly balanced empty shell of what could be a fighting game, and Lunaro, like Conclave is too competitive and poorly explained to those not already familiar with them. I think a casual-friendly social minigame has a chance as long as DE doesn't make it with the same philosophy as Frame Fighter

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Actually a well made card game is the best way possible to expand your universe with little to no cost. It is simple to make: almost no 3d models, no 3d animation, just background, a few nice pictures for cards and some effects. But at the same time it can contain a ton of lore in a form of cards descriptions and such.

The only thing I'd like to mention is do not make it inside main game. That is not what card games are for. It should be a totally separate product with it's own economy and what's more important it's own dev team.

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10 minutes ago, ant99999 said:

Actually a well made card game is the best way possible to expand your universe with little to no cost. It is simple to make: almost no 3d models, no 3d animation, just background, a few nice pictures for cards and some effects. But at the same time it can contain a ton of lore in a form of cards descriptions and such.

The only thing I'd like to mention is do not make it inside main game. That is not what card games are for. It should be a totally separate product with it's own economy and what's more important it's own dev team.

Not asking for a full product spin-off.

Just a social mini-game that fellow tendos can play against each other and be more ... social.

Things that MMOs tend to want to encourage.

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30 minutes ago, (XB1)GearsMatrix301 said:

But would other people?

Yes.

What do you do in your dojo except to trade? Nothing, most likely for most players.

How about a game of cards instead? I believe a lot of Tendos would be interested.

 

 

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11 minutes ago, wtflag said:

What do you do in your dojo except to trade? Nothing, most likely for most players.

... that's why my dojo is mostly empty. We don't hang around wondering whether there could be some activity that justifies our spending time there. We do something else.

In general, all of these ideas for minigames are flawed because people log into Warframe because they want to play Warframe. These minigames are small novelties that attract mild attention for a couple of days and then are forgotten forever.

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32 minutes ago, Dhrekr said:

people log into Warframe because they want to play Warframe.

Some people build communities and close relationships with their clan and can log in to spend time with them, and playing minigames within warframe is technically still playing warframe.

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1 hour ago, wtflag said:

Not asking for a full product spin-off.

Just a social mini-game that fellow tendos can play against each other and be more ... social.

Things that MMOs tend to want to encourage.

 

1 hour ago, wtflag said:

Yes.

What do you do in your dojo except to trade? Nothing, most likely for most players.

How about a game of cards instead? I believe a lot of Tendos would be interested.

 

 

You believe? Have you actually conducted any research? Done any polls?

Thats a major problem with this forum...lots people have ideas they like, but that in reality few other players are actually interested in.

 

In a fast-moving space ninja game, I seriously doubt many people would want to spend time playing a card game. If players don't go for things like Lunaro, Conclave, Frame Fighter, I don't see them being very enthusiastic about your idea.

If you wanna socialise, get on Teamspeak or Discord with some buddies and play some missions.

 

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I personally would like to have more minigames in game and this card game idea sounds fair. If someone remember the systemshock 2 and their minigames then you probably know what I mean. That kind of minigames would be nice to have and if you not wish to play you can skip it and those who wants they can.

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10 minutes ago, FlusteredFerret said:

 

You believe? Have you actually conducted any research? Done any polls?

Thats a major problem with this forum...lots people have ideas they like, but that in reality few other players are actually interested in.

 

In a fast-moving space ninja game, I seriously doubt many people would want to spend time playing a card game. If players don't go for things like Lunaro, Conclave, Frame Fighter, I don't see them being very enthusiastic about your idea.

If you wanna socialise, get on Teamspeak or Discord with some buddies and play some missions.

 

Honestly the Lunaro and conclave are not so popular because the server issues and the peer to peer is not really good for pvp. I myself not tried the frame fighter yet but that is a mortal kombat like mini game. 

Socialization is in other hand a different thing but the dojos and relays supposed to be and if they add some mini casino or other fun like stuff then it would be popular to go there. There need some minor but interesting rewards, chance to win some credit and a lot more peoples would like to go there and not just for the syndicates/simaris (relay) and research/trading (dojo).

 

Card games also not a too difficult to implement and we already have mods which could be used as a card packett. The only thing what I see as disadvantage there is no really summon cards or warframe cards only ability boost cards but despite that they could implement it.

 

How many people would like to play it is a different thing because the vast majority never touch the forum and in game they can only get information about the hotfixes. The radio would be a nice addition on the ship and orbiter to share news like these. Tournaments, most popular tenno, most played missions and the alerts also would be nice if they announced there. Lotus is cool and nice but personally would like to have some uses of the radio on Orbiter/Ship.

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47 minutes ago, AXCrusnik said:

Some people build communities and close relationships with their clan and can log in to spend time with them, and playing minigames within warframe is technically still playing warframe.

So is playing Lunaro. Look at how many people are doing that.

I mean, I am in a very social clan. We are more likely to meet IRL for a barbecue than to play a Warframe minigame together.

 

Fun fact: I wanted to give FrameFighter a chance. I could never find a single match. Not one. So I gave up after two hours, and I now am reminded of that useless minigame only when, by accident, I stumbled on the Ludoplex (or whatever the name is) and ponder whether I should remove it in order to make space for a bird plushie.

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4 minutes ago, Dhrekr said:

So is playing Lunaro. Look at how many people are doing that.

I mean, I am in a very social clan. We are more likely to meet IRL for a barbecue than to play a Warframe minigame together.

 

Fun fact: I wanted to give FrameFighter a chance. I could never find a single match. Not one. So I gave up after two hours, and I now am reminded of that useless minigame only when, by accident, I stumbled on the Ludoplex (or whatever the name is) and ponder whether I should remove it in order to make space for a bird plushie.

Refer to my first post in this thread for my thoughts on Frame Fighter and Lunaro's playerbase. And just because your clan is that way doesn't mean they all are.

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I personally don't want a card game in warframe due to the potential wall of cosmetics and stuff would be locked behind it and you'd feel like you have to play it just to get it. I'm sad already about conclaive having a lot of nice skins for weapons which i will never get cause i don't like PVP. I suck at PVP.

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6 hours ago, (XB1)GearsMatrix301 said:

But would other people?

Triple Triad and the Gold Saucer in FFXIV both appear to be still be successful.

There's a lot of viable space in the Relays (or in relay's that haven't been added yet) that could see this fit into it without too much issue.

...Think Quark's from DS9.

12 minutes ago, Lancars said:

I personally don't want a card game in warframe due to the potential wall of cosmetics and stuff would be locked behind it and you'd feel like you have to play it just to get it. I'm sad already about conclaive having a lot of nice skins for weapons which i will never get cause i don't like PVP. I suck at PVP.

Yeah, they hid some really nice items behind a fairly unpleasant pvp wall— and that's coming from someone who still likes pvp, provided it isn't open world.

If card, or casino, style games in WF did the same thing I don't think I'd be interested in having it introduced either.

There are ways to balance the two out by making some of the games be like slot machines or crane games though.

The big challenge for DE would be avoiding the "whammy prize" mentality they lean toward so much with rng prizes.

No bad prizes...Just different levels of nice prizes.  

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@Padre_Akais With fashion frame being a thing i know people want exclusive hard to get stuff to stand out but at the same time DE should avoid having to much stuff that new players won't have access to.

For pvp i want had really wanted that strun skin cause i use the wraith version and before you couldn't color it. I felt crappy cause i knew i'd never get it and i couldn't really sync will with the strun since i couldn't color it. Now that i can color it i feel less inclined to hunt the skin.

They should also stay away from anything that really feels like gambling rng like slot machines. Even if its credits only with credits outcome that could still get people hooked.

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5 hours ago, FlusteredFerret said:

 

You believe? Have you actually conducted any research? Done any polls?

Thats a major problem with this forum...lots people have ideas they like, but that in reality few other players are actually interested in.

 

In a fast-moving space ninja game, I seriously doubt many people would want to spend time playing a card game. If players don't go for things like Lunaro, Conclave, Frame Fighter, I don't see them being very enthusiastic about your idea.

If you wanna socialise, get on Teamspeak or Discord with some buddies and play some missions.

 

You doubt? You don’t know but haven’t done any polls on your end? Don’t be a hypocrite.

I would play this if like a former poster said, we still had access to trade/recruit chats.

I would love to sit in the dojo with a game of cards going or chess or whatever, be able to step away to make a trade or add a new clan member, and come back to playing with a mate.

I would also reallly love to see more arcade like mini games. Throw some ski ball or shoot hoops while working trade chat, or a claw machine that we could dump loot into for other clan members to play for. We could adjust the resource cost to play to be something we need donated like pigments or whatever, then I would drop plat, forms and reactors/catalyst in the claw to give them incentive to play. Not to mention a claw is the ideal arcade decor.

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6 hours ago, Serafinia said:

Honestly the Lunaro and conclave are not so popular because the server issues and the peer to peer is not really good for pvp. I myself not tried the frame fighter yet but that is a mortal kombat like mini game. 

Socialization is in other hand a different thing but the dojos and relays supposed to be and if they add some mini casino or other fun like stuff then it would be popular to go there. There need some minor but interesting rewards, chance to win some credit and a lot more peoples would like to go there and not just for the syndicates/simaris (relay) and research/trading (dojo).

 

Card games also not a too difficult to implement and we already have mods which could be used as a card packett. The only thing what I see as disadvantage there is no really summon cards or warframe cards only ability boost cards but despite that they could implement it.

 

How many people would like to play it is a different thing because the vast majority never touch the forum and in game they can only get information about the hotfixes. The radio would be a nice addition on the ship and orbiter to share news like these. Tournaments, most popular tenno, most played missions and the alerts also would be nice if they announced there. Lotus is cool and nice but personally would like to have some uses of the radio on Orbiter/Ship.

I like these ideas - very outside-the-box.

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